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simon3
2024-09-28 11:49:51
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Picture: The 'new' Keeragh Mountain near the Knocknaveacals. (Contract pics)

Cahas Surveying: Changes to Arderins etc
Context of comment:Surveying 2024, August and Sept in the Mournes and the Cahas.
Message:There are new positions for the Knocknaveacals, North and South, thanks to a suggestion from DoBIH. Knocknaveacal N was recorded with a height of 512.7, an increase of 3.6 on previous, now making it an Arderin. Knocknaveacal S had its position and height changed.

It turned out that Knockreagh is nearly a metre short of the magic 500m and is now demoted from being an Arderin.

It turned out that Coomacloghane is 598.9m and so is confirmed as not being a Vandeleur-Lynam.

Knockeirky which formerly had an estimated prominence of 30m turned out to actually have 39.4m so it's confirmed as an Arderin.
Knockeirky South was confirmed as not having enough prominence to be an Arderin. The value found was 28.2m, so no change.
So, one list promotion and one demotion. So be it.

Knockeirky S has fearsome defences, but there's an interesting way down.

We also added Keeragh Mountain aka Keecragh Mountain just NW of Knocknaveacal with a height of 363.2m. It looks shapely from a distance but it difficult to visit because of the grain of the land with 4 and 5 metre slabs all over the obvious route north of it, some of which are horizontally 100m.
Additional points:Let us know at admin@mountainviews.ie of any issues.
simon3
2024-09-16 09:38:22
Outage on MV now over.
Context of comment:There has been an outage on MountainViews.ie since around 8am yesterday, 15 Sept.
This was caused by a power problem at our hosting company.
It now appears to have been restored at around 10:30, 16 Sept
There is a risk that this will reoccur.
Message:Members, this was out of our control and we are of course sorry that it occurred.
Additional points:So far as we know, the website and other facilities are now working correctly.
Emails sent to the website on any @mountainviews.ie address such as admin@mountainviews.ie while the server was off may not get through. This depends on whether the senders email server buffers output to offline recipients.
So, if you sent something urgent, send again.
simon3
2024-09-13 11:21:33
Slieve Binnian North Tor now Arderin
Context of comment:For some years we have included Slieve Binnian North Top, 768m in the Mourne Mountains as an Arderin. However the Database of British and Irish Hills have pointed out that since we measured Slieve Binnian North Tor and found its height to be 682.5, it should be the Arderin.
Message:We have now corrected our listings.

Slieve Binnian North Tor is the Arderin with a prominence of around 53m
Slieve Binnian North Top is now an Arderin Beg, given that its prominence is around 23m and less than 30m

If you have climbed both then your listing in the Hall of Records won't change. If you had climbed the Top but not the Tor, then you will have one more to climb.

If you have received an Award for completing the Arderins, then this stands. The Award is for completing the list as far as it is known at the time of the Award.

As surveying proceeds there will be probably be some more changes for lists, though eventually the lists will stabilise. If you are in an area and note that a summit is below but near 500m or has prominence below but near 30 then climb it!

Similar goes for near Vandeleur-Lynams. There's a number of summits that might be or might not be in that list.

The Highest Hundred is relatively stable as there was a big push to measure them for the MI Irish Peaks book.
Additional points:We thank the Database for British and Irish Hills for pointing out this one as always.
simon3
2024-08-30 10:57:20
UPDATE 1. Track not appearing in old version.
Context of comment:Two users have reported ( thanks ! ) that when they click on the a track to get the information about the track that nothing happens.
We are investigating this .. it appears to be something to do with a new version of the graphing library used to to produce the "track profile"
Message:As a workaround to get information by clicking on the map for a track, use the new system, not the old system.
The new system will show track information if you click on the track, though it does it slightly differently.
Additional points:We are endeavouring to get the system to properly create the track profile.
UPDATE 1. The system is now responding correctly, though there may be other errors yet to manifest themselves or be corrected.
simon3
2024-08-08 11:06:11
"" from simon3 Contract pics
Picture: (Contract pics)

Adding comments in the new system.
Context of comment:You can now add comments for a mountain, hill, island etc in the new main page.
Just add your comment in the text boxes provided.
Adding a picture, handles them similarly to how the track upload system does it. You can browse to the picture or on a PC you can drag and drop.
Browsing to a picture will work on mobile devices, though you may have to search somewhat in the various places that the mobile devices stores its gallery (s).
Additional points:The code has been tested on various devices and works but this is new code and is likely to have errors.
Let us know at admin@mountainviews.ie
simon3
2024-05-19 09:55:20
"Crott, not an Arderin, but still part of an airy ridge with views both sides." from simon3 Contract pics
Picture: Crott, not an Arderin, but still part of an airy ridge with views both sides. (Contract pics)

Crott Mountain, near Croagh Patrick, demoted
Context of comment:Following surveying it was found that Crott Mountain, shown as 500m on both OSI and EastWest maps as 500m is actually 499.7 This qualifies it only as a Carn but no longer as an Arderin.
Message:If summiteering is of interest to you and you previously logged visiting Crott, then your total Arderin count will drop by one and your Carn count will increment by one.
simon3
2024-05-19 09:45:32
"New layout on MV of summit names for Tievummera." from simon3 Contract pics
Picture: New layout on MV of summit names for Tievummera. (Contract pics)

Tievummera, Sheefrys change. Needs action.
Context of comment:On surveying Tievummera in the Sheefrys it turned out that the trig pillar is nowhere near the highest point. It's actually some 600m further west.
So we have labelled the previously named "Tievummera" summit "Tievummera Trig". All the comments and your recorded logs etc are retained. However since it isn't the highest point, it isn't the Arderin or Vandeleur-Lynam.

To handle this we have created a new summit for the real highpoint, called "Tievummera Highpoint" , Taobh Iomaire (pointe is airde).

This will now be the main summit which when logged, will add to your Arderin or Vandeleur-Lynam count if summiteering interests you.

Doing this is also an aid in misty weather. Should you be traversing the ridge E to W, you will now avoid the previous oddity which was that you encounter the trig pillar but continue to rise for no apparent reason.
Message:For summiteers, you need, if you have previously visited Tievummera, now to log visiting Tievummera Highpoint. Most people who visited the trig top will also have walked over the highpoint.
simon3
2024-04-07 22:20:59
More EastWest names added for summits.
Context of comment:EastWest mapping have brought out a series of maps, mostly 1:25k, which contain of course the details for a number of summits. Some the names that EastWest use are different from the official summit names or the names that MV use.
For example for Knockaterrif Beg, 679.3m in the Galtys MV has sourced two names:
Knockaterriff Beg and Cnoc an Tairbh Beag. Some months ago MV added two names sourced by EW: Little Bull Hill and Cruach a' Tarbh Beag. You can see this at mountainviews.ie/summit/141
This has been done as a service to hillwaling to make it easier to actually find these names and to know what their official or other names are. If you search for Little Bull Hill or Cruach a' Tarbh Beag you will find this page with its information including the other names.
Message:Recently EW has produced a new map for Mweelrea and Croagh Patrick. With permission from EW we have added names for 38 summits to MV.
So for example mountainviews.ie/summit/457/ with MV names Crott Mountain and An Chrot also has the EW name Sliabh Buí, We expect it will be indexed shortly by search engines.
Additional points:We hope the additional information and the existing information are a useful service to hillwalkers. As with any change there is a possibility of errors by us in transcribing. Let us know if you have any issues at admin@mountainviews.ie
Note: MV is not endorsing the accuracy or otherwise of the EW names - we are including them because the EastWest names are widely sold and it may be hard to find information about the summits named on EW maps.
We do not support the removal of well established and official names from new maps.
simon3
2023-11-19 11:38:40
"New track upload screen." from simon3 Contract pics
Picture: New track upload screen. (Contract pics)

Feature added.
Context of comment:MountainViews allows users to upload the files created by GPS devices or Apps which are in ".GPX" format.
Currently the main page of MountainViews is being rewritten in a new "responsive" format which is intended to work better on mobile and tablet devices while also working on desktop computers.
Message:We have now created a new method accessed from the menu as Walks | Upload a track NEW".
This works on mobile and other sized devices including desktops. Where the device you are using includes a means of "Dragging and Dropping", then you can use this. It works nicely on desktops.

Where the device you are using doesn't have "Drag and Drop", such as mobile devices, you can use the browse feature to locate .gpx files saved from whatever App you were using. Some Apps tend to tuck the saved .gpx file into obscure folders, but generally they can be found. Or you can create an instance of Google Drive and save to that and then browse to it from MountainViews. We hope to comment further on this after we have gathered more user experiences.

You can then use the new editing system for the track. This is considerably simplified from the old system. Although not quite as flexible it is much quicker, allows for drag and drop of pictures and allows for easier captioning.
Additional points:Please try out the new system. In time we will remove the old system but first we need to have fully tried the new system.
simon3
2023-08-19 07:53:29
Unexpected changes may happen - please help
Context of comment:MountainViews is implementing a change whereby it can be installed as an App on major mobile platforms (e.g. Android, Apple iOS) and on some desktop & browser combinations (notably Windows + Google Chrome). In the technical world this is known as a "Progessive Web App" or PWA.

Initial trials with the App have been generally good with advantages such as much faster startup and page loading. Further advantages anticipated include social media import/export (e.g. sending/ receiving GPX files from other Apps, working somewhat while offline) and various others will follow.

However as this is a powerful tool, some tweaking and optimisation is necessary and some of this is difficult to test for because the way PWA's work on different platforms including mobile (Android/ iOS) and desktop to say nothing of different browsers.

Note: in general PWAs or more likely to work fully when you use them with an up-to-date Google Chrome browser which is available on most mobile platforms (including Apple) and on most desktop platforms (including Linux). However they also work well on other browsers such as Firefox.
Message:In an initial trial on 18th July 2023 results appeared good when tested. But some users (not all) reported that track uploading was failing or behaving oddly.

Changes have been made therefore to temporarily remove sources of trouble while a correction is made, though the App is still installable.
Additional points:We need help on this due to the variety of platforms that MountainViews.ie and its App "MountainViews App" runs on.

Please report any anomalies to admin@mountainviews.ie no matter how small. If the system hangs or does unexpected things let us know.

Note. One way of correcting some issues with this sort of App is to close ALL windows with MountainViews running (browser or App) and then reopen them. The forces a reinstallation of the App's controlling files.

Folks, we need help on this one.


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