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The Summit

MountainViews newsletter for guestuser

Jan 2021


  International PIC OF THE MONTH

NORTH, SOUTH, WEST, EAST, BRITAIN Route ideas and places to go.

Call for material for our ANNUAL Articles, photo stories, notes welcome for our Annual, due out Feb 2021.

Sněžka An ascent of Sněžka, a summit in the Czech Republic and Poland with some rival architecture.

Challenge Despite the paucity of immediate events, we can still think about the future.

Two videos featured this month from gerrym and Greg McEntee.

Improvements to website and data. More subareas for Mournes, Dublin, Wicklow. Mapping trial.

 Picture of the month

This view of Lough Shannagh is from near Doan, Mournes
For original comment, click here.

Photo: Aidy

 International Picture of the Month

View in the Monts Du Cantal
For original comment, click here.

Photo: David-Guenot

In short: Discovery

Featured Track of the Month
Tracey Emin's Pigs
This month's selection has simon3 finding more relatively hidden corners of County Dublin on the apparently popular slopes of Carrickgollogan, wending various loops around and about the hill. [ED note on a more recent trip only empty pig stys were to be seen .. but then this was after Xmas]
simon3 on Carrickgollogan and Rathmichael Stroll
Main walk Start: 14:01, End: 16:00, Duration: 1h59m, Length: 7.1km, Ascent: 239m, Descent: 270m
Places: Start at O23259 21282, Carrickgollogan, end at Start (statistics such as Ascent or Length etc should be regarded as approximate. Duration depends on the speed of the person making the track)

Peak, Pigs, Fairies and Frame
This hill stroll starts from Rathmichael Wood car park. There's two parts, a longer higher part that goes uphill and works its way to the top of Carrickgollogan and a shorter part that visit the rath of Rathmichael Hill to the NE of the car park.
The route goes uphill towards the lead mines chimney and the goes south past the other carpark eventually arriving at the granite lump that is Carrickgollogan hill.
For variety on the way north and back we took a couple of excursions to the east including a path that went past a small pig farm.

Eventually you reach the road again and can get back easily to the car park for part 2 of the walk which circles the rath.

In passing you will encounter an unusual ornament entitled "dlr framed views".

dlr framed views

dlr is Dun Laoghaire Rathdown but what exactly the view is wasn't clear to us since it appear to frame a fairly nondescript piece of the outer suburbs not quite centred on Killiney Hill. But hey, what do we know about art .. we don't like Tracy Emin either.
The route wends its way back to the car park.

NORTH: Distinctive, steep-sided peak
With its summit tors, Slieve Binnian is a most distinctive peak in the SE Mournes, writes markmjcampion.
group on Slieve Binnian, (Sliabh Binneáin):
With its summit tors, Slieve Binnian is a most distinctive peak in the SE Mournes. There are fine sea views; the Cooleys and many peaks and valleys of the Mournes are often up for close inspection too. SE. Park at Carrick Little carpark at J34519 21890, room for 10-15 cars. If busy, park discreetly on the roadside nearby. Walk up the farm track, cross a stile and follow the Mourne Wall NW, the gr ... ... Click here ...

NORTH: The Mourne Supremacy
Your track reviewer continues to be thankful for the nearby presence of the Mournes, conscious that he'll desperately need their calorie-deleting properties once the festive period is over. Earlier in December he enjoyed a day of ridiculously benign winter conditions on a Sunday shlep with his regular compadres, the sort of itinerary demonstrating the huge possibilities of the range. We went over Commedagh, Bearnagh and Meelmore, but we could easily have tacked on Donard, and/or Meelbeg, or gone up the Devils Coachroad...
Peter Walker on Training Day
Looking from Hares Gap to Commedagh and DonardIt's seriously handy having an outdoor resource such as the Mournes, e| walk, Len: 14.1km, Climb: 1070m, Area: Slieve Corragh, Mourne Mountains (Irela ... Click here ...

NORTH: A distinctive gem.
Doan in the Mournes is a quite distinctive hill with beautiful views over Lough Shannagh, especially when seen in the magic hour, writes Aidy.
Aidy on Doan, (Dún Maol Chobha):
On the way to Doan, from Ott car park, I loved the view over Lough Shannagh from the col between Carn Mountain and Slieve Loughshannagh. ... Click here ...

WEST: Achill's conical, stand-alone coastal peak.
An updated short summary on Achill’s iconic Slievemore, which offers magnificent views, reports markmjcampion.
group on Slievemore, (An Sliabh Mór):
Slievemore is a v distinctive, almost conical peak in the N of Achill Island. It's a steep-sided mix of grass and rock with no major difficulties although parts of the sharp ridge overlook plummeting cliffs, which could prove dangerous in bad weather. There are potentially magnificent views of Croaghan, the Inishkea islands and Belmullet peninsula, the Nephins and all the hills south to Mweelrea. ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH-WEST: In The Reek Midwinter
Continuing the MV committee tradition of doing daft things on the Winter Solstice Onzy and friends have braved some thoroughly manky weather to complete the classic Eastern Reeks traverse (Cruach Mhor to the Devil's Ladder), a fine effort given conditions and the lack of daylight. On their return into the gloaming they encountered some rather optimistic lads still gazing longingly up the not-that-desirable frontage of the Ladder asking not-that-experienced questions...a salutary reminder that the encouraging uptick in hillwaking participation this year has some potential downsides.
Onzy on Eastern Reeks in brutal weather
Repeat of a walk I last did in 2015 in rather different conditions. In 2015 it took just 5 hours while the 2020 walk wa| walk, Len: 14.8km, Climb: 1239m, Area: Cruach Mhór, MacGillycuddy's Reeks (Ire ... Click here ...

WEST: Steep-sided rocky highpoint of eastern Bens ridge.
Bencorr is the highest summit of the Glencoaghan Horseshoe in the Twelve Bens and sits proudly and gloriously above Lough Inagh, says markmjcampion in an updated short summary.
group on Bencorr, (Binn an Choire):
This eastern Ben is the highest summit of the Glencoaghan Horseshoe and sits proudly above Lough Inagh. It's slopes are steep and largely quartzite with no shortage of optional easy scrambling. Wonderful views of the Inagh valley, Maamturks, S Conamara and Mweelrea. SW. Park in open country near L80535 48860. Head for the S ridge of Derryclare via easy grassy slopes. Follow a feint track to the s ... ... Click here ...

Featured summit comment
Normal walk up Dublin Neighbour turns into Ethereal Christmas Cairnscape!

Slightly out of the range of dates for comments, but this pic shows us just what the weather can do despite global warming and covid.

Walked up to Seahan in December from the forest path coming up from Ballinascorney. Walked through the forest and saw a herd of Shetland ponies coupled with a larger Horse of unknown breed. After getting over the fence, (I do not recommend this route!) I got to the main track which runs parallel with the Dodder/Bohernabreena reservoir below, rapidly passing out routing fairweather walkers who had evidently not bargained for the encroaching mist, or gods help them, actual height of the mountains.

At this stage, there was almost no sound, and the corpses of cut down trees which garnish the ground cast ghoulish shadows worthy of any great war reenactment.

As the mist grew fatter, I heard a strange noise piercing the mountainside, and my imagination summoned Demons of ancient myth from Fomorians to Fir Bolg. I also knew I was now a star of a 'think we're alone now' cover. However I realized what the unwelcome sight was: a solo Quad-biker who felt utterly entitled to churn up the trackway (which is already in a sorry state), though he was actually polite - I resisted the urge to pull a Braveheart on him for his environmental sacrilege, nonetheless I feel this should not be encouraged. Not long after, I noticed ice sheeting the rivulets of water which trickled off the hillside, and finally I reached the snowline, where layered feathers of the North Pole's best transformed the scene into a soundless moonscape. Stalagmitic daggers hung off the nearby bogland, and I noticed a sculpture of ice somebody had erected atop some bracken nearby - to which I added an axelike shard of rock from nearby. I pressed on and, only 100 metres away, the Cairn emerged from the mist like the prow of a ship near some far-flung glacier.

I stood on the Cairn (which has centuries on the Pyramids and was already ancient when the Romans first conquered our Welsh neighbours). The so-called 'Ava's monument' on top had been blasted by ice and yet there was almost no wind. Indeed the scene was a churchlike silence to which I can do justice only by encouraging repeat walks by others when similar conditions allow and align. Tried being smart and covering a new route on the way back as the darkness rose-all I will say is, don't do that. Anyway. Some say the ancients believed these monuments were a gateway to another world. After my experience, I can't say as they were wrong.

Photo: Ronan119, "Impromptu ice sculpture atop snow-blasted bracken near 5,300 year old Megalithic cairn."

SOUTH: Not the cream of hills.
While Milk Hill in the Comeraghs may be a relatively simple bag and offers fine views west and east, it is quite an unremarkable top, writes Colin Murphy.
group on Milk Hill, (Cnoc an Bhainne):
Go to the forest entrance at S22452 09704. there is room here for a few cars. Walk down the forest track across the road, crossing a ford and follow the track to a T-junction, turn left and continue to track's end and you can see open ground. Continue directly easy up the heathery summit, which is a steepish in parts. There is an old wooden cross erected in a pile of stones to the north west of t ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Small but tough
Despite its relatively small size, unrelenting rain, heather and tough terrain made for a difficult ascent of Mount Foley in Glenbeigh, writes markmjcampion.
markmjcampion on Mount Foley:
I also parked near the viaduct at approx. V58197 88424 but instead of crossing the viaduct I followed a track up to a long-abandoned cottage. I accessed this by walking from my car back towards the viaduct but just before it there was a gate on the left which I jumped over. I followed the track to the cottage and then struck off in a SW direction. The going was easy for a while but the top half o ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: A quick one-two
Blentasour in the Comeraghs, although not a great Carn, can be one top in a convenient one-two triangular walk, reports Colin Murphy.
Colin Murphy on Bleantasour Mountain, (Cnoc Bhléantas Odhar):
I did this in conjunction with Milk Hill, which made for an enjoyable 2.5 hr relatively easy walk. See Milk Hill page for starting point. From Milk Hill summit head SSW for about 1.8km, mostly over shortish heather and long grass, the terrain boggy in places. From the col the ascent to Blentasour is a mere 35m. Two substantial cairns mark the otherwise unremarkable summit area, although they are n ... ... Click here ...

EAST: Treat 'em mean, keep 'em Keadeen
Relatively quiet by Wicklow standards, march-fixer has had a wander up the oft-paired VL of Keadeen Mountain and the Arderin of Carrig Mountain. This is a fine morning or afternoon dander treading from forests to fine open heathy country, good for a lazy day or as part of a less lazy day. The route itself doesn't conveniently link to anything else, but there are plenty of other minor and major summits nearby.
march-fixer on Keadeen Mountain Walk
Finding a quiet spot at weekends can be a challenge. Parked in the forest enterance at Ballinabarny Gap. Only a couple o| walk, Len: 9.1km, Climb: 315m, Area: Carrig Mountain, Wicklow (Ireland) Carri ... Click here ...

EAST: A ringside seat
An evening ascent of Prince William’s Seat by Simon3 is rewarded with a fine view of the ring of Dublin Bay and the city’s glittering lights.
simon3 on Prince William's Seat:
Here's another pic from the summit, this time at the height of Covid19 and in the depths of winter. ... Click here ...

BRITAIN: Common, and Muck
Mid Wales has a lot of rufty tufty upland country without many mountains asserting particular dominence. The Abergwesyn Common is one such area, and fergalh has visited the starkly incongruous (where did they get the stones?) Druidic cairns atop Drygarn Fawr, the most prominent (statistically speaking) summit hereabouts.
Fergalh on Drygarn Fawr:
This summit is in an extermely remote area with very little features and is flat wet and boggy in all directions. In Wales its is well known as it is used for Elite Troops training and their navigation skills with a compass and maps and we came upon a small group who naturally moved a little faster than us ! Cloud and fog is an issue here regularly, but fortunately we had a good day weather wise ... Click here ...

BRITAIN: Faded seaside glamour...
The huge limestone headland of the Great Orme rears impressively above the old-fashioned seaside resort of Llandudno, and fergalh has spurned the tramway to the summit to make his way up under his own steam. The reward for the summiteer is a panorama of a huge length of the North Wales coast, and a large choice of ice creams or fish and chips after the descent.
Fergalh on Great Orme:
Parked at the car park for the Great Orme Country Park and a short walk behind the tram stop leads you to the white trig pillar. Like Snowdon you can always get the tram up ! ... Click here ...

BRITAIN: Llywelyn the Great
The Carneddau are the largest group of hills in Snowdonia, with more ground over 900m than the rest of England and Wales put together. fergalh visits the highest summit, Carnedd Llewellyn, Wales' second highest mountain, and is fairly impressed by what he encounters.
Fergalh on Carnedd Llewelyn:
From Carnedd Dyfydd we followed the ridge with steep drops either side it is unquestionably one of the finest walks in Wales and eventually we reached the second highest peak in Wales which is marked by a cairn ... Click here ...

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for recent month(s) later.

A place for those interested in Challenge Walking

January 2021 Newsletter

Challenge Information


“….Curiously though, the day was very different for many . . . all depending where the Challenge Walker was fortunate enough or (as seemed to be the rule of thumb for me) unfortunate enough, to welcome these savage showers. . . Down in the valleys - Happy Days! Yet atop Binn Bhriocáin - and mother of Jaysus the wind would split a flea!!” 

Excerpt from Maumturks 2016 by Jim Holmes

“....At the trig pillar on Greenane the temperature had climbed to 27 degrees and the descent to O’ Loughlins castle was over completely dry ground rather the more usual sea of mud reminiscent of a World War 1 battlefield”

Excerpt from the The Galtee Challenge 2018, JohnFitzgerald.

Great quotes from yearly reviews of Newsletters past....

But alas this January, our usual year's look back at the Calendar that was... well, is understandably as scarce as genuine chocolate on the "chocolate flavoured biscuits that used to adorn our treasured tins of Rover Biscuits each Christmas!

And yet, last August, Na Sléibhte Hillwalking Club and friends, managed with ease, to show how the Challenge Walk can indeed be hosted in a safe and restriction-friendly environment! In order for the only Challenge Walk to take place in 2020, no one was required to reinvent the wheel!! It simply took some common sense on the ground and The Fei Sheehy Challenge was once again its usual successful event!

"Any rain that fell during the walks was that lovely warm vertical stuff that you'd welcome on a muggy day. All-in-all a celebration of challenge hillwalking"

Gerard Sheehy, from The Fei Sheehy Challenge 2020.

Blackstairs Challenge, 2017

So what lies in store for the forthcoming season?? Well, there are green shoots definitely emerging...!

In the week when the ever popular Fei Sheehy Challenge all but sold out - Dublin based hillwalking club The Wayfarers have announced a provisional date for this year's Blackstairs Challenge. All going well, Saturday 28th August should see a wonderful outing where once again we set off up Mount Leinster and trace the Carlow / Wexford border up to the massive Blackstair Mountain and beyond!

The Fei Sheehy Challenge itself falls two weeks earlier on the 13th, 14th and 15th August 2021. Three mighty mountain ranges over three mighty days.... a lot of things have to fall neatly into place for the Challenge Hillwalker looking to complete the full Challenge.

Two months earlier, Saturday the 19th June 2021, is the scheduled date for certainty one of the tougher Walks on the Challenge Walks Calendar. Proudly hosted by The Irish Ramblers Hillwalking Club - The Lug Walk packs in an ascent of 2300m (and more often than not - way more!). But it's the thumper of the 52 kilometres that doesn't necessarily fall on soft or presented track that throws the curve-ball!! Mileage wise, it's a grand 37 in old money.... or new money, depending on which side of the Brexit pond you're on! [ED: it's not clear that this or others are definitely going ahead -- watch the MV space]

At time of going to press, it is not without surprise that unfortunately these are the only dates received so far, for inclusion on the MountainViews Challenge Walks Calendar 2021 and of course even these dates can’t be carved in stone!

I suppose it's a little similar to the Selection Box I was given just this week..... the Curly Wurly is way, way smaller! Two bites barely!

And don't go giving me the whole Wagon Wheels story..... in those days our hands were smaller and our eyes were bigger! No!

Nope, coming from an age when the aforementioned tins of Rover Biscuits were at least filled to the brim - we were more than well-acquainted with how to judge both "size and volume" AND "near....and far away"!!  We were the children of decimalisation for heaven's sake! So when I say I have issue with "fighting weight" of the Curly Wurly..... I know I'm totally correct Q.E.D.

No longer is the leviathan of chocolate chew the length of the packaging - nope, now it's barely the width! That said, it's still the chewy dreaminess of old!

So while the Challenge Walks Calendar of 2021 will no doubt be much more downsized - never will I doubt that whatever events do manage to take place - there'll be the reliable chew that the ever-eager Challenge Walker will be able to get their teeth into!

Onwards and Upwards, Boys and Girls,

Keep Safe and Enjoy your Day!

Jim Holmes.


The Fei Sheehy Challenge 2021

The Blackstairs Challenge 2021


Click here for the Challenge Walk Calendar to remember what we will be getting back to (eventually).


Call for Material for Annual

View last ANNUAL

Call for the Annual 2020 - to be published in Feb 2021
The Background. For the last five years we have brought out a PDF style magazine. We plan to do the same this, "The MountainViews ANNUAL 2020". We are looking for feature length illustrated articles. And photos. And shorter items for "Your Walking Highlights of 2020".

For the highlights we are mainly looking for experiences in Ireland though as last time we will include some adventures abroad - your short notes not necessarily your crafted paragraphs. (Note, we are not looking for your long notes. Either give us short notes or a longer, crafted article.)

We will consider any areas of interest to hillwalkers in Ireland, for example articles on what we did under lockdown, Challenge Walking (both organised and individual), Way Walking (ie walking Way Marked Ways), Summiteering, Family Walking, Gear, Flora & Fauna, Holiday Walking, Scrambling, Coastal or Island walking, things you may see on the hills etc are all welcome as are new ideas. We welcome articles from people who are starting out hillwalking, or experienced or professionals etc.

Copydate: Ideally by Sun 17th Jan 2021.

If you are thinking of contributing or would like to discuss topics etc feel free to contact or have an article

at admin -at-
If there more material comes in than there is space for, then we will try to include it in later newsletters. - David Guenot's Blog

Our esteemed French member, David Guenot's blog now includes a list of summits in the Central Massif of France.

David-Guenot on A new, exhaustive list for Massif Central
For those who might be interested, here is a list I posted on my blog: It includes all +1500m summits of Massif Central (France) with a prominence of 20m or more. I have started working on this list during the first lockdown and can now share its final version after having completed it between ... ... Click here ...

Volunteering for 2021: Strengthening the MountainViews Committee

Currently we have a number of officers on the committee such as chairperson, secretary etc. We really could use some further committee members to achieve our strategic goals and spread the load.
Position In Brief
Ordinary members For those taking an interest in the MV committee or indeed committees in general we can also use some further "regular" committee members without a specific role. There are many smaller quite finite projects that might suit regular members.
Publicity MountainViews is a great resource based on over 1300 people's contributions over 18 years. Great that is if you have heard of it. And that's where we could use some practical publicity help.
The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth Quite apart from programmers, MV's progress can also use help from people who can really follow through on tasks like creating lists, checking stats, researching place names or geology. Whether on the committee or not we value such people's contributions.

Contact us at admin -at-

The MountainViews ANNUAL, brought out in 2020.

We published the annual in Feb 2020, before Covid hit us.
60 pages in 13 Articles about walking on hills, mountains and islands here and abroad.

The ANNUAL  (Please save and read in a PDF viewer.) (Hi-res version.)

(Obtain PRINTED VERSION - Euro 16)


Videos this month:

MV user gerrym goes bivvying on the margins of the Antrim plateau
Not hillwalking in the slightest, but a remarkable feat from the Slieve League cliffs, courtesy of the flying Greg McEntee

Videography by Peter Walker.

Sněžka or Śnieżka

Sněžka or Śnieżka


Sněžka or Śnieżka (in Czech and Polish respectively, Schneekoppe in German) is a mountain on the border between the Czech Republic and Poland, the most prominent point of the Silesian Ridge in the Krkonoše mountains. At 1,603.3 metres (5,260 ft), its summit is the highest point in the Czech Republic.  Fergal Hingerty (member FergalH)  visited this place and here is his report.


Happiness is not at the top of the mountain, but in how to climb.



The dawn broke on a beautiful sunny day in July and we left the town of Szklarska Poręba at 5 am to head for the Polish side of the Mountain. My Polish Mountain expert Marta had advised that an early start was essential to avoid the crowds and who was I to argue as I usually defer to the experts on such matters.


We arrived at Karpacz at six am and got ready for the climb after ensuring all gear was ready and present for the day. The chair lift is also here for those who are lazy and are happy to queue but we were happy to walk. There is an admission fee for the National Park (Karkonoski park Narodowy) and for the parking in a machine. We paid for parking for the car for the day and headed over to the ticket office , however it was not open as we were to early

Karkonoski Park, Narodowy

So we started to head up the mist laden hill and the climb had begun.

We started from Rozdroże Łomnickie and headed up the well laid track marked yellow , the height here was 648 Metres and a long steep climb ensured until we reached the first hostel Strzecha Akademicka. We stopped here for a short break and then followed the track marked yellow around the side of the mountain until we passed by Kopa where the chair lift stops at a height of 1377 metres. From this Point you follow the Black track until Dom Śląski Schronisko Górskie


From here we caught our first glimpse of mighty Śnieżka and the next hostel at just below the final ascent. We followed the well laid out track and arrived at hostel Dom Śląski Schronisko Górskie at around 09.30 and got a glimpse of the final ascent with no one on it. I was advised this is a near impossibility normally, so it is clear that the early start helped.


We were at this point on the  border with Czech Republic, there was two ways to go up the mountain one steep and one not so steep, so we climbed the steep one which was marked black and resolved to come down via the less steep one. After a short climb of less than thirty minutes we arrived at a fog laden summit. The highest point of the Giant Mountains and the Czech Republic is 1603 Metres and is shared by both Poland and Czech Republic as the border runs down the centre.

This mountain suffers from heavy snow and strong wind especially in the winter and the name in Polish roughly translate as ‘snowball’. Today though it was heavy fog we had to contend with.

Here it is a largely flat summit and dominated by three structures the ‘Polish Chalet’ which was built in a ‘science fiction’ style but has been badly damaged by wind. There was a monument at the top, a curiously shaped Czech Post Office (with one way in and one way out) and a very old wooden chapel called St. Lawrence’s chapel. After doing a tour and the ubiquitous photos at the marker for the highest point something was needed. But what ? ah yes of course…Piwo (beer)

Chapel at top.

We then went down around twenty metres to the small shop/cafe on the Czech republic side for a quick Piwo (beer) to celebrate. On the Czech side the cable car that comes from Pec pod Sněžkou comes practically to the summit and can carry 250 people an hour. Once we saw the crowds were starting to increase, we decided to head down.

We headed back up to the summit and took the less steep route marked blue down to the hostel Dom Śląski Schronisko Górskie. The crowds were starting to build here as well so we decided to continue on and followed the black route, soon there was a junction just after this hostel and we went straight on the track marked blue.


Hostel PTTK Samotnia

This route ensured we went towards the lake called Mały Staw and the wonderful hostel PTTK Samotnia beside it. A brief rest to take in the view of the lake and the fog capped mountains ensured and shortly afterwards we continued on down via the track marked blue until we arrived at Polana w Karkonoszach. From here we took the track marked green back to the starting point.

Most routes in the national parks are colour coded follow the colour to get to where you are going. It is common to change colours depending on the route you are going (see map for details naturally!) The markings are on trees or rocks every few yards which are especially useful in the snowy winters.


However there are park rangers around at all times and there are large fines if you wander off one of the many tracks. Furthermore as there are around 200 bears in the Polish mountains maybe the fines could be the least of your problems should you not obey the local regulations !

The route we took was 16.8 km and a total ascent of 951 metres over the day It took around five and a half hours. A most enjoyable climb but should you decide to go make sure you go early unless crowds are what you are after.


-- Fergal Hingerty.

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A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
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simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
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As members will know, for over a decade, has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... ... Click here ...
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Subareas being generated - repeat with updates

Above is a diagram of the subdivision of the Mournes into subareas. This is part of our bid to make the description of Irish mountain areas more granular. Since last month we have brought out new areas for Dublin and Wicklow. We have separated the Dublin Mountains from the Wicklow Mountains and created several subareas, now up on the website.
If you know the area and have suggestions, please do comment. For small changes, propose them for the summit(s) in question using the Propose Places Database Change | Names website feature. For large changes get in touch with admin -at- Nothing is irreversible.
The website is indebted to two volunteers: melohara and FergusMcGee, for the considerable work required to research and organise the summits into logical subareas.
Dublin and Wicklow have also been subdivided recently.

Mapping Experiment continues.

MountainViews has made use of a lot of mapping on the website since the system was redeveloped in 2012. However for various reasons such as the need for a mobile version and for various technical reasons a move is needed to newer methods of mapping.
As part of this effort we have been researching new ways of presenting maps. One trial has been to see if we could represent all of the tracks that MV members have put up in an area.

Above is what the trial revealed. We are learning the value of this sort of display. At a quick first take but it makes an interesting view of how people get to the Reeks.
A new volunteer Tim Redfern, is assisting with mapping. Temporarily, this link allows you to play with this type of mapping. See how people move around your local areas. (You need to zoom in to see the tracks) Suggestions welcome.

Arderins Photos Wanted - a repeat in good cause

Last month we mentioned that MV has agreed with MI (through its Hillwalking Committee) to promote the Arderins as the headline list of Irish mountains. We are looking for good photos for use in promoting them. Pictures usually need to show the mountain in the middle distance, in good weather. The Arderin(s) depicted may be only an Arderin or an Arderin / Vandeleur-Lynam.

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

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There were comments on the following places , Ballinacor Mountain, Bleantasour Mountain, Carrauntoohil, Conigar SW Top, Doan, Esknabrock, Kells Mountain, Kells Mountain East Top, Meenavally, Milk Hill, Mount Foley, Prince William's Seat, Slievecarran, Tomies Mountain, Tomies Mountain North Top
and these shared tracks Carrickgollogan, Dublin Ireland, Carrig Mountain, Wicklow Ireland, Coomnacronia, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, Cruach Mhór, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Curracahill, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Knocknabro West Top, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Prince William's Seat, Dublin Ireland, Prince William's Seat, Dublin Ireland, Ridge of Capard, Slieve Bloom Ireland, Sliabh an Iolair, Dingle West Ireland, Slieve Corragh, Mourne Mountains Ireland tracks were created.

Thanks to all 1410 who have ever contributed place or routes info and forums.

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Summary. MountainViews now has 10782 comments about 2744 different hills, mountains, island and coastal features out of the total in our current full list (2201 on island of Ireland). We want to get a good gps track showing each of the major ways to visit each of these places and summits in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have a short summary for every summit and island and coastal feature in Ireland. There's quite a few opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a place, not so many on summits, however lots of opportunities for islands and coastal features as we bring them out. We also have around 2700 shared GPS tracks, mostly in Ireland. Apart from a few popular areas, there is a need for more routes in many different areas. Plain shared tracks without descriptions are welcome however if you have time then do please add route descriptions with photos.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • Take care if parking and do not obstruct roads, lanes and field entrances to access by farm machinery, which can be large. Exercise your dog in parks or forests but avoid countryside or open hillside where they may worry sheep.
  • Report suspicious activity to the police forces, as below.
  • If your car is broken into in an upland area report it to the PSNI or Gardai as this will help them be aware of the issue and tackle it in future. Store the numbers. In Northern Ireland use the PSNI non-emergency number 0845 600 8000. In the Republic you can find the local Garda District HQs phone numbers at Specifically for the hotspot of Wicklow: the Garda Divisional Headquarters in Bray is 01 6665300.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report recreational quads in national park area (in which they are banned). They are also banned in the Mournes. For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. For the Mournes ring the PSNI (as above) or contact Mournes Heritage Trust. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have visited some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a place rating and also "Improve Grid Ref" for summits and other places.
  • If you find errors in the basic information about places such as in their names, their heights, county name etc please use the "Propose Places Database Change" option.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit or to a place so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as shared GPS tracks.
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  • ChallengeWalksIreland Visit the Challenge Walks Ireland page (jointly managed by MountainViews)

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