All I can say is that this is a very tough walk as it involves almost impenetrable high gorse and heather. The plus side is that you feel that a very few come up here and there are a few hidden cairns along the summit. I definitely visited the summit, although the MountainViews map shows the summit marker further away than the actual trig point. Be careful as you skirt the quarry cliff on the ascent/descent. Wear long clothes to repel ticks, and have a stick to poke and prod your way though the high growth. You'll work hard to claim this little hill!