Featured Track of the Month Summer in the Bens
This month's selection is a round of Glencorbet in the Twelve Bens, courtesy of peter1 during the recent heatwave. A good mixture of the frequented and the exploratory, featuring both Benbaun and a testing ascent of Muckanaght's north face.
peter1 on Glencorbet Loop
Main walk Start: 09:02, End: 17:38, Duration: 8h35m, Length: 16.9km,Ascent: 1125m, Descent: 1123m Places: Start at L79591 57324, Binn Bhán, Benbrack, Mucanacht, Binn Fraoigh, An Bhinn Bhán, Binn Charrach, end at Start (statistics such as Ascent or Length etc should be regarded as approximate. Duration depends on the speed of the person making the track)
The last day of the July 2021 heatwave and with temperatures expected to be in the mid 20s, I decided on a relatively early start. I hadn't planned to complete the loop as I wasn't sure if I would be able to ascend Muckanaght from the North. Also, the heat and horseflies were having a severe impact on the mood of the party! I spent some time on the summit of Benbrack looking for a route up the very steep, grassy north face of Muckanaght and saw a series of ramps, a broad one low down with a short traverse out right to a narrower one that led upwards, close to the summit. I was able to use another ramp, sloping up and left to gain the summit. This way of climbing Muckanaght is not recommended in wet conditions!
Low cloud passing over the summit of Benbrack, from Benbaun. After a long rest and refuel, I continued on to Benbaun. On the descent, I opted to continue along the ridge to Knockpasheemore, partly to enjoy the views and partly to avoid the dead heat of the valley floor. Overall, a really great day out in the Bens. Highly recommended.
Benbaun (725m) (L), from Muckanaght
NORTH: Can white men sing the Bluestacks?
Even by the standards of Donegal's irascible Bluestacks, the country to the north-west of the Barnesmore Gap is particularly adventurous. simon3 went this way to visit the inconvenient Arderin of Croaghanirwore and a few other attendant tops, finding plenty of bog, exposed granite, and hallucinogenically-shaped sheets of water, plus some rather tough going underfoot...you'll feel a long way from a road considering you're not actually THAT far from a road.
simon3 on Croaghanirwore from the Barnesmore Gap
The main target of this route was Croaghanirwore, however we thought we would get there via Brown's Hill and the Croaghn| walk, Len: 15.0km, Climb: 674m, Area: Brown's Hill, Bluestack Mountains (Irela ... Click here ...
NORTH: Northern delights
In his quest to bag the highest peaks in each province, scottyplusone ascends Slieve Donard and ranks it as his favourite climb along with Mweelrea.
scottyplusone on Slieve Donard, (Sliabh Dónairt):
WOWZER.... it is tied with Mweelrea of being my favourite climb. It is soooo beautiful. We left from the car park and spent the day enjoying every minute... even the summit was grand lol. Plus one was 6 years when we did this. He loved it too. There are different terrains and a clear path, friendly locals, very safe. We got excellent weather and the little Billy goat himself asked could we do it a ... ... Click here ...
NORTH: Ravens and raptors
On his ascent of Slieve Binnian in the Mournes, member mush witnessed the sight of a flock of ravens in a deadly duel with a peregrine falcon.
mush on Slieve Binnian, (Sliabh Binneáin):
Great walk up Binnian on the last of the hot days in the heatwave July 23. Had a lovely cooling swim across the Blue Lough after the descent. The best kind of wild swimming.
On the way up saw numerous ravens together, 11 or 12 at one point. They were circling and chasing a large raptor. Took photos with a long lens and it appears to be a peregrine falcon they were chasing. ... Click here ...
NORTH: Cooleys for cats
For those prepared to take a minor detour from the arterial N1/M1 road from Dublin to Belfast will find some fine hillwalking spread along the length of the Cooley peninsular. Bunsen7 has had a look at the western end of this area, taking in a section of the Tain Way (making the route easy to extend) and taking in antiquities such as the huge cairn on Carnavaddy, the legendary resting place of Bran.
Bunsen7 on Ravensdale Loop
Partly follows the path also shown in Track 2347. Crosses the low lying ridge using obvious tracks. Loops back down usin| walk, Len: 15.8km, Climb: 608m, Area: Clermont Carn, Cooley Mountains (Ireland ... Click here ...
NORTH: The nature of the beast
While warning of rockfalls on Binevenagh Hill in the Keenaght area, pdtempan also encounters a myriad of flora and fauna to enrich the senses.
pdtempan on Binevenagh, (Binn Fhoibhne):
Thaistil cnocadóirí Phobal ar a'n Iúl (grúpa atá lonnaithe san Ómaigh) ó thuaidh go Binn Fhoibhne i gContae Dhoire ar na mallaibh. Dhreap naonúr againn an sliabh Dé Domhnaigh. Lá breá grianmhar a bhí ann agus tonn teasa coicíse ag teacht chun deiridh. Thosaíomar ó gheata foraoise ar Bhóthar Leighery (C70303173) agus dhreapamar suas go dtí iomaire an mhullaigh, ag siúl siar ó dheas. Bhí lón againn ... ... Click here ...
WEST: 'I wish I was on the N17...'
For fans of the Saw Doctors who fancy a day off from a Tuam pilgrimage march-fixer has uploaded a track that makes an unusual journey to an in inland island, one of many located in the substantial Lough Corrib. The wander over the causeway to Inchequin is more watery than most rural strolls, but looks very pleasant nevertheless.
march-fixer on Causeway enjoyment
If you want a leisurely and scenic stroll by water then visit Inchequin Island with its lovely causeway. There is a larg| walk, Len: 5.5km, Climb: 14m, Area: South Connemara (Ireland) ... Click here ...
SOUTH-WEST: Manic Miner
Down past the usual hillwalking haunts on Cork's Beara Peninsular, Onzy has been exploring the area around Allihies, in particular the Ballydonegan loop. The northern section explores the coast and the old mine workings therein, before a southern loop attracts a slightly less positive review (unless poor marking and lousy underfoot conditions are your thing).
Onzy on Allihies Circuit
Walk based loosely round the longest of the looped walks available from Allihies, the Ballydonegan Loop.. Starting from | walk, Len: 21.9km, Climb: 551m, Area: Cork Islands (Ireland) ... Click here ...
WEST: Walkers not welcome
Doon Hill is a pretty Galway Coastal Hill, but barbed wire and threatening signs make it currently inaccessible, along with the adjacent historic castle, write Colin Murphy.
group on Doon Hill:
As of August 2021 there are severe access issues with this small hill. Previously access could be had from Bunowen beach, just to the south, but halfway up you encounter a new, high barbed wire fence along with threatening warning signs. The historic castle is also apparently in private ownership so also remains inaccessible at this time. ... Click here ...
WEST: Beautiful loop walk suitable for all.
Erris Head Hill offers a gentle 5km loop walk with beautiful coastline views and is one that even kids could do, reports Colin Murphy.
group on Erris Head Hill, (Cnoc Ceann Iorrais):
Parking for 20 or more cars to be found at F7055439572, along with portaloos, and in the summer, a refreshments van. Follow the loop trail (marked with white stones and posts) which hugs the coastline in an anti-clockwise direction, before cutting back on itself when you reach the summit cairn. It is approximately 5km long and can be done in trainers. Suitable for all levels of walker. The views o ... ... Click here ...
WEST: Simple yet stunning
You can drive most of the way up Minaun on Achill, after which its a relatively easy walk to the summit, and on a fine day the views are stunning, says Colin Murphy.
Colin Murphy on Minaun, (An Mionnán):
I echo the comments of others in that this walk is very simple as you can drive most of the ascent where you reach a few ugly masts. Beyond these, however, the easy stroll up Minaun is magnificent in the panorama of Achill and the Mayo coastline, especially on a day like I experienced - blue skies, high twenties. ... Click here ...
SOUTH-WEST: Pilgrims, further
Brandon is an obvious target on the rare occasions where the notoriously fickle Dingle conditions give way to something slightly more climatically reliable, and markwallace seized the day. Beginning with an ascent of the Faha pilgrim route, traversing Brandon, Brandon Peak and Gearhane, and ending with a fortifying/agonizing road walk along the Owenmore River, it's a splendid promenade that could be extended to the north to take in Masatiompan or could use a second car to finish atop the Conor Pass. One of Ireland's best.
markwallace on Brandon and Brandon Peak from Cloghane
This is the classic middle section of the Brandon ridge, up from the coastal village of Cloghane (plenty of parking at t| walk, Len: 21.7km, Climb: 1221m, Area: Cnoc Bréanainn, Brandon Group (Ireland) ... Click here ...
Featured summit comment A beautiful glen - worth visiting in its own right Bunsen7
Bunsen7's trek up Baurtregaum's North West Top in Kerry led to this post of Aug 20. Bunsen reminds us that it's not just summits that are there for us to enjoy, but also the valleys and glens in between - and the post also includes a useful heather/bracken alert for the unsuspecting hillwalker.
As I started out, mist was descending from the south over the col between Baurtregaum and Caherconree down into Derrymore Glen. Baurtregaum NW was coming in and out of view.
I followed the rocky track into Derrymore Glen (along the west side of the river) from the Dingle Way to the North. Kept going south until almost reaching the largest lake towards the head of the glen where it is easy to step across the multiple shallow, narrow streams and head north-eastwards to reach this subsidiary top.
Crossing the streams further north would be more difficult as they have cut ravines and there is a deep cutting stream flowing out of the col between this top and the Scragg spur to the north east.
Upon reaching BNW, having completed my sole objective on this evening outing and with thick mist above the 700 metre mark I had the choice of retracing my steps back to the beautiful glen or finding a route back down to the north.
Reaching for Adrian Hendroff's book on Dingle I noted his suggestion of heading north east to point 657, marked as Scragg on the OS (a nice viewpoint in its own right), then north/north west down the steep slope of Scragg. With hindsight, I really don't think this is a good way down. As Hendroff notes (though I would rather caution), the lower reaches of the northern slope of Scragg, (as is the case seemingly pretty much with the lower northern reaches of all the Slieve Mish), are heavily cloaked in very deep heather, grass, and worse still, bracken. It is quite difficult to safely make your way down as the high bracken in particular conceals a multitude of ankle snaring hollows, rocks and crevices. At the very least, this should not be attempted without sticks. I was very happy to have exited this "wouldn't wish on my worst enemy" purgatory and safely find my way back to the Dingle Way.
That said, the glen itself is a marvellous place to visit, so if I had my time again, I might have tried to get back down the steep slope towards the larger lake and enjoy the views of the cascading streams down the walls of the glen in the swirling mist.
Photo: Bunsen7, BNW from Scragg to the north east
SOUTH: Purgatorial trek
Although the views can be heavenly, Coolcurtoga in the Paps, with its clinging heather, dangerous rocks and ankle-traps is proof of purgatorys existence, writes Pepe.
Pepe on Coolcurtoga:
Whats intriguing about Coolcortoga is that when gazed up at from the main Cork-Killarney road it appears to have two trig stones, about 100 metres apart, in the summit area.
Pepé stepped out of his car in Glenflesk and engaged in a bout of head-scratching, wondering where to start from. A helpful local advised him not to go up from there: Too much heather. Go east the main Cork road from the vi ... ... Click here ...
EAST: Lug's a drag
After climbing some of Ireland's most iconic mountains, scottyplusone finds an ascent of Lugnaquilla a bit tedious.
scottyplusone on Lugnaquilla, (Log na Coille):
I wasn't overly enthusiastic about this climb. Perhaps i was still on a high from S. Donard. I found it tedious. We came from Fentons pub. It was the third of the four peaks we were completing and my least favourite. But as I was once told, a climb cant be judged on the climb alone, its the experience... and that day neither myself or plus one were in good form. I think we were tired after a busy ... ... Click here ...
EAST: Measure for measure
Summery surveying shenanigans in Wicklow, as march-fixer took simon3 and his on-loan Trimble to tackle the biggest question of our times: just how much prominence does Brockagh SE Top have? This and other mind-benders were contemplated on the way up to Tonelagee's SE Top, before a slightly more exploratory descent along a long-abandoned miners' track contouring the ridge with a bit of bracken thrashing at the end. [ED: Yes, it's easy to mock the exactitude - I see a group in Britain doing similar have now wryly responded by officially calling themselves Pedantic :-) . However it was Brockagh that was the main target because of the suspiciously low 32m figure given for the height. This came from estimation by looking at contours. Were the real figure less than 30 then Brockagh would cease to be an Arderin. It turned out that the prominence was 33m so Brockagh remains on the list. See info elsewhere in this newsletter. You either believe in measuring to ascertain lists or you believe in guesswork.]
march-fixer on Data Mining Trip
Considering the expected high temperatures we set out reasonably early. We wanted to check the high points and col heigh| walk, Len: 11.9km, Climb: 493m, Area: Brockagh Mountain SE Top, Wicklow (Irela ... Click here ...
EAST: Berries & bugs
In search of Fraughan Berries on Cloghernagh in Wicklow, Bunsen 7 had some unwelcome company in the form of horseflies.
Bunsen7 on Cloghernagh, (Clocharnach):
Apparently the best time of year to pick fraughan berries is late July. I wouldn't have known what these were had it not been for the name Fraughan Rock Glen, an offshoot of the main Glenmalure valley that sits north of Clohernagh. I suppose I come from City stock.
I'd never really looked for them, but I happened across a few yesterday very close to the famed hanging valley as I took myself up ... ... Click here ...
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Volunteering for 2021: Strengthening the MountainViews Committee
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Quite apart from programmers, MV's progress can also use help from
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Irish Peaks, Mountaineering Ireland’s excellent publication, records Maumtrasna as a ‘sprawling plateau, adorned with steep sided corries and shapely spurs… a mountain landscape that merits exploration’. On Tuesday the 3rd of August 2021 I decided to see for myself. I wasn’t disappointed.
Map of route.
The walk begins at a high point overlooking Lough Mask and follows a well-defined path to Lough Nadirkmore. On a fine day, such as it was, I paused a while, just to take a moment to consider how lucky I was to have this beautiful spot all to myself, before setting off and up a steep ascent to a col below Buckaun.
The corrie surrounding Lough Nadirkmore
From there I headed west along the narrow ridge, which soon opened up to reveal the wide expansive plateau. The ground is a little broken but navigation is easy. Three cairns mark the route to the broken Trig point at 673m. Oddly, this is not the highest point. 681m is 1km to the south west and, for me and other pedantic folk, you’ll find 682m about 400m further west. [ED, this is interesting information that suggests that the trig pillar may not be the the highest point and it should be checked out using surveying equipment- until then however MV will continue to use the trig pillar as the top]
Before heading down the long south eastern ridge to the finish point, I stayed a while to take in the wild and beautiful surroundings and to also remember a tragic event that took place in 1882, almost 140 years ago, in the townland of Maumtransna, when five members of a single family were brutally murdered. It was tragic for all manner of reasons, not least because of the how families and people well known to each other split, some becoming accusers and others accused, and not only because this tiny little poverty-stricken area became the focus of the western world’s media, as it was then, and the subject of a truly astonishing miscarriage of justice that foreshadowed others in more in modern times. No, the reason it was truly tragic was because, we can now say with absolute certainty, that one of the three people hanged, Myles Joyce, was entirely innocent of the crime.
As I descended the ridge to Skeltia, above the townland, I thought about the injustice of it all and recalled the words written by Jarlath Waldron in his book Maamtrasna – The Murders and the Mystery, the definitive work on the subject:
On the scaffold, his arms were pinioned, his legs strapped – he could no longer fight. The only weapon of defence left to him was his voice. As long as breath was left in his body, this he used with every fibre of his being – to tell the world it was wrong. He was about to meet his God. Him he did not fear, his shouted prayer was for his wife and his children. “Go bhfoire Dia ar mo bhean agus mo chuigear clainne – may God help my wife and my five children.” …From the quicklime grave near Galway Cathedral his cry echoes still.
-- Adam Grennan
Piece first published in The Rambler, magazine of the Irish Ramblers Club, by kind permission.
A place for those interested in Challenge Walks
Group pic at the Fei Sheehy
The Fei Sheehy Challenge, a multi-day event with participants crossing all (or some, if preferred) of the Comeraghs, Galtees and Knockmealdowns, took place from August 13th-15th. This has become a favourite fixture in the hillwalking calendar since its institution in 2014, and the organisers deserve endless credit for both the creation of such a respected event and for managing to keep it going in a safe manner during this pandemic period (when many other challenge walks have had to be cancelled).
This year the Challenge was in aid of the Native Woodland Trust https://www.nativewoodlandtrust.ie/ and the Mend The Mountain Fund, and both these entities will receive €2,715.50 as a result.
A few words from organiser Gerard Sheehy:
There’s no doubt in my mind that those who take part in difficult challenging walks are masters-level athletes, recreational or not, living their best life on their own terms. They choose what’s difficult, extend themselves, and deal with the aches and pains. Our very own Olympics, for the year that’s in it.
We get a tremendous amount of goodwill from within and beyond the hillwalking community and we greatly appreciate that. I just pull it all together but there are many (many) contributions from a broad spectrum of people and businesses.
Congratulations to Galtee Walking Club on being crowned All-Ireland Hillwalking Club Champions in 2021. Probably a year in the planning, because that’s what it takes, so well deserved.
The Trailblazers do their stuff every year and it is fitting that they should take away the Epic Effort Award - 2021. Their continued support, the work that they do in promoting this event, the walks they put on to bring new blood to the event every year and they had two walkers this year who took in the Seven Seven Challenge walk a few days before our event. Also, if I tempt folk by making the walks more difficult than they already are, someone in that group will give it a go.
I love what we do because it’s a great leveller and there are no barriers to entry, other than being able to navigate and look after yourself. Each year someone blows my mind with an exceptional performance. One such person is Joan (Neill) and, after a few years of not being able to take part for injury reasons etc., did the three days. Thus becoming the most senior person to do that. Bualadh Bos.
Well done Steven Forde (ulsterpooka on MV) on doing every day of the challenge, for the last eight years.
-- Report Peter Walker using material from Gerard Sheehy.
Reports of many of the Challenge Walks and indeed news, blogs and more - can be found on the newly created page . . . CHALLENGE WALKS NEWS, REPORTS, BLOGS & MORE . . .
You should be able to find this link easily off the main Challenge Walks Page.
Another new feature that's closely related to Challenge Walking and other services provided by MountainViews is our new page listing Irish Compleatists of the Scottish Munros. We could use some recent compleaters reports for this!
See some more info below on this new feature.
One of the glories of summer and early autumn is seeing hillsides vibrantly coloured with blooming heather. Most varieties found in Ireland flower from June or July through till September or October. We have three types of heather that are widespread throughout the island, as well as several other varieties that are restricted to certain regions or rare.
You may be happy just to admire them for their beauty, but if you are interested in identifying them, it’s probably best to familiarise yourself with the three widespread varieties and then keep a look out for the rarer ones when you are walking in the right areas.
More subtly coloured is ling (Calluna vulgaris), also simply called heather, whose smaller flowers can vary in colour from white through pink to magenta. Both of these plants like acidic soils and grow on heaths or moorland.
The third widespread variety is cross-leaved heath (Erica tetralix), which tends to prefer wetter, boggy spots. It may be tricky to distinguish from bell heather as its flowers are pink, sometimes a deep pink approaching purple, but the clusters of flowers are only at the tip of the stem, whereas bell heather has flowers along a greater length of the stem. Also cross-leaved heath has leaves in whorls of four around the stem, whereas bell heather has whorls of three leaves.
A rarer heath plant which you’ll only find in Cos. Galway and Mayo is St. Dabeoc’s heath (Daboecia cantabrica). I’ve come across it in Connemara growing along the southern shore of Killary Harbour and also inland near An Teach Dóite / Maam Cross. The flowers are pink to magenta and remind me of tiny Chinese lanterns. St. Dabeoc’s heath is a member of very exclusive ‘club’ known as the ‘Lusitanian flora’ – a group of 15 plants which are native to Ireland and the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) but not to Britain.
Once you’ve found these heathers, you’ll have caught me up. I’m now keeping an eye out for Mackay’s heath (also in the Lusitanian flora), Dorset heath and Irish or Mediterranean heath, all of which are only found in Ireland near the west and north-west coast.
Sadly, there have been wildfires in several areas of Ireland this year, including Killarney National Park and the Mourne Mountains. The impact of these fires on habitats, wildlife and tourism were highlighted by Helen Lawless, Access & Conservation Officer of Mountaineering Ireland in the Summer 2001 edition of Mountain Log. In July my wife and I visited Howth on three successive days and found gorse fires still smouldering on large areas of the Ben of Howth (mountainviews.ie/summit/1046/) even after a torrential downpour. Fire crews were struggling to contain these fires and we saw that fire-breaks had been newly made below Howth Summit to prevent fires spreading.
Fortunately we were still able to enjoy some fantastic walks in areas unaffected by the fires around the Nose of Howth (the very eastern tip of the peninsula) and from Howth Summit down to the Baily Lighthouse and back. The flora in these areas is truly stunning. It made us realise how precious, but also how fragile, such heathland environments are.
Logainmneacha / Place-Names
Binn Fraoigh, ‘peak of heather’, is the name of two separate peaks in the Twelve Bens, Co. Galway. One is anglicised as Benfree and has the alternative name Luggatarriff (mountainviews.ie/summit/216/). The other, located N of Kylemore Lake, has the alternative name Altnagaighera (mountainviews.ie/summit/1444/).
A very similar name is Binn an Fhraoigh / Binnafreagh, a cliff near Fanad Head in Co. Donegal.
Coolfree Mountain (mountainviews.ie/summit/684/) is on the eastern edge of the Ballyhoura Mountains in Co. Limerick. It is situated in the townland of Coolfree, whose name is from Ir. Cúil Fhraoigh, ‘nook of heather’.
Fráech, ‘heather’, was used as a forename in early Ireland. The best-known bearer of the name was a legendary handsome Connacht warrior, who had his own tale in the Ulster Cycle, Táin Bó Fráich. Fráech won the heart of Finnabair, daughter of Queen Medb and King Ailill. He is remembered in the place-name Carnfree, Co. Roscommon, which means ‘Fráech’s cairn’.
Knockanore in North Kerry, overlooking Ballybunion and the mouth of the Shannon (mountainviews.ie/summit/984/), is officially called Cnoc an Fhómhair in Irish, ‘hill of the harvest or autumn’ (www.logainm.ie/1165819.aspx). If anybody knows why, it would be good to hear from you, because the folklore of the hill usually passes over this, focussing on an ancient battle. Fómhar is the same word which crops up (pun intended!) in Meán Fómhair, the Irish name of September, meaning ‘middle of autumn’, and in Deireadh Fómhair, October, ‘end of autumn’. These are relics of an early Irish calendar in which the year was divided into four seasons before the introduction of months and autumn or the harvest season was reckoned from Lúnasa (1st August nowadays) to Samhain (1st November).
Incidentally, our Polish-speaking members will not need reminding that September is the season of heather because their name for the month, wrzesień, comes from wrzos, ‘heather’.
The MountainViews ANNUAL, brought out in 2021.
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For 2020 the Annual has 64 pages in 18 Articles about walking on hills, mountains, coast and islands here and abroad. Some working around Covid19, some despite it, some for the future.
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MountainViews Surveying and Changes to Lists.
Most MountainViews lists are based on the geography of places: height and prominence. Unlike some earlier lists this removes subjectivity, but there is a cost. The onus is then on us to establish the height and prominence of summits to determine whether or not they are in a given list.
So for example the Arderins are summits with height of at least 500m and a prominence or drop of at least 30m.
Since July of this year, we’ve made measurements for nearly 30 summits and there have been a couple of surprises.
West Cork Mountains
Becomes a Vandeleur-Lynam
Carnanelly West Top
Demoted from Arderin
West Cork Mountains
So there are now 405 Arderins down from 406 and there are now 274 Vandeleur-Lynams up from 273.
We expect more adjustments one way or the other.
Rest of the changes
But first a, question. Below are the recent detail changes that MV has made to summit information. However is it really momentous that for instance Slieve Gallion in the Sperrins has now been measured at 526.6 as opposed to the value we used to show of 528? This doesn't affect Slieve Gallion's membership of any of our lists. So the question is should we in future show recently surveyed detail changes to height or prominence in the newsletter where they don't have significant consequences? Comment in our forums or email admin as below.
MountainViews now has 9653 comments about 1666 different
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major ways to visit each
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opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a place, not so many on summits, however
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