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simon3
2017-12-22 16:48:25
Re A few questions from a newbie
James --
At a guess I would say just to do the VLs around 80 - 90 days. I am not aware of anyone doing the VLs on consecutive days.
Simon Byrne (simoburn) did the VLs + Arderins in 101 days walking (not consecutive days however) and shared the entire campaign as 101 gps tracks, all up on the website for anyone to view to find routes.
Based on his experience I'd say to put up a good time you'd want to be prepared for 3000m+ 30k days.
The Community=>Summiteers Hall of Fame list is configurable. You can select which columns you want by clicking on "List Options Show" which allows you to pick which lists such as the Vandeleur-Lynams you want to view.
The VLs are definitely considered a list in their own right. 13 people have done it (or earlier versions before a particular summit was found recently). MountainViews issues certs for list finishers at an annual ceremony held in February.
David-Guenot
2017-12-22 16:28:06
New video
Thought I'd share the link to my latest video, filmed in the Pyrenees in October.
https://youtu.be/BfFBH3PVIkM
jamesmforrest
2017-12-22 15:43:38
A few (geeky) questions from a newbie
Hi All,

I'm new to this site, so just getting my head around it all. I live in the Lake District and recently completed all 2,000fters in England and Wales (the “Nuttalls”). I'm hoping to come over to Ireland next year (if I can get a few months off work) to enjoy climbing the 2,000fters in Ireland, hopefully using the VL list. I was wondering:
- any ideas on how many days it would take to walk all of them (as a non-stop, single-round)?
- has anyone ever done a non-stop, single-round of the VLs before?
- is there a record for the fastest completion?
I noticed on the Summiteers Hall of Fame that the VLs don't seem to be detailed as a column in their own right. The VLs and Arderins are included together; or there is a separate list of "Irish 600m up” but this has 288 summits (not the 273 of the VLs). Is there a reason for this?
Also, if I just did the VLs is that considered a comprehensive list in its own right, or only if combined with the Arderins?
Many thanks for your help – much appreciated
Cheers
James
BleckCra
2017-12-21 12:24:30
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Shan Slieve Views Welcome
Shan Slieve receives no mention in mountainviews; if weighed in mountainviews' tokens, she wouldn't fill one of its canvas espadrilles.
Still, there is beauty to behold.
Firstly Shan Slieve isn't or at least barely is a top. Effectively she is Slieve Commedagh on your way home.
In bad vis though she can upset your beer plans by half an hour.
That written and if you can deal with some small, damp, dodgy cliffs, you will find yourself in places no one has been or has ever had any call to be, until you - yes you - are there.
During a dour and rushy descent it will dawn on you that you have fallen into a reverie that you will blame on boredom.
And that's how Shan Slieve gets you: she catches you off guard. In one blissful and baffling moment you discover you have stumbled on stage, the tea boy in front of a full house of snoozing vistas.
Deny yourself the standard descent off Slievenavaddy (hill of the dog, although probably abbreviated from hill of the red dog ie the fox - madra rua) and come off into Tullybrannigan (Brannigan's floodplain) by Hill of the Badger, Slievenabrock.
Behind you, the hill is pockmarked with silent springs sprouting Holy hollow hallowed holly. In front, the impenetrable head high rushes of the Tullybrannigan River. On the Northern horizon, Slieve Croob (Sliabh Craobh - branch/bough hill) distant, detached like a bold child sent to stand in the corner. Beneath you the silver sweep of Dundrum Bay to St John's Point.
Shan Slieve. Old Hill. Why not try it for a new view.
BleckCra
2017-12-07 22:14:13
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Enjoy your trip
The first flurry of snow here in Armagh. A biting wind. Antenna whiskers taste the chill air and the prospect of picture postcard winter days. In no time at all, the Cairngorm Mountain Rescue will be airlifting some foundered ingenu off Cairn Toul.
There is something about the word "accident" that draws people, like fools into a damp gully in March.
If you are driving your children to school in a small car and a man coming the opposite way in a Volvo estate becomes ill and runs into you, busting up your leg bad enough that you will never work again, as happened to a colleague of mine, that is an accident.
If a man falls off Howling Ridge, the cliffs of Belbulben or off the face of Ben Crom ..... well ...., to be discussed.
I have never killed myself on a mountain (that I know of) nota bene the phraseology - "killed myself"- my phraseology although perhaps not yours, but in the hills, solo, I take all responsibility for living or dying on my own shoulders. There is no complicated kit to go wrong and blame, there is no unconscious man in a Volvo estate hurtling towards me to blame, there is no accident to blame.
... and for me, that is at the very heart of hillwalking: my decisions, my smarts and often enough my own very stupids.
Every life threatening situation I have ever got into, (phraseology again) has been got into by me and it has been me that has had to get me out of it. Running off An Stuc in black mist on to the naked crag. Lost off Slieve Bearnagh in nil vis and hanging above Crom Reservoir. Off desolate Macaterick, 180 to the correct bearing, in 2m cloud base, January. On Douglas Crag out of gas at the top of the gully - one step to heaven or hell. And only last year, pretty well done for, trapped at the edge of nightfall between torrential floods off the Glen and Blackstairs rivers.
My demise in any one of these circumstances? Not an accident in sight. All and every one my own doing. Bad planning, bad navigation, inexperience; and far too much bollocks in my head.
This impending winter we can imagine someone might take a skite off some emminently skiteable place or other and we as a community will hold and publicise our awkward and uncomfortable vigils and talk about accidents.
When the day comes that a bad decision launches me, arse foremost, into eternity, I know my friends (because they are my friends) will engage in a raucous debate about about WTF he was doing there, eejit? - and "accident" won't even come into it.
BleckCra
2017-12-05 20:20:15
Hillocks
Simon. Himself is the well known to some, Bernard Hill. Less well known of course are hills to do with ants, except to some. Keep er lit though. At least some sort of discussion and of course only a mountain view.
Incidentally, good work Grasshopper. Good, simple research and nice rounded argument per the midges. I would go with it although some could argue it is not flawless.
1. It is is over reliant on esteemed references and under reliant on its innate good common sense.
2. There is no way of knowing which came first - the Irish or the English. A determined researcher could posit the latter.
3. If every hill and bog on these islands is infested with midges which it is, what kind of unique Hell qualifies Hill A as the hill of the midges?

This is good for your Meelmore argument because no other hill on the planet is so noted for its ants.
simon3
2017-12-05 20:00:04
More midges.
Also, try Knocknagorraveela, hill of the midges. https://mountainviews.ie/summit/441/

Though I don't remember too many of them when I was there one winter. Though there were a lot of rushes so perhaps a different story in summer.
Logainm.ie the official placename website gives Cnon na GCorrmhiól as a name for this with various text records including a reference made by the OS in 1846 where the place was recorded with an alternative name of Midge hill.
Translation website http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/corrmhíol gives the translation of corrmhíol as midge.

Who is the worthy fellow in your pic incidentally?
BleckCra
2017-12-05 18:59:15
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"Tae mark whar England's province stands ..."
Midge Hill? Yes I think I remember her. Was she little and blond and vivacious? One sister, Boot.
Funny Simon how you know her too.

The Pinnacle is also known recently as The Midge Hill first coined in the 1960s by an Englishman camping there during Whitsun bank holiday. Its name also derives from a conflation with Mid Hill in the same whreabouts.
It resides in that strange, wild and wonderful country south of the Culter (pron cooter) group and including Tala and its bleak tops and the Upper River Clyde.
There is a top in the area called "Deid for Cauld" - dead from the cold. You get the picture.
Heading South you are enroute to Hart Fell and White Coomb.
This is true old Southern Scotland. Few goidelic, placenames. The Northern​ flank of the Southern uplands and cheek by jowl with the border with England - "and Tweed rins tae the ocean". Hills, Fells, Laws and Dods. Knowes, Rigs, Cleuchs. Brythonic, Old English and Norse. Not an Irishman or Teuchter in sight. Reivers - Armstrongs, Elliotts and interestingly Humes and Adams.
Is there any reason to go there? If you can get it out of the mist, yes. Lovely green, rolling hills as far as you can see. Moffat famous for its version of Welles Fargo. Broughton for its brewery. And .... Glasgows big but Biggar's Biggar.
Not the drama of the Highlands or cragginess of the Galloway Hills. Still, testing walks and maybe the best place in these islands to do map and compass.
As a friend once and innocently pointed out - "a great spot apart from the midgets."
simon3
2017-12-05 16:56:56
Ants in your placenames.
So you haven't heard of ant-hills?
Incidentally take a look at this place:
https://mountainviews.ie/summit/B7426/
BleckCra
2017-12-05 16:40:42
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O wad some Power the giftie gie us ...
I note my post, reference insect mountains, enthusiastically mentioned in dispatches.
Alas my apologies have to be retracted.
The Maggot of Kirkcudbrightshire's Maggot Hill turns out to be a corruption of maakit, Southern Lallan Scots for dirty (the closest English translation). A child would be maakit or a dog would be maakit ie covered in mud and dirt.
The etymology is the same as maggot coming from mawk or maak, Lallan Scots for maggot.
So maakit is literally maggotted - but is used to describe muddy/dirty as above.
Maggot Hill is muddy/dirty hill which makes more sense.


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