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The Summit

Monthly newsletter of for guestuser

June 2014



EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH, MIDLANDS Route ideas and places to go, many to "new" places.

The Brandon Ridge done as a loop walk., simoburn's 38.7km / 2437m epic. Summiteering Challenges, More on simonburn's attempt to climb the VLs+Arderins in a year project and other examples.

Book review: Connemara & Mayo - Mountain, Coastal & Island Walks, by Paul Phelan
New contours on maps, Are these the most precise publicly available for Ireland?

VIDEO: Slieve Foye by gerrym


WAI GPS Skills for Hillwalkers Saturday June 14th 2014 This is booked out with a longish waiting list.
More details here.

For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.

MOUNTAIN MEITHEAL: the following are upcoming work days for 2014:
28/06/2014 13/07/2014 26/07/2014 10/08/2014 23/08/2014 07/09/2014
20/09/2014 05/10/2014 18/10/2014 02/11/2014 15/11/2014
We publicise Mountain Meitheal because they make practical repairs to many of the more popular areas we walk on, using a voluntary community based approach. (More information at their website.)

View from near Eskatarriff East Top, an odd top in the Caha Mountains which has the property of being hughly impressive near to, but insignificant from far away. Its steep cliff offers unrestricted views down Cummeengeara. Click for source comment from thomas_g to whom many thanks.

In short: Discovery

Featured comment
Mullaghnarakill on the Glenbeigh Horseshoe: Stunning Ridge to the North East
Short Summary created by Onzy Thu 29 May 13:12:50 Mullaghnarakill is normally experienced as a small rise on the main ridge of the Glenbeigh Horseshoe walk. However, to its north-east, a spectacular ridge rises to the summit between the coums of Coomnacronia and Coomaglaslaw. Though this ridge can be easily ascended, descent would be difficult. The ridge is narrow and exposed on both sides, however the footing is good and hands need to be used only at a couple of points. Views into both coums are spectacular.

A number of routes can take in Mullaghnarakill. The main Glenbeigh Horseshow taking in the entire ridge from Macklaun to Drung Hill is the most obvious. Perhaps the best starting point for the complete circuit is around V64812 86761 (Point A) - it should take 7-8 hours. Another possible circuit is that of Coomnacronia, which involves ascending the north-east ridge directly to Mullaghnarakill and taking in Been Hill, Beenmore and Drung Hill. A good starting point for this would be at the bridge at V62202 87010 (Point B) - about 4.5 hours. A further possibility from the same starting point would be to ascend directly to Keamconneragh and to make a circuit around both Coomaglaslaw and Coomnacronia taking in from Keamconneragh to Drung Hill - about 6 hours.

NORTH: Wild thing
What it lacks in prominence, Drumavohy Hill in Donegal NW make up for in the sense of wilderness it projects, reports Simon3.
group on Drumavohy Hill: Low but wild hill with coastal views.
Although just scraping into MV's lists with an estimated prominence of 100m this summit has the feel of somewhere high, remote and wild. One place to start is at C2393 4201 where there is space for 1 or 2 cars. Immediately north of here is a minor driveable but untarred road, which starts uphill allowing you to gain height quickly. Follow this as far as it goes and then head for the summit over ... Click here

NORTH: Chickenfeede
Feede ‘Mountain’ is a bit of a misnomer, as it is just 233m high, and besides a nice view of Slieve Gullion, this one is strictly for the baggers, says Harry Goodman.
group on Feede Mountain: Not much to commend it !
Park at a forestry entrance off a minor road at J0775814196. Follow the track N and then NNE gently uphill for about 1km to a track junction J0774015189. Take the track turning off sharply S and continue up to J0755414856. A little further along look for a feint track on the right going up the steep bank into the trees. (This, as off 16 May 2014 was just before coming to a large fallen tree across ... Click here

NORTH: A very worthy addition
Slievenaglogh in Cooley/Gullion is a welcome new arrival to the MV lists, recounts Harry Goodman, offering splendid views from bottom to top.
group on Slievenaglogh: A very worthy addition to the MV lists.
Park at J1300510104 and 150 metres further SW along the road cross a stile on the right. Follow the track due S up along the forest edge to its crest before bearing off SE to pass a memorial plaque to an aircraft crash J1311308998. Continue up ESE over grass and heather and around several rocky outcrops to gain the top marked by a trig pillar. Alternatively from the parking place walk SE along th ... Click here

NORTH: VIDEO: Slieve Foye
Gerrym exploited a (mostly) sunny day to climb from the Carlingford side as described in this comment with linked evocative video.
gerrym on Slieve Foye: Walking on S Foye - A Video
Slieve Foye is just great in so many ways and a recent visit rekindled memories from previous walks and created great new ones.
Carlingford is a great base to explore Slieve Foye and the waymarked ways out of the village provide clear direction on to the hillside. A steady climb tantalizes the views that get ever better with time and height. Graz ... Click here

WEST: Three beautiful approaches
Mayo’s beautiful Ben Gorm can be climbed using several different approaches, all of which offer stunning views in all directions, reports Onzy.
group on Ben Gorm: Flattish Summit - highest point of the range
Ben Gorm is the most southerly peak in the compact range of hills that form the Ben Gorm Mountains. The classic approach to this hill would be a part of a circuit taking in Ben Gorm, Ben Creggan and Ben Creggan South Top and making use of the long raking spurs that extend eastwards from Ben Gorm and Ben Cregan. However, completing the entire circuit will involve a long trek through bog to the e ... Click here

Featured track
Challenge Walk class circuit at the far end of the Dingle Peninsula
simoburn put up this track during May amongst many both long and short. Surprisingly, at 38.7km / 2437m climb this was not the longest. We included it because it shows an interesting and creative route in our opinion.

The original track is here:
simoburn on Brandon Ridge plus a few! PMG Walk 26
Brandon Ridge plus a few! PMG Walk 26 in terrible weather! walk, Length:38.7km, Climb: 2437m, Area: Faill an tSáis, Brandon Group (Ireland) Faill an Click here

38 tracks were uploaded in May, many brilliant. Whatever the length or terrain covered, please do submit suggestions for this "Featured Track" spot in future at

SOUTH: Untouched by human foot?
Fordal Hill in Mangerton is a hidden gem, says Geo, and his route was remarkable as virtually no traces of humankind were to be seen.
Geo on Foardal: A hidden gem of a walk in the kingdom
This summit is relatively easily reached with careful navigation through the lakes and roughish ground from the Kerry Way to the East. We did it as 2nd top of a five summit, seven hour round (yes 7 hours) of Knockanaguish, Foardal, Derrygariff, Peakeen Mountain West Top and Peakeen starting at approx V917751 (T junction on Kerry Way North of Kenmare, parking limited to a couple of cars on left e ... Click here

EAST: The Vertigo Witch Project
The good Captain has tracked a fairly obvious ascent of the much-climbed (over 500 MV users at time of writing) Mullacor in Wicklow, but his accompanying text, with its acute ruminations on the route, the company, the trees, and the enveloping darkness, is a lovely evocation of the hillwalking experience, and a great riposte to those that think that ticking off a list is a soulless experience...not if you've got a soul it isn't.
CaptainVertigo on Mullacor
MV seems to have loads of Tracks for the Glenmalure area but walk, Length:9.3km, Climb: 360m, Area: Mullacor, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Mullacor Click here

EAST: Way to go
The Wicklow Way provides easy access to Ballycumber Hill in Wicklow, which features an ancient ringfort on its slopes, recounts mcrtchly.
group on Ballycumber Hill: Wicklow Way gives good approaches
The Wicklow Way contours to the east of Ballycumber Hill along an old drover path. This gives easy access to the hill from both the northeast and southwest. From the northeast start at T049 771, while from the southwest start at T021 744. In each case the Wicklow Way will bring you onto the slopes of the hill, from which a route over the hillside bog can be made to the summit. An alternative and q ... Click here

EAST: An Evening's Entertainment (possibly)
Here is the track for the last item. mcrtchly and kernowclimber have poked their heads out from their tents / mineshafts to record a nice little ramble (and some precise information about parking) in the Wicklow interior; a straightforward ascent of Ballycumber Hill utilising a National loop walk trail and other clearly defined paths. It scarcely constitutes a day's worth of walking, but could be combined with other short shleps hereabouts. We note that a windfarm is being constructed on Ballycumber Hill.
mcrtchly on Looping the loop up Ballycumber
MV describes a number of routes up Ballycumber from the NE a walk, Length:4.7km, Climb: 223m, Area: Ballycumber Hill, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Ballyc Click here

EAST: Like it and Lumper it...
The dedicated Irish hillwalker will cover a lot of trackless ground in their lives, but the hills of the Cooley peninsular are becoming increasingly criss-crossed with pedestrian thoroughfares...a fine area for the timid or the tyro. Trailtrekker has uploaded a place-to-place route across the less glamorous north-eastern end of the range, reaching two summits but passing within sneezing distance of two more. The lazy may note that all of these tops can be effectively neutered by using the access road to the Black Mountain masts.
Trailtrekker on Flagstaff to the Lumpers
Part of the Lumpers Walking Festival, Sunday A Walk. Getting walk, Length:15.8km, Climb: 589m, Area: Anglesey Mountain, Cooley/Gullion (Ireland) Angl Click here

EAST: Dunranhill, Access Elusive and Forbidden! Pah, just ask!
Sandman has taken the trouble to simply ask for access at the obvious place and found it available. He has done us all a favour. Thanks Mr Sandman and Marvel
sandman on Dunranhill: Private Forest.
The summit of this hill is located in a private forest Dunranhill Forest not Coillte accessed (with permission) at its entrance located at O2587902887 which allows a very easy accent over forest roads to within meters of the trig. Click here

EAST: Small is beautiful
Kilmichael Hill in Wexford merits two new comments, one concerning the ease of access and the other on the surprising beauty of this diminutive little top, report sandman and kernowclimber.
sandman on Kilmichael Hill: A Local Amenity.
Ever since the inclusion of the new summits on Mountain Views it is nice to arrive at summits where permission for access is not required and at Kilmichael this is due to the endevour of the local community in developing a forestry walk. Parking at the church above Hollyfort continue uphill to the fifth house on right and opposite its gate is an open gap into a narrow but mature forest (T110746417 ... Click here

MIDLANDS: Quarry marks the top
A radio mast on the approach and an old quarry at the summit are a couple of the joys to be experienced on Carrigadoon Hill in the South Midlands, says mcrtchly.
group on Carrigadoon Hill: Radio Central
Access is from a forest track at S412279 where there is parking for 2-3 cars. Follow the track staying right at the first junction and left at all other junctions (except at S3988 2858 where you continue ahead rather than take the track on the left) and you'll arrive at the radio mast. Keep following the track for 100m, the summit is just above an old quarry on the left in the trees (not on the t ... Click here

MIDLANDS: Nice little rocky top
Clashabeema in the South Midlands offers good views for such a low lier as well as a bouldered summit, recounts Thomas_g
thomas_g on Clashabeema: There is a trig
Contrary to the OSI map, there is a trig point on top, of a type I haven't seen before. Views are good for such a small hill; there is a bit of bouldering to be had around the summit area, if you're so inclined. This is on farmland, but there are many houses, not wanting to rouse them all early on a Sunday morning to ask permission, I hopped the gate and followed the track from the south to near ... Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


Book reviewers. Please send in your reviews!

Harry Goodman's video commended.
This is more a collection of stills however the music and the novelty of the snow scenes in the Mournes are really impressive. CaptainVertigo on Metro Goodman Movies
May I draw your attention to a very fine addition to the MountainViews YouTube body of work? Harry Goodman, one of our most prolific contributors, has photographed and uploaded some excellent Mournes winter scenes and linked them all with Grieg's Peer Gynt. I was very taken by the unity of theme, the sense of clarity and purity. Take a look by copying and pasting the URL, Otherwise simply open You ... Click here

Rare ways to have your car destroyed.
The following appeared in the Relative Hills of Britain Google group. Orkney Danger Alert, posted by: chris bienkowski recently:

In the last two weeks three cars have been completely destroyed by fires caused by birds nesting on top of their engines.

Just thought I would pass this on.
An issue abroad.
Judging by this message from the American Hiking Society fracking is a serious issue there:

Protect the places you love to hike. Fracking is responsible for the degradation of over 360,000 acres of land nationally since 2005 with more than 80,000 fracking wells in 17 states. Fracking leaves damaging, permanent footprints on our environment, harms trails and the hiking experience, and degrades our water supplies with polluted wastewater (280 billion gallons of toxic wastewater in 2012 alone). Fracking will only continue to expand unless we act. Right now oil and gas companies own leases to 141 million acres of land, bigger than the combined areas of California and Florida. Unsatisfied, they will continue to gobble up leases inside our National Forests and at the doorstep of our National Parks.
Ordnance Survey Ireland Adventure Map Series - Help Wanted
simon3 on Request from Ordnance Survey for hints.
Currently OSi are working on 1:25,000 mapping for the Dublin Mountains/ Wicklow area. They are proposing 3 double sided maps covering the area. They have taken on board comments made over the years about the accuracy of the 1:50,000 maps in some respects. So for example they are planning to improve forest track coverage. The way they are doing this starts with air-photography. With high qua ... Click here

We have mentioned the new 1:25000 series that OSi are putting out and also the contributions made by MountainViews members to them.
The Ordnance Survey now have a page describing them. which is well worth visiting if you are interested in the progress of maps in the Republic. Should this series be completed and done well, then the Republic's 1:25000 series will start to be as useful as that of the OSNI (now LPS) in Northern Ireland.


At the end of May I attended the two day IUF conference held in Dungarvan, Co Waterford and near the Comeraghs mountain area. I have a number of hopes for the IUF. Can they do something for summiteers in the area of access? Can there be a synergy with MountainViews, the first group to start comprehensively documenting the summits of Ireland for hillwalkers and other visitors?

There was a number of features that struck me immediately in the conference. Perhaps the first was the makeup of the participants which brought together many farmers and their representatives, local upland forum people, central and local government agencies (from the Republic anyway) and a number of hillwalkers mostly under the MI (Mountaineering Ireland) banner. While many of the concerns of non-recreational users are different from ours, it is clear to see that there is goodwill on all sides.

Another striking feature was the number of local upland forums operating or starting. There’s nine of these in the Republic and four in NI. The southern ones are essentially voluntary, the northern get substantial government money. In no particular order the southern ones are Burren, Reeks, Galtees, Knockmealdowns (two), Comeraghs, Wicklow, Dublin Mtns, Binn Sliebhe, Leenane and the northern: Mournes Heritage Trust, Antrim Coast & Glens, Belfast Hills, Sperrins). These upland forums vary widely in what they do. The long established Wicklow Uplands Council efforts have secured access on an agreed basis to a number of critical routes. The recently announced MacGillycuddy Reeks group will hopefully mitigate some of the parking and trail damage issues. Then there is the Mournes Heritage Trust (MHT). Seen by many as a standard bearer for using available funding to reduce the effects of large numbers on the landscape. They may be a bête noir to some on MountainViews – at least one anyway – but there is no denying they consult, plan and avoid simplistic cheap approaches to landscape maintenance.

It’s interesting to look at the total list of areas that might benefit from a local partnership. MountainViews currently lists just over 60 summit areas (broken further in some cases to subareas). Some of these are large and for the purposes of community partnership would need to be split up. Let’s say the number might be in the region of 100+ as a working number of places anywhere in Ireland where there are significant uplands. The thirteen upland forums represent a great start.

A further striking impression I took away is the effort to build trust between key parties, connecting with the local while sharing experience nationally (at least in RoI). Local schools had been canvassed to produce artwork for the conference hall. A local historian could point to a nondescript old building, a mill, erected immediately the year before the Repeal of the Corn Laws in 1846 made milling unviable.

Trust is also about clarity and people said what they needed to say. I heard a few trenchant farmer’s voices. Their complaints weren’t necessarily directed at recreational users, more towards the vicissitudes of government, EU & local regulation. Not perhaps surprising in the light of the economics, where apparently the average income of hillfarmers is around €13000 supplemented by around €18000 in various subventions.
Not apparent was any critical comment or indeed much comment of any sort from an ordinary hillwalking point of view. The €100 fee was never going to help here. It would seem to me that the IUF process is in danger of becoming remote from ordinary hillwalkers in clubs or the much larger numbers that walk unorganised.

The last aspect I would mention is the high quality of the experts brought in. For someone like myself not from a rural background (something I suppose would be the case for most MVers) there were useful insights into farmer’s concerns from fear of dogs, to change in upland burning dates, to the effect of regulation on the chemical control of bracken.

Other experts had a more academic background, able to discuss the hill ecology relating it, literally, to what we were standing on. Also discussed was the value of the land as an eco-service, burying carbon or collecting clean water.

Over the years I have watched with amazement the development of the Ballyhouras, for example seeing them appear in the Challenge Walk Calendar. If the most scenic and recreationally notable Irish mountain areas are ballerinas, the Ballyhouras are, well, occasional folk dancers. The ranking for summit quality by area given by MV users to the Ballyhouras (/statistics/ ) puts them in 46th position out of over 60. Despite this when we visited the area twice last year, while summiteering, we found adequate carparks (one with a shop) and a great buzz. The 1:50000 map had been accurately corrected. MTB and walking were being managed to avoid conflict. All in all a feeling of welcome, making the best of this relatively small inland range. None of this happened by accident, of course, as was explained by Carmel Fox, CEO of Ballyhoura Development in her talk who mentioned a whole string of further successes enjoyed by the area. Idly speculating, I wonder what managers of the quality of those in the Ballyhouras could do in a really fertile recreational area like Connemara or the Beara Peninsula?

Were this community approach to be rolled out to the perhaps 100+ upland areas, then indeed many of the issues that are problematical for hillwalkers in Ireland would vanish.

Picture taken on field trip to the Mahon Falls. The path was considered by many to be too wide and the wrong colour.
However while respecting the value of upland forums and partnerships, there still needs to be some questions considered. Here’s a few that come to mind:

a. How widespread is the upland partnership approach likely to go? Will what works in a prosperous area like the Ballyhouras, Dublin or Belfast with a large catchment area of local recreational users work in some of the much better hillwalking areas with a sparser population and disadvantaged farming. There are access problems for example in the beautiful areas of the southern Dunkerrons or the Dartry Mountains. I hope I can be proved wrong, but unfortunately I doubt that partnerships are going to be established in more than a fraction of the upland areas of Ireland and much of the best hillwalking just isn’t going to benefit from them.

b. How well is this going to deal with landowners who are not farmers. Are they part of the community in a partnership? Yet in some places access is restricted more by residential or holiday homes than farming. As an aside, having Coillte land remain as part of the solution rather than a new problem is something we should all thank MI for.

c. A major difficulty with hillwalking in Ireland isn’t so much actual restrictions on access or active hostility, both of which are rare, but the uncertainty as to what you will find and the legal ambiguity as to rights. How are upland partnerships, themselves voluntary, able to assist in more than specific cases? Could they embrace a “Walkers Welcome” approach?

d. Recently I was in Wales, which of the three countries making up Britain is arguably the most similar to Ireland. Following legislation, the maps there show “access land” publicly marked and there seemed to me to be a welcome anywhere in the wild countryside we went to with stiles, signposts and clearly mapped paths. Nevertheless alongside the legal access land approach there is also an upland forum operating in places. For example we noted an agreed access path linking the Nanttle ridge to the west. Far from backing away from the legal approach I gather that the Welsh Senedd is considering even more liberal laws on access patterned on those in Scotland. So, should an upland partnership approach rule out or complement a legislated approach?

Upland Forums and information.

The IUF lays emphasis on issues we should address in what MountainViews does and prompts us to consider these. For instance, as MountainViews has started listing many lower prominence hills, now down to 100m since January, it is clear that a higher proportion of these are on actively used farmland than the higher prominence hills and mountains. This does not necessarily rule them out since permission is often freely granted. However members need to be aware of the issues, need to share information and need to take a reasonable approach. MountainViews is well positioned to retain and share information found from members’ practical encounters. Even if, magically, an Irish access bill suddenly made access much more available, there would still be a need for walkers to know what was important for local landowners. In this context, precepts from the IUF may well be very useful.

To conclude Upland Forums should be useful allies to MV users. If you are a member of MountainViews do consider involving yourself with a local Upland Forum.

-- Simon Stewart


Book review: "Connemara & Mayo - Mountain, Coastal & Island Walks" by Paul Phelan.
Publisher: The Collins Press
Published : 2011

This is an excellent book, informative, well written and beautifully illustrated with colour photographs taken by the author and two others, Sean O’Farrell and Brigid Sealy. Its 152 pages give detailed descriptions of 33 walks together with suggestions for variations and alternatives to the main routes described. The book caters for walkers of all abilities. Each walk is graded on a 1 to 5 scale from easy to challenging. The walk descriptions include a coloured sketch map, the walk distance, ascent, estimated time to complete and relevant map / GPS co-ordinates. The descriptions also inform the reader which OSI maps are required and the text refers to the OSI maps and Harvey’s Connemara Map where necessary.

General safety, Leave No Trace, access and other issues are well dealt with in the introduction and the author has also included a list of references and a glossary. Specific safety issues which may be encountered on some of the walks are included in the walk descriptions where relevant. The walk descriptions are sprinkled with interesting information on archaeology, geology, folklore, local history and the natural world in general. The book is printed on durable, glossy paper which enhances the photographs and, although the book is a softback, the cover is strong and quite robust. Weighing 280 grams (10 oz.) and measuring 20.5 x 13 cms (8 x 5 ins), it is well worth its space in your backpack.

This book will be useful for summiteers, county high point visitors and for those just wanting to go for a good hike. For example, by slightly modifying one of the routes described by the author, the Glencorbet Horseshoe, I was able to visit Benbaun, the county high point of Co Galway, visit 6 summits on the MountainViews lists, Benbaun (Maolán), Benbrack, Muckanaght, Benfree, Benbaun and Knockpasheemore and have a really good hike of approximately 17kms with 1150 m of ascent. Two of the summits, Muckanaght and Benbaun are also listed among MountainViews Highest 100 list. The coastal and other introductory and moderate walks described in the book are useful for days when you would like to have less strenuous yet interesting days out, perhaps in the company of someone less obsessed with ascents and summits.

I particularly like the way the author deals with the Maumturks. He provides 4 separate walk descriptions for 4 different sections of the classic Maumturks walk, enabling a walker to explore these mountains and have a good hike without having to put themselves under the pressure of attempting the classic route. The 4 descriptions can also be combined and used, if desired, to give a good description of the classic walk.

County Mayo is not neglected as 14 or the 33 walks described are in Mayo, including Mweelrea, the county high point of Mayo, Slievemore and Croaghaun on Achill and a more interesting route across Croagh Patrick than the well-travelled route up and down from Murrisk. As in Connemara, I have availed of the book’s walk descriptions and some of its suggested variations and alternatives to have some really good days on the hills. I had one particularly memorable day while walking on Mweelrea last August, when I descended along the ridge shown on the book’s cover photograph, enraptured by wonderful views of Connemara, Killary Harbour and Mweelrea itself.

-- Mel O'Hara

[ MV Editor's note: one omission from the bibliography of this book is any reference to MountainViews, now a very substantial resource for Connemara, Mayo and the entire island.]


Restart! Go Back! Return!
You will encounter this message if you leave MV for a couple of hours and then come back to it.
Just click on the link and MV will restart more or less where you left off.

What? you don't like bad poetry? Well if you have something apt and better do suggest it.

Otherwise in May we starting offering better hill-shading and improved contours - both make sense when using the OSM - Mapnik layer.
Full info
simon3 on Improved contours.
As you may know, MountainViews offers various layers when displaying maps. (Grey "layers" button at top right of map). One of these is Open Street Map available in two flavours "Mapnik" and "Cyclemap". The latter offers inbuilt contours and layer tinting. The former doesn't so we also offer two additional layers Hillshade and Contours. An improved form of Hillshade and Contouring has become av ... Click here

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

Project Mountain Goat - Simon Byrne Some of you may have noticed among recent submitted tracks, a few of more than normal length. Try a Brandon walk of 38.7k with an ascent of 2,437m taking in 16 tops; or a traverse of the Comeraghs of 42.5k with an ascent of 1,769m, taking in 12 tops; or even one in the Mournes, 37.9k, 2,565m, 16 tops. These are the work of a new member, Simon Byrne (simoburn), who is a man with a mission.

That mission, which he has called Project Mountain Goat (PMG), is to summit the entire Vandeleur-Lynam and Arderin lists (they overlap in part, but there are 454 hills in total here!). Not only that, but he plans to complete the entire thing in one year!!

He started with the Great Sugarloaf on 13th January and, so far has logged a total of 211 MV hills, 105 being V-Ls and 128 Arderins.

His progress can be followed on and we hope to have a fuller report on Simon and PMG in the next newsletter.

Other personal challenges
Member pn_runner climbed an earlier version of the V-L list some years ago, taking a year. I don't think anyone has climbed all the 500m summits in a year however.
This year has seen various other personal challenges coming to light, some tackle interesting variations, some huge. We mentioned conormcbandon's seriously long run at the end of the Iveragh peninsula last month. Member Rob_Lee has decided he wants to be the youngest man to climb every Irish peak over 600m. Last year member Sandman managed to walk in every one of the summit areas of MountainViews (60 of them, but then we added a few in Jan). Also, of course, there are the 1675 members who have at least started logging summits on MV - nearly 200 of these have already reached 100.
Tell us about your challenge at Note: we are not much interested in 4 Peak type challenges or anything that's got a large driving component.
A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops. The first reprint with numerous minor amendments is now out.

simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

As members will know, for over a decade, has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... Click here
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This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. Amareelia, andomi, AngelaHarrison, Ballina, bananaporridge, BarneyT, Billy-O, Braefell, Casper, clifden, ConorReeves258, danielkeenaghan, Donaloc, dotz, douginireland, eamonbadi1, edcorkery, fmrcardona, gemmaoh, geroconnor03, graeme, grehan, Hilliard, Hillseekers, janko, Johncallaghan, johnt333, kilnadeema, kkelly, ktybelle, lackmt2, luinros, michaelstrain, mountmellick, murpha26, Myebyrne, ofarrellb, paulu, pavelbodi, pearceoshea, peter_m, pleonard, prehenrambler, Przewalski, RachelW, Raissa, rhino, Roadaly, sepocon, shapes1973, Sharonosullivan, sir_boba_fett, stephenocorrain2, suiladoir, Summer, suzzi101, tiki, tomasocarthaigh, Tucmendimalh, VitorPereira, whoever (61)

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There were comments on the following summits Ballyhook Hill, Breesy Hill, Brewel Hill, Camaross Hill, Clashabeema, Clondermot Hill, Corn Hill, Crockauns, Crocknagapple, Dunranhill, Eskatarriff, Eskatarriff East Top, Faughil, Foardal, Garravagh North Top, Kilcullen Hill, Kilmacomma Hill, Kilmichael Hill, Knockannavea, Knocklaur, Knocknaheeny, Lambay Island, Lannimore Hill, Larkfield, Meenavally, Meenseefin, Oughtarnid, Slieve Binnian, Slieve Commedagh, Slieve Donard, Slieve Foye, Slievecarnane, Slievekeeragh Hill, Soldiers hill, The Hill of Moat, Tullyhappy, Westaston Hill
and these tracks Abbey Hill, West Clare Ireland, Anglesey Mountain, Cooley/Gullion Ireland, Ballycumber Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Ballynabrocky Hill, Donegal NW Ireland, Baurtregaum Far NE Top, Slieve Mish Ireland, Ben Dash, West Clare Ireland, Ben Gorm, Ben Gorm Mountains Ireland, Benagh, Brandon Group Ireland, Caher West Top, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Carrigoona Commons, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Cloghernagh, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Cnoc na Boirne, Donegal NW Ireland, Cnoc na Stuaice, Slieve Mish Ireland, Craigcannon, Donegal NW Ireland, Croaghskearda, Central Dingle Ireland, Crockalough, Antrim Hills Ireland, Crockbrack, Sperrin Mountains Ireland, Crohan West, Knockmealdown Mountains Ireland, Cruach Mhárthain, Dingle West Ireland, Drumavohy Hill, Donegal NW Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Duntryleague Hill, Ballyhoura Mountains Ireland, Faill an tSáis, Brandon Group Ireland, Fir Mountain, Sperrin Mountains Ireland, Galty Mountains Ireland, Garraun, Twelve Bens Ireland, Kilnamanagh Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Knockalla, Donegal NW Ireland, Knockbrin, Donegal NW Ireland, Knocklaur, Partry/Joyce Country Ireland, Knocknanacree, Central Dingle Ireland, Long Hill, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Mount Kennedy, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Mullacor, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Seefin, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, South Midlands Ireland, Sugarloaf Hill, Knockmealdown Mountains Ireland, Tievebulliagh, Antrim Hills Ireland tracks and these walks were created (none in period)

Thanks to all 1126 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

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Summary. MountainViews now has 6867 comments about 1237 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1384). We want to get a good gps track showing each of the major ways up every summit in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have a short summary for every summit in Ireland. There's a few (147) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • Report suspicious activity to the police forces, as below.
  • If your car is broken into in an upland area report it to the PSNI or Gardai as this will help them be aware of the issue and tackle it in future. Store the numbers. In Northern Ireland use the PSNI non-emergency number 0845 600 8000. In the Republic you can find the local Garda District HQs phone numbers at Specifically for the hotspot of Wicklow: the Garda Divisional Headquarters in Bray is 01 6665300.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as GPS tracks.
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