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The Summit

Monthly newsletter of for guestuser

January 2018



NORTH, SOUTH, WEST, EAST, SWEDEN, Route ideas and places to go.

Hillwalkers Winter Talks Program outlined for 2018. Camino, with a twist, shortly in Jan

Volunteering in 2018? We could use help on or off the committee. Some general help but also from geeks, from publicists and programmers.

MountainViews Annual Read below for how to contribute.

Beara-Breifne Way This extraordinary "Historical Challenge" of 500km celebrated here.

3 videos featured this month. kernowclimber/mcritchly, David Guenot, gerrym


MOUNTAINVIEWS: Hillwalkers' Winter Talks

Wednesday 17th January 2018 will see the anticipated resumption of the season's Walkers' Winter Talks Series as hosted by

There will be three talks in the period Jan to April 2018 held in Dublin. There will be the usual MountainViews Gathering and two other talks. As an innovation we will, where we can, arrange two speakers for each evening for a fuller occasion. As previously there will be plenty of time to meet other hillwalkers and members of MountainViews.

  • Camino Via de la Plata: less road walking.
    Wednesday, 17th Jan, 2018. 8pm.
    John Cruise, Camino Via de la Plata Talk
    The first of the Talks sees the welcome return of John Cruise who will present and speak on The Camino De La Plata. The Camino de Santiago is popular with many Irish walkers. In recent years the popular “Frances” Route has become even busier and much more crowded. However, Camino veteran John, presents how the quieter Camino Via De La Plata is a great, interesting alternative! Starting from Sevilla and heading Northwards trough the Iberian Peninsula the route passes through Aljucen and Salamanca before turning eastwards towards La Gudina and on to Santiago de Compostella.

    Jim Bradley on Belfast Walking Like most cities on the island of Ireland, Belfast has many local mountains and hills, full of possibilities and interest but perhaps less well know to some of us. We are delighted to welcome Jim Bradley the Partnership Manager of Belfast Hills Partnership to talk about places, routes and sights.

    Belfast is ringed with mountains and scenic spots.

  • Dermot Somers on Slieve Foye, Cooley Mountains.
    Friday 23rd Feb 2018. 7:30 for 8pm. MountainViews Gathering and Awards.

    Dermot Somers broadcaster and explorer will speak on "CROSS-COUNTRY: A VIEW FROM ABOVE" Dermot last spoke at the Winter Hillwalkers Talks in 2012 - we recall the superb talk so well tuned to the audience with great pleasure. 7.30 doors open, start 8pm sharp.

    Mountain Meitheal Volunteers.
    Mountain Meitheal
    This famous voluntary group who organise path repair, assist with land management and conservation have kindly agreed to give a short presentation on what they do.

    As usual there will an Awards ceremony for list completers and contributors to hillwalking or to

    There will an entry fee to this event. Last year the amount was Euro 8.

  • Weds, 11th April, 2018. 8pm. David Walsh on the Islands of Ireland

    MacDara's Island, Galway

    Our main speaker for this event, David Walsh, addressed Hillwalkers Winter Talks in 2015 to an audience of over 70 with a spellbinding account of visiting the islands of Ireland. Since then has with David's assistance added hundreds of islands to our pages, a total of 577.
    The Irish islands are of course a huge recreational resource for sea-kayakers, however some are reachable by walkers and their story is fascinating to anyone interested in the wild places of Ireland.

    While the main speaker will be David, MountainViews will briefly introduce the changes it has made to its support for islands and also the coastline features we include. These allow users to mark which islands (as distinct from summits on islands) they have visited, to describe places, to share GPS tracks and visualise everything together on a map, features that may interest boaters or sea kayakers.
These meetings are being organised by the MountainViews committee. Talks are held in the Lansdowne Hotel, 27 - 29 Pembroke Road, Dublin 4 unless otherwise stated. Entry is free unless otherwise stated. There is a collection. Directions here . The excellent bar facilities allow you to have a drink with other hillwalkers after the event. You can get a meal before the meeting also. Should you wish to stay overnight then please consider staying with the Lansdowne.

MOUNTAIN MEITHEAL: Mountain Meitheal are keen to find more people to help.

Mountain Meitheal make practical repairs to some of the more popular areas we walk on, using a voluntary community based approach. (More information at their website.)

**NOTE** There will be a presentation by Mountain Meitheal at our Feb 23rd meeting.

 Picture of the month

The Poisoned Glen

For original comment, click here.

Photo: Member mcrtchly took this great winter picture of the Poisoned Glen, Glenveagh Mountains, Co Donegal. Read the original comment for note about lens etc

In short: Discovery

A journey of 500km begins with a single step...
This month's selection is the first of a series of tracks uploaded by mlmoroneybb detailing days spent on the initial section of the Beara-Breifne Way (, a 500km route from the tip of the Beara peninsula to Blacklion on the border between Cavan and Fermanagh way to the north. This could be tackled as a single multi-week outing or piecemeal as is the case here, and is an interesting addition to Ireland's relatively small amount of long-distance multi-day paths.
Note: The Annual, due next month, will include a fuller article on this walk.

mlmoroneybb on The Beara-Breifne Way Day 1
Main walk Start: 09:00, End: 16:13, Duration: 7h12m, Length: 25.9km, Ascent: 883m, Descent: 907m
Places: Start at V50754 41865, end at V67962 46096 18km E from Start (statistics such as Ascent or Length etc should be regarded as approximate. Duration depends on the speed of the person making the track)

The Beara-Breifne Way is a 500 km walking route which goes from the tip of the Beara Peninsula at Dursey in Co. Cork to the Breifne area of Counties Leitrim and Cavan, following generally the line of the 17th century march of O’Sullivan Beare, the last great chieftain of the West Cork and South Kerry area

NORTH: Storm-lashed archipelago
Iain Miller visits the remote and stark Roan Inish, a low archipelago of five small islands off Donegal.
IainMiller on Roaninish, (Róninis): Roan Inish
Roan Inish (Roaninish) is a low lying storm lashed small archipelago comprising five main islands and a large collection of tidal skerries. The islands are reasonably remote being 4 KM from the nearest point on mainland Donegal and sitting in the huge coastal basin from Arranmore to Tormore Island to the south. Easiest access to the islands is from Port Noo and involves a 5 KM sea passage to arriv ... ... Click here ...

NORTH: Climbing Donegal’s twin-towers
An Bhuidéal is a marvellous 50 metre-high twin-headed tower of rock 300 metres off the coast, which provides as good a climbing challenge as you’ll find anywhere in Ireland, writes, IainMiller.
IainMiller on An Bhuidéal: Climbing An Bhuideal
An Bhuideal (The Bottle) is an iconic 50 metre high twin headed sea stack living 300 meters out to sea at the base of 250 meter high sea cliffs. Its remote location and close proximity to the skerrie chain immediately to the north of it enures it is well guarded from any approach by visitors. More information on An Bhuideal, CLICK HERE. It's impressive, if slightly scary location and the quality o ... ... Click here ...

NORTH: This one definitely stacks up
Dun Briste in Donegal is an iconic 50m-high sea stack that was only first scaled in 1990. IainMiller repeated that feat a couple of months ago.
IainMiller on Dún Briste: Climbing dun Briste
The first ascent by rock climbers was in May 1990 by three UK climbers who climbed a groove system up the north facing seaward face of the stack. The stack then waited 26 years for another ascent and off course for someone else to stand on its summit, we climbed Dún Briste on the 27th Aug 2016, read more about the ascent , ... ... Click here ...

Featured summit comment

A well worthwhile but neglected scramble
IainT, 13 Nov 2017 14:52:24

Want to get away from muck and wet grass at this time of year? Of course you do! So consider tackling rocks and slabs instead of sliding around in mud. To find out more about this challenging alternative to drenched mountainsides, read Iain T’s account of the stony Maamturks in his comment.

The quartzite slabs on the NE flank of Binn Mhairg make a good scramble, one of the best in the Maum Turks. They are reachable by traversing round from the Mam Ean track, pathless but largely grassy and nothing like as rough as much of the range. The scramble is long and quite serious as the slabs cover a huge chunk of hillside, but they never get too hard (Grade 2, I reckon) and there is pretty much always an easier way at any point. It's a pretty unfrequented corner so there is a fair bit of loose rock about, but the slabs themselves are pretty solid. From the summit it's easy to loop round over Binn Chaonaigh and drop back down to Mam Ean - rough, of course, but then this is the Turks!

SOUTH: Enjoying the Derry air
Derrygarriff in the Mangerton area is a very fine Carn with incredible views across a landscape sprinkled with loughs to the east and along Looscaunagh Valley to the north east, reports Colin Murphy.
group on Derrygarriff, (Doire Gharbh): Fine summit, easily reached.
There are access issues around Moll's Gap, so suggest starting at car park at V882790 and proceeding up the heathery slopes to Foardal - about 1km to the SE, before walking the 1.5km to the SW to Derrygarriff summit. This will require an ascent of about 200m from col, which is heather, long grass and a boggy in parts. An alternative is to make Derrygarriff part of a longer walk taking in six t ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: A thing of beauty
The great thing about the Peakeen Mountain area is that it offers the opportunity for baggers of two Arderins and Two Arderin Begs, all within close proximity, reports Colin Murphy.
group on Peakeen Mountain West Top: Fine views down Kenmare Bay
Wonderful views down Kenmare bay on a fine day. Be aware the ground below the summit is very boggy and pools of water abound. The best access is via the Kerry way from Gowlane (skirt Peakeen to the N). While access is possible from the Molls Gap road via the col between Peakeen W and spot height 525m: there are access issues to Derrygarriff to the west of Peakeen, so the western approach is prob ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Two "Shannon" Hills
The Shannon Hills are what we call the group of relatively low wooded hills a bit east of Limerick. Knockadigeen and Ballincurra are two of these, both just over 400m. Smaller places but well worth a visit if you like quiet and isolation. This shared track shows one way of doing both.
peter1 on Two Shannon Hills
Two small, easy hills linked together| walk, Len: 9.9km, Climb: 360m, Area: Ballincurra Hill, Shannon (Ireland) Ballincurra Hill, Knockadigeen Hill ... Click here ...

EAST: Highway to Kevin
For those of us whose New Year's resolutions are to take a more spiritual path in 2018, it might be an idea to follow jgfitz in following in the footsteps of St Kevin and wend your way over the Wicklow Gap towards Glendalough. This is the eastern section of St Kevin's Way, and with that in mind an obvious extension would be to include the (somewhat less hilly) western section too.
jgfitz on Ballinagee Bridge to Laragh (Eastern Half of St. Kevin's Way)
This route is way-marked with the St. Kevin's symbol, and follows the R756 road. It is boggy in places between Ballinag| walk, Len: 12.3km, Climb: 251m, Area: Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) ... Click here ...

EAST: Learning from the past
Bunsen7 digs into the history of Spinan’s Hill SE in Wicklow, and uncovers some interesting facts, thanks to a 19th century geologist/hillwalker.
Bunsen7 on Spinans Hill SE Top: Brissels or Brussels
Climbed both hills on 16/12/17, following the main route described by others here on MV. The forestry between the tops has thinned out a little (or so it seems by reference to previous comments) and further inroads are being made into the forestry with machinery that make the route much more obvious. When researching this hill before my visit I found myself confused as to the pronunciation ( ... ... Click here ...

EAST: Gorses for courses
Bunsen7 has uploaded a short but interesting track climbing to the unfashionable (for obvious prickly reasons) Wicklow summit of Cloghnagaune before visiting an atmospheric stone circle on the return. Obviously this isn't a day's work on the hill (unless you adjourn for a blood transfusion) so for those wanting more the substantially more lofty Keadeen Mountain is relatively close at hand.
Bunsen7 on Cloghnagaune Summit and Stone Circle
This is a rather painful hill to summit from the obvious parking spot at the forest entrance to the south east. Followin| walk, Len: 4.0km, Climb: 144m, Area: Cloghnagaune, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) C ... Click here ...

EAST: Prickly situation
An ascent of Cloghnagaune in Wicklow took Bunsen7 through a painful maze of head-high gorse, but at least rewarded with some megalithic interest.
Bunsen7 on Cloghnagaune: There must be an easier way!
This is a rather painful hill to summit from the obvious parking spot at the forest entrance to the south east. Following where others have gone I found myself wading through head high gorse to attain the top. There must be an easier way up, perhaps from the graveyard to the west. Apparently Sam MacAlastair, sidekick to Michael Dwyer is buried in the graveyard. It seems that this top may be loc ... ... Click here ...

EAST: A Forest
What the lower summits of Wicklow lack in terms of Dolomitic outline they make up for in terms of Werner Herzog-esque undergrowth, and Carrick Mountain is a fine example. With that in mind simon3 has undertaken several crusades in search of a decent route to the summit, and in his humble opinion this track immortalises the least bad option. It's not much more than a stroll in terms of distance, but there are plenty of similarly proportioned eminences close by.
simon3 on Exploratory route for Carrick Mtn from the SW
This track was made in search of a quick way up Carrick Mtn, a summit that has caused considerable grief to previous peo| walk, Len: 4.9km, Climb: 181m, Area: Carrick Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland ... Click here ...

SWEDEN: Super Troupers
More continental European shenanigans from mcrtchly and kernowclimber this month, this time revisiting the Arctic region of Sweden. The route in question is the Dag Hammarskjöldleden, named after the legendary Swedish statesman, and it is a multi-day trek through an extraordinarily huge interior, not massively physically demanding (as far as multi-day treks go, you understand) but still fundamentally serious. As usual, there's a video:
mcrtchly on 'Off-Grid' in Arctic Sweden: Trekking the Dag Hammarskjöldleden
We first visited Arctic Sweden in September 2016 and walked the middle section of the Kungsleden trail (MV track 3332). | walk, Len: 110.7km, Climb: 1726m, Area: Sweden, Norrbotten () ... Click here ...

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for recent months later.


Call for Material for Annual

View last ANNUAL (or Hi-res version.)

For the the Annual 2017 - to be published in Feb 2018 - Now that the New Year is upon us and the many seasonal occasions have gone, leaving hopefully happy memories and expanded waistlines, now is the time to get articles in for our next Annual

The Background. For the last two years we have brought out a PDF style magazine. We plan to do the same this, "The MountainViews ANNUAL 2017". We are looking for feature length illustrated articles. And photos. And shorter items for "Your Walking Highlights of 2017". For the highlights we are mainly looking for experiences in Ireland though as last time we will include some adventures abroad.

We will consider any areas of interest to hillwalkers in Ireland, for example articles on Challenge Walking (both organised and individual), Family Walking, Gear, Flora & Fauna, Holiday Walking, Scrambling, Coastal or Island walking etc are all welcome.

Copydate: Ideally by Weds 10th Jan.

If you are thinking of contributing or would like to discuss topics etc feel free to contact or have an article

at admin -at-

Trees threatening wilderness?

Controversially this article in Green News starts with:
"Coillte has planted over 260,000 non-native conifer trees in Ireland’s first official wilderness zone over the past four years despite agreeing to phase out commercial forestry in the area in 2013."
Be the judge of this yourself.

Think you know what a mountain looks like? Think again: Peaks in world's greatest ranges are shaped more like WORMS

Odd way of looking at mountains.
Read more:
I came across this odd but different article on mountain ranges and the slopes of their sides in an unlikely place. Must have been a slow day for EU-bashing. Science moves in mysterious ways.

Controversially this article in Green News starts with:
"Coillte has planted over 260,000 non-native conifer trees in Ireland’s first official wilderness zone over the past four years despite agreeing to phase out commercial forestry in the area in 2013."
Be the judge of this yourself.

Volunteering for 2018: Strengthening the MountainViews Committee

Currently we have a number of officers on the committee such as chairperson, secretary etc. We really could use some further committee members to achieve our strategic goals and spread the load.
Position In Brief
Ordinary members For those taking an interest in the MV committee or indeed committees in general we can also use some further "regular" committee members without a specific role. There are many smaller quite finite projects that might suit regular members.
Publicity MountainViews is a great resource based on over 1300 people's contributions over 15 years. Great that is if you have heard of it. And that's where we could use some practical publicity help.
The Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth Quite apart from programmers, would you believe MV's progress can also use help from people who can really follow through on mundane tasks like creating lists, checking stats, researching place names or geology. Whether on the committee or not we value such people's contributions.
Talks Group Not strictly speaking part of the main committee but an interesting position.

Contact us at admin -at-

The MountainViews ANNUAL, 2016.

In February 2016 MountainViews was delighted to announce something new, our first ANNUAL, an online magazine for Hillwalkers in Ireland. Here is our latest annual, published in Feb 2017

Click here for the current ANNUAL (or Hi-res version.)

If you are interested in a printed version you can buy one here. Click Here.


Videos this month:

The Arctic north of Sweden, from members mcrtchly and kernowclimber
A winter walk in the Mournes, from member gerrym
The Miners' Track on Muckish, from member David-Guenot

Videography by Peter Walker.


Apps for your phone

As we mentioned last month, we've been taking a look at the possibilities of creating a mobile phone App for use out on the hills.

Apart from the substantial technological challenge of doing this, there's a whole discussion as to what it would do. Is it for the support of general hillwalkers? or for summiteers? or for those wanting to use MV tracks in the hills?

Opinions welcome at admin -at-

Progress on technical assistance

We have had to bring back our SOS looking for technical support.

We now have much better facilities for volunteer software developers. To support group software development various tools are required such as Version Control, Issue Handling, Documentation Repository. We have moved our version control from an earlier tool, SVN to Git and Gitlab. Latter mentioned tool also supports issue handling and documentation.

If you wish to discuss taking a hand and have skills useful to a website such as MountainViews, get in touch (with no committment) at admin -at-

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging, Highpointing, visiting islands and coastal places.

A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
MountainViews first book available online and in some bookshops. The first reprint with numerous minor amendments is available.

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This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. amacelmeel, amof, ashveen, Barronmar, BobLynch, ciaranmcn, cromcruac, Daithilacha, dan.matei, danebusby, Desgreene, Doshea, Ell, emzer1234, ERyan, Finnok, Gemmao, guillaume, hanks, Hennessybrothers, Hillbagger96, ijmitch, jamesmforrest, jimmyd1971, joanmaryquinn, johngcruise, Kennedymeehan17, Kolimico, mangart, Michaeljnr, michelleoleary, nanmccarron10, PeterByrne, remyrium, Stehob, tess, tomoose, TonyM, Trishred (39)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Aidy (2), BleckCra (9), Bunsen7 (7), Colin Murphy (5), David-Guenot (1), IainMiller (5), Kennyj (1), Onzy (1), avwall (1), bryanmccabe (1), davsheen (1), Communal summary entries (7), jamesmforrest (1), jgfitz (2), markwallace (2), mcrtchly (2), mlmoroneybb (11), pauric50 (1), peter1 (2), simon3 (9)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors

There were comments on the following places An Bhuidéal, An Cnoc Fada, Ballincurra Hill, Ben of Howth, Black Rock Mountain, Bruse Hill, Bunnanimma, Carrick Mountain, Cloghnagaune, Currywongaun, Derrygarriff, Drumnalifferny North-East Top, Dún Briste, Dunmurry Hill, Farscallop, Foardal, Great Sugar Loaf, Inishbarnog, Lugnagun, Peakeen Mountain, Peakeen Mountain Far North-West Top, Roaninish, Spinans Hill SE Top, Tomies Mountain
and these shared tracks Ballincurra Hill, Shannon Ireland, Ballyhoura Mountains Ireland, Ballyhoura Mountains Ireland, Carrick Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Carrick Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Carrick Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Cloghnagaune, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Cnoc na hUilleann North Top, Maamturks Ireland, Cork Islands Ireland, Cork Islands Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, East Coast Ireland, Kanturk, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Nareera South-West Top, Caha Mountains Ireland, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Sweden, Norrbotten , W Limerick/N Kerry Ireland tracks were created.

Thanks to all 1306 who have ever contributed place or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 8599 comments about 1623 different hills, mountains, island and coastal features out of the total in our current full list (2135). We want to get a good gps track showing each of the major ways to visit each of these places and summits in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have a short summary for every summit and island and coastal feature in Ireland. There's a few (512) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit, however lots of opportunities for islands and coastal features as we bring them out. We also have around 2000 shared GPS tracks, mostly in Ireland. Apart from a few popular areas, there is a need for more routes in many different areas. Plain shared tracks without descriptions are welcome however if you have time then do please add route descriptions with photos.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • Report suspicious activity to the police forces, as below.
  • If your car is broken into in an upland area report it to the PSNI or Gardai as this will help them be aware of the issue and tackle it in future. Store the numbers. In Northern Ireland use the PSNI non-emergency number 0845 600 8000. In the Republic you can find the local Garda District HQs phone numbers at Specifically for the hotspot of Wicklow: the Garda Divisional Headquarters in Bray is 01 6665300.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report recreational quads in national park area (in which they are banned). They are also banned in the Mournes. For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. For the Mournes ring the PSNI (as above) or contact Mournes Heritage Trust. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have visited some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a place rating and also "Improve Grid Ref" for summits and other places.
  • If you find errors in the basic information about places such as in their names, their heights, county name etc please use the "Propose Places Database Change" option.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit or to a place so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as shared GPS tracks.
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  • ChallengeWalksIreland Visit the Challenge Walks Ireland page (jointly managed by MountainViews)

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