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2022-03-24 08:06:59
Re Unsatisfactory Irish Grid to Lat/Long

if you click Extra Detail for a summit, MV will give information such as this:
Longitude: -8.085518, Latitude: 52.624451 , Easting: 194259, Northing: 152539 Prominence: 158m, Isolation: 1.6km, Has trig pillar
ITM: 594209 652583

Note: instead of Lat/Long MV like many other websites uses Lon/Lat. Reason? To keep the form consistent between grid refs which always easting/northing with earth centred lon and lat.
2022-03-23 23:03:59
Unsatisfactory Irish Grid to Lat/Long coordin
Wishing to locate in Google Earth (input latitude, longitude) some of the Arderins, located on Irish Grid by MV (thanks for the spelling Simon!), I downloaded GridInquest2, claimed to be a co-ordinate converter, from the OSI website. It is an extremely unsatisfactory co-ordinate converter - any Irish Grid points in Northern Ireland that are not close to the Border are given 0 latitude and 0 longitude, or "Coordinate outside Transformation...", depending on whether interactive or text file mode. So this software ignores maybe a quarter of the island of Ireland. What a waste of time and space.
2022-03-19 09:29:51
Height errors on Irish summits in German BKG
As I indicated, it appears to be a messier problem than which ellipsoid - more like somebody spilled a bottle of digital ink over the file. Have a look at Sliabh Bán (Slievebaun. Slievebawn to taste) in Blackstairs: 525 according to MV, 496 m according to BKG, so -29 m, but about 1 km north Blackstairs itself is 732 by MV; 787 by BKG, so +55. On the other hand Djouce agrees within a metre by both BKG and MV, A very pimply ellipsoid indeed would be needed to reconcile those discepancies
2022-03-19 07:21:12
Re BKG summit heights.
Yes indeed this map does indeed seem to have errors.
I found the BKG map at if anyone wants to look.
And with a quick check for one summit, Mullacor, which we measured at 660.7m their height was 706. Their height is 45.3 high which confirms there is at least one error.
BKG are using Open Street Map and most of the heights for this data set for Irish summits were set to WGS 84 ellipsoid heights, not height above sea level.
However a MV volunteer has corrected many of these to use the above sea level values that MV has. Other map makers in Ireland such as OSI also use above sea level. Many of these have come from MV's own measurements using a surveying GPS (accurate to .1m).
It would appear that BKG have not refreshed their rendering of OSM data recently. MV uses another map layer based on OSM called OpenTopoMap. Generally they correct their online map within around 3 weeks of our corrections.
Thanks for describing this Bobbio1969.
Incidentally it's spelt "Arderins"
2022-03-18 22:35:57
Height errors on Irish summits in German BKG
I have recently discovered that the Bundesamt fuer Kartographie und Geodaesie (BKG) has published a topo map that has erroneous heights for nearly all the Ardeerin summits in Wicklow, Dublin and Wexford; this has been confirmed by BKG themselves, after an original snooty response. I raised the issue with BKG at the beginning of March, but the map is still online - I suppose they can't just pull it without inconveniencing a lot of users. I have no idea if this is just a localised problem - I have looked only at those Ardeerins in my local region.

Most of the errors add typically about 46 to 53 m to the accepted heights, but some heights are almost correct, and there are a few summits that actually get shrunk; so it's not a simple matter of a blanket addition, or a quibble over the geoid in use.

I came across this rather astonishing situation while using PhotoEphemeris, a program to figure out the bearings of sunrise, sunset etc. for photographers: this program just happens to overlay its computed bearings on a topo map provided (presumably free) by BKG.

I hope to hear eventually from BKG just how they screwed up, but in the meantime do not rely on BKG's topo map!
2022-03-14 16:53:09
Chalky RIP
Sorry to learn that Chalky, Ken Whyte, has departed this world and at a relatively young age. RIP.
Especially sorry to learn that he had been dealing with a serious health issue for a considerable time before his death.
His peak bagging record is simply amazing see
2022-03-11 08:09:47
Sad death of chalky (Ken Whyte)
We are sad to tell you that Ken Whyte, known as chalky on this website has died from natural causes.

Alan Dawson of the "Pedantic" baggers group on Google said:

Many of you will know Ken Whyte, and most of you will know of him and his remarkable activities in the hills.

I am sorry to have to report that Ken died on Monday. He had been having treatment for a brain tumour for over a year but even so it was unexpected. His wife Gladys has been in touch to say that he died suddenly due to bleeding in the brain following a fall.

Rob Woodall of the same group said:

Ken's bagging record is extraordinary - pretty much everything over 500m in Scotland and over P100m in Ireland, his many Island and Region completions etc etc, often bicycle-powered.

RIP Ken, Condolences to Gladys

For myself, can I say that Ken was in fact top of the overall Summiteers Hall of Records for combined Britain + Ireland with 7803 summits logged. 1203 of these were logged in Ireland.

I didn;t know him personally but we will miss his support of the website which included many comments as well as logging. Condolences to all that loved him..

To see the scale of this achievement it is worth comparing with a leading Irish based summiteer, FergalH who has visited 1487 in Ireland and 3250 in the combined B+I list.
2022-02-12 15:34:22
"Bridges over Blessington Lakes" from march-fixer Contract pics
Picture: Bridges over Blessington Lakes (Contract pics)

Traffic Lights!
Access from Blessington to the east Wicklow mountain area is going to change drastically!

Wicklow Co. Co. has made an executive decision without any local consultation to lodge a planning application to make the three main bridges over Blessington Lakes into single lane bridges with traffic lights at both ends to control access. Total nuts in my humble opinion.

This is their solution to their dilemma with the Blessington Lakes Greenway which will require access for walkers, wheelchairs and bicycles. The three current bridges are about 80 years old and not wide enough to accommodate two lanes of motor traffic while also accommodating a pathway wide enough for the non-motor traffic use!

Traffic flow over these bridges is poor even at low peak times, so just imagine what it would be like on a busy summer weekend. A survey was carried out in May 2021 in the middle of the pandemic lock-down, as far as I am aware, which naturally shows low traffic volume!

As this situation affects everyone's access to the West Wicklow hills and Glendalough area from the the west I would like to see what MV members think of this situation, and possibly lodge objections with the Planning Authority? We have only until March 5th before the Planning Authority makes a decision.
2022-02-08 18:18:57
"" from Onzy Contract pics
Picture: (Contract pics)

2021 List Completions
Here is the interim list of completions for 2021. As usual this extends slightly into 2022! If you have completed a list and feel you should be in line for a 2021 award, please let me know

As we were unable to hold a Gathering in 2021, we are hoping to present both 2020 and 2021 awards at a Gathering this year - date and venue to be advised - watch this space!
2022-01-20 09:42:04
There's close, and there's too close
Thanks for that information about the stag that gored the ESB worker, bunsen7. It was an extremely serious incident. North Tipperary is not an area I would associate with deer, but once they come into an area they can breed quite fast. I wonder are deer often seen in this area nowadays? But for his rucksack, it sounds like the guy could have had much worse injuries. I hope he has made a full recovery. I wonder if the first group of deer he saw were females. If he had accidentally walked between them and the dominant stag, that would certainly explain the stag's behaviour, as it may have treated him the same as another male deer trying to separate it from its harem. Deer are dangerously aggressive for the couple of months from mid-September to early November. Their hormones literally drive them wild.

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Croaghbarnes: Central Bluestack Carn
eamonoc 11 hours ago.
Climbed as first of three Carns in the heart of the Bluestack Mts, approach from minor road at Northern end ofLough Eske

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Sturrall: Great ridge scramble
Sweeney a day ago.
Headed out to climb the Sturral from Port to the west. Scrambled directly along the ridge, and then turned around at the last steep few metres to the top, as it involved 1 committing climbing...

Summit Summary
Sturrall: Prominent Headland with alpine style ridge
Collaborative entry Last edit by: Sweeney a day ago.
The Sturral is a little known, but striking headland on the west coast of Donegal. To gain the summit requires walking on exposed steep terrain, with a scrambling route then back towards eith...

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Rinvyle Point: Easy stroll to the point
Fergalh 3 days ago.
Parked at 657638 Underneath Rinvyle Castle beside the beach. Followed track through two gates until 650641 than turn North west to the point. From here if the tide is out it is a short walk t...

A'Mhaighdean, Ruadh Stac Mór and Beinn Tarsuinn
billbaggins 2 days ago.
A’Mhaighdean and Ruadh Stac Mór are two of the more remote Munros. Their summits provide some of the best views in Sc... walk, Len: 39.5km, Climb: 1748m, Area: Loch Maree to Loch Broom (Britain) A\'||

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Rossroe Island: Short stroll from mainland
Fergalh 4 days ago.
Parked at 932273 and strolled over bridge to island. Turned right and at 931273 walked up a green lane past a orange house until i reached a T junction. Here i turned right and than crossed w...

Cullentragh and Derrybawn
simon3 5 days ago.
This route takes a somewhat different route to find it's way to the Derrybawn ridge. walk, Len: 16.4km, Climb: 670m, Area: Cullentragh Mountain, Wicklow (Ireland) C...

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Cloghercor South: Worth a visit if passing
eamonoc 4 days ago.
Direct route up and down from R250, plenty of parking atG86210 99124, cross road to farm gate and onto open hillside for boggy trek to summit

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Glengesh Hill: A boogy round trip
eamonoc 4 days ago.
Done as part of a round trip from Glengesh gap, over Croaghavehy.

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Fossy Mountain: Access update point B
moggy40 a week ago.
The gate at point B now has a lock on it, so driving is out. Bike or walk is still an option

If you like your Binnions served wet
eamonoc 5 days ago.
Started this walk from Carpark at Glengesh Gap, from the start the ground was very wet and boggy and continued so ov... walk, Len: 9.0km, Climb: 463m, Area: Cruach an Bheithe, Donegal SW (Ireland) ||

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Errigal: Reflection
mcrtchly a week ago.
Errigal rises majestically above the uncharacteristically calm Dunlewey Lough beckoning us to climb its snow covered summit the next day

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