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The Summit

Monthly newsletter of for guestuser

October 2017



NORTH, SOUTH, WEST, EAST, Route ideas and places to go.

Cuilcagh: more on it and protecting mountain areas. - Further comment and article by an expert.

Various events organised by members: Westport, Glendahurk Horseshoe, Dublin, Pub Quiz, Knockmealdowns, Bandit Trails Hillwalking, Quiz and a new challenge walk.

Challenge Walks New, review and rumination ..

New island website features. Ticking islands, and an Irish Island list.

2 videos featured this month. gerrym and Richard Walter


MountainViews Pub Quiz, Lansdowne Hotel, Pembroke Road, Dublin 4, Wednesday, October 18th, 7:30pm
MOUNTAINVIEWS: Hillwalkers' Winter Talks

MountainViews Walkers Winter Talks series will resume in 2018. We are looking for further ideas, contacts and practical help.

MOUNTAIN MEITHEAL: Mountain Meitheal are keen to find more people to help.

Mountain Meitheal make practical repairs to some of the more popular areas we walk on, using a voluntary community based approach. (More information at their website.)

 Picture of the month

Inishmore: Atlantic coast of the SE corner

For original shared track, click here.

Photo: simon3 who says: As editor I was surprised this stitched panorama got the highest votes from the committee. It was taken as two pictures in poor light with drizzle, the great enemy of anyone who uses a DSLR because of the need to continously clean the lens. Every 3 seconds. Still: perhaps it serves to illustrate the views available of the extraordinary geology and wave action on the Atlantic coast of Inishmore. Hopefully someone will share a better picture of the place.

In short: Discovery

Featured Track of the Month
Energy drinks and worms...
October's TOTM is one of a pair of tracks uploaded by our editor based around a trip to Oileáin Árann. It's a route taking in many of Inis Mor's historical and landscape highlights and almost equally amenable by foot or on a bike. As ever the accompanying notes are very well researched and nuanced, and there's a fine selection of photographs.

simon3 on Forts, a monster, invasions, rocky walls and limestone.
Main walk Start: 11:53, End: 17:05, Duration: 5h11m, Length: 16.5km, Ascent: 300m, Descent: 248m
Places: Start at L82532 10405, An Droim Rua, end at L86565 10140 4km E from Start (statistics such as Ascent or Length etc should be regarded as approximate. Duration depends on the speed of the person making the track)

Getting to the start
There isn't public transport on the island so to get to the start you can cycle or take one of the minibus tours. In fact much of the walk can be done with a bike and in some ways that would be better. We prefer walking to cycling in rain and wind so we went for the bus for the first leg. You can see it's circuitous coastal route on the map taking in views of the "seal colony" as such trips are wont to hype up.

Dún Aonghasa

There is a well established route to this fort. It was originally built between 1100 and 500 BCE on the highest part of the cliff probably as a defence against sea invasion and no doubt to intimidate the locals. Modern additions (using mortar) are a defence against the tourists. It's an astonishing place with great views despite the tourism.
I suppose in fairness the management of tourism is reasonably well balanced. In track/2315 there is a brief description of Yr Eifl N and Tre'r Ceiri, the latter also being an iron age fort, but in Wales. It is similarly massive, extremely impressive, delapidated, uncared for and doing nothing for the local economy.

Poll na Péist aka the Worm or Monster Hole

Route to Wormhole. Dun Aengus in background.
Returning to the main road there are efficient but extremely busy tearooms and a small interpretative centre. After a short bit on the road (traffic is like something out of the 1950's with only the occasional bus and horse and trap) turn off the onto one of the stone wall lined unpaved roads (cyclable) towards Gort na gCapall, a small cluster of houses. The exact location of the Poll na Péist is L82566 09296 however getting there requires some diligence across a vague trail. While I don't advocate paint marks on tracks, you will find there are some red arrows probably used for the Red Bull cliff diving competition. If you find yourself attempting to cross stone walls then you have gone wrong. OSM (Open Street Map) does show two tracks towards the pool - the more inland one worked for us - the outer one would be extremely dangerous in stormy weather due to bombardment by seriously life changing lumps of stone thrown up by waves. Come to think of it I am no so sure about any sort of trip to this place in seriously bad weather. Apparently the local GP is kept busy with injuries sustained around here.

Extraordinary natural swimming pool.
The pool itself is completely astonishing being almost a perfect rectangle with the sea surging into it underground from the nearby coast. Local legend is silent on the origins of the pool. Usually you would expect to hear that Cú Chulainn had bathed his feet in such a place before battle with one of his foes or some such. Apparently there is no such story. The local legend of no legend. You are invited to compose a new cycle of the Red Branch - you will have to work hard to counteract the modern Red Bull story of course.

The summit area and more signs of war.

Leaving Gort na gCapall via the easterly unpaved road you go about two km and then turn left to ascend towards the trig pillar and much else. Be careful that you turn up the correct track. If you choose incorrectly you may not be able to reach the summit area because of the stone walls. On the occasion that I was there in Sept 2017 the OS 1:50K showed the relevant tracks pretty accurately while OSM wasn't quite as good. At the top there are two buildings. The older squarish and more derilict was part of the defences against Napoleon and was a 19th century signal tower presumably in line of sight with various martello towers nearby such as the one near Rossaveal. The roundish building was a lighthouse built in the 19th century also but found to be too far from the sea to be useful. It was replaced by lighthouses at both ends of Inishmore and is now defunct.

Round defunct lighthouse, square signal tower, Eire sign.

Trig pillar and air navigational aid 50.

An extremely narrow path between stone walls leads towards the trig pillar which is now incorporated into a stone wall. Just south of it is a large sign flat on the ground saying "50 Eire". Towards the end of the second world war enormous numbers of US planes (over 10,000) were being flown over the Atlantic and would often find themselves over then neutral Ireland rather than their destination in Northern Ireland. These signs were put up all along the coast of the Republic often near the look out posts (LOPs).

Dun Eochla

Just east of the defunct lighthouse is another stone fort, also very impressive. This one is circular. Unlike Dun Aengus it is totally off the tourist trail and you may meet no-one at all there. Apparently it was built between 550 and 800 CE. According to Megalithomania "While some web sites may reference a stone hut in the enclosure, the structure in the centre is more likely a repository for stones left over from the restoration. I am delighted to recommend you visit this fort; the views from here are stunning, you can see an almost 360? view of the island, and the Cliffs of Moher can also be seen on a clear day."

Returning to Kilronan.

One way home.

Head north to the road. Not being particularly enamoured of road walking we found Mack and Jack, respectively driver and horse willing to take us back to Kilronan. Mack managed to tell us a huge amount about history in the ride home. There are stone memorials in many parts to people who left many in 1846 at the height of the Famine. Apparently it was £5 for a one way trip to the US which meant you had to sell your property to fund it.


What an extraordinary amount of geology and history and walking on the wild coast for one trip. Well worth a try.

NORTH: The impostor among the Seven Sevens
The Seven Sevens are a group of the Mournes all supposedly over 700m. But as Peter Walker tells us, Slieve Meelmore doesn’t quite make the grade.
group on Slieve Meelmore, (Sliabh Míol Mór): The impostor among the Seven Sevens
The lower of the Meelmore/Meelbeg pairing, Slieve Meelmore has historically been one of the Seven Sevens based on the height listed on older maps. In the present day it is a steep-sided whaleback crossed by the Mourne Wall with some substantial crags overlooking the hollow of Pollaphuca on its eastern flank. The most commonly used ascent is via the Trassey Track, starting from the road near the ... ... Click here ...

NORTH: Rough around the edges
Slieve Lamagan is among the roughest of the Mournes and is the site of much grunting and cursing by hillwalkers engaged on its ascent, records Peter Walker.
group on Slievelamagan, (Sliabh Lámhagáin): The seventh son
Slieve Lamagan is one of the roughest of the Mournes, and its south western side rearing above the col connecting with Slieve Binnian is the site of much grunting and cursing by hillwalkers engaged on its ascent. The peak takes the form of a south-north ridge with a lesser gap on the northern side, and with very steep (on the eastern side craggy) flanks. Park at Carrick Little carpark at J345 2 ... ... Click here ...

WEST: Simple and splendid
Rostoohey is a wee Mayo coastal hill that requires little or no effort and is topped by a hill fort and a panorama of islands speckling Clew Bay, reports sandman.
sandman on Rostoohy Hill, (Ros Tuaithe): Coastal Hill
Parking where appropriate make your way the short distance along the foreshore to L9531390160 where ascent to the hill exists as shown in the photo. You will encounter a small stone drinking well on your way to the summit which is crowned by a large hill fort.Great views well worth the effort with no access issues even though you are crossing private land. ... Click here ...

WEST: Precious views, busy track
As part of Connemara National Park, Diamond Hill is frequently busy, but the views over the coastline and Kylemore Abbey, are priceless, says sophpow
sophpow on Diamond Hill, (Binn Ghuaire): A nice hike on a well managed trail
We took to Diamond Hill on a fine Wednesday in mid September, and even for a mid week mid morning hike, the route was busy with walkers. The hill is excellently managed, and makes for a manageable hike for most fitness levels, with a boardwalk and good path most of the way up, but slower progress near the top with a steep rocky climb to the summit. The one way walking system is great, as it preven ... ... Click here ...

Featured Place of the Month
It's Amazing what you See when the Sun Comes Out - and Be Careful what gets into your Knickers!!!
Our Comment of the Month Award for September goes to Bunsen7 for his excellent historical revelation in a piece about a discovery made by an amateur archaeologist in the Conor Pass area of the Dingle Peninsula. "A hillwalker in west Kerry has made a stunning discovery which connects a 4,000-year-old tomb with the equinox.

The megalithic tomb, known as the Giant's Grave, is situated in the valley of Loch an Dúin on the eastern side of the Conor Pass.

Ancient rock art can be found within the tomb, including a cup and circle near the head of the tomb.

For the past 14 years Daithí Ó Conaill, a retired school principal, has visited the site during the winter and summer solstice hoping to make a connection between the tomb and the sun.

He has now discovered that the wedge tomb is actually aligned to the setting sun of the equinox, which last occurred on Friday 22 September 2017."

Yet another thing to look out for if you take a walk in this area and which I bypassed on my only visit to this lake. A Hendroff suggests the view northwards from the hills above this lake is one of the finest on the peninsula - I have a fair few more hills to visit before I can attest to this but having had the privilege to take in that view I certainly agree it is worth the ramble!

We would be interested in publishing further pictures and a position for this tomb, so if you are going this way please do share the track and position.

Also this month our judge has insisted on a secondary award, threatening a hissy fit if he doesn’t get his way. Therefore we bestow an Honourable Mention for 'Best Comment Title'

This goes to melohara for the intriguing 'Filling your Underwear with Pine, Moss and Twigs now Optional' which heads a comment on Knoughnalougha South in the Knockmealdowns (and no, this comment does not tell you how to spice up your love-life - check out what it refers to here):

melohara on Knocknalougha South Top, (Cnoc na Loiche ó dheas barr): Filling your underwear with pine needles, moss and tw
There is a “new” forest track leading all the way to Knocknalougha South Top. Having noted eamonoc’s advice re car break-ins at S 03061 09959 car park I decided to park at Crow Hill car park R 983 089. I then followed the Adandhu Way from the West rather than the East. As did previous contributors, I made the last 200m of my way to Knocknalo ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Mish Understanding
The lofty rampart of the Slieve Mish mountains looms high above Tralee, and there can be few sights so impressive that are so regularly driven past by hillwalkers. Such an omission is anathema to GSheehy (especially when he's scouting out another biblically long integrale outing) and his track traverses the range from the shores of Castlemaine Harbour to the high road crossing the eastern end of the ridge. With a few diversions to outlying tops this is a reasonable day out for a strong party, with commensurate rewards on a clear day.
GSheehy on Lanigans Ball and the Slieve Mish Mountains
“What in the name of Jaysus are you on about with your ‘Lanigan’s Ball’?” “This is hillwalking lad. Not danc| walk, Len: 27.3km, Climb: 1557m, Area: Caherbla, Slieve Mish (Ireland) Caherb ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Creeks and paddles
The last part of GSheehy's putative epic covers the entire crescent of the Brandon range from the Conor Pass to Brandon Point with some of the hills on the other part of the pass thrown in just to be on the safe side. The way is long but a tremendous variety of scenery and terrain will be be seen and covered by those following in his footsteps, with the abyss of Sauce Creek the ultimate prize for those who stay the distance. As ever, his notes are both useful and individualistic.
GSheehy on A Horseshoe of Epic Proportions
There’s an owl on the road as I make my way to Cloghane. Never seen that before. Just standing there, looking at the o| walk, Len: 38.1km, Climb: 1866m, Area: Brandon Group (Ireland) An Bhinn Dubh, ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Much-trodden Kerry gem
An approach to the lovely Tomies Mountain in Kerry from the north, from member Bunsen7.
Bunsen7 on Tomies Mountain, (An Chathair): Approached from the north
Approached from the north on 19 Aug 2017, following the track along the laneway north of Kate Kearneys. Perhaps the key to finding this laneway is spotting the two wide gates side by side on the right after you pass the gift shop (Moriarty's) and then Bugler's cottage. Take the gate on the right. The laneway leaves you at the very start of the ridge from where you can follow a fence southwards ini ... ... Click here ...

SOUTH: Horses for courses
There can be few less frequented 'viable' walkers' routes to the summit of Carrauntoohil than the obvious gully in the Coomhoughra back wall, the Black Mare. bunsen7 has followed this route to the top, returning via the Caher Ridge, and reports it as being more straightforward than the Devil's Ladder (which could be argued to be damning something with faint praise). Of necessity this is a route lacking the views of other routes, but its enclosed nature could prove useful on a day with poor conditions such as he describes.
Bunsen7 on The Black Mare Gulley (Coumloughra)
This route goes up the gulley at the head of Coumloughra known as the Black Mare. You clamber out at a small pile of sto| walk, Len: 11.9km, Climb: 1022m, Area: Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks (I ... Click here ...

SOUTH: A rush and a Cush and this land is ours...
For those who like to use hill terrain as their own training ground conrad1179's track in the Galtees provides a decent example. His route crosses most of the western, higher part of the range before diving down to the northern outlier of Cush...then doing it all in reverse. You could of course finish the main ridge on Slieveanard NE top before reversing to the start, but I'd hate to give the impressionable any ideas.
conrad1179 on Half Galtee Crossing - Anglesborough to Cush and back
| run, Len: 26.8km, Climb: 1845m, Area: Lyracappul, Galty Mountains (Ireland) Lyracappul, Galtybeg, Cush, Galtymore, Slievecushnabinnia, Carrignabinnia, Temple Hill ... Click here ...

EAST: Not the sort of member you expect to meet
After an obstacle course of gates, barbed wire and fallen trees on the way up Keadeen in Wicklow, Pepe discovered that someone had created a huge, stone phallic symbol at the summit!
Pepe on Keadeen Mountain, (Céidín): Don't bring your Granny up Keadeen ...
... Not at the moment anyway. Why not? I’ll get to that. But first the getting up. The cluster of keep-out signs mentioned by Voodoonoel at the track entrance are off-putting, including one which declares something like ‘No Unauthorised Entry’. If you ignore the signs there is a gauntlet of three locked or tethered gates to be clambered over before the track curves into the trees. The steep uphil ... ... Click here ...

EAST: What's in a name?
Barniskea. Barniskey or Ballymoyle Hill, take your pick for the name of this Wicklow Binnion. Member Barry does some etymological digging!
Members: you are reminded that MountainViews has a button allowing you to "Propose Places Database Change" which minimises chances of us forgetting such suggestions and also minimises the work that other volunteers have to do to update the MV database.
Barry on Barranisky, (Barr an Uisce): Barniskea or Barniskey
Might be worth adding that Ballymoyle Hill might be more appropriate name for this height. Called that in Coillte records. Whilst Barranisky is spelt thus on OS six inch maps, note that Hall Neville map that predates OS, has Barniskea and the Schools Collection refers in a few places to Barniskey. Given that 'Barranisky' townland lies to the west of the hill and contains an important pass and old ... ... Click here ...

MIDLANDS: Pleasant walk in a remote area
Although the surrounding landscape is somewhat bleak, the remote Cappaghabaun Mountain East in the Shannon area, has a charm of its own, not to mention a fine dolmen, says peter1
peter1 on Cappaghabaun Mountain East: Easy, pleasant walk in a remote area
Cappaghabaun East, as others have described, is a little bit off the beaten track - having said that, the East Clare Way crosses the route several times! Again, as others have written, the views are likely to be impressive for such a small hill and yet I also saw more cloud and fog than views. Yet, something about the place lends itself to grey cloud and hazy views - the bleakness of the landsca ... ... Click here ...

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for recent months later.

Cuilcagh and all.

Mountaineering Ireland President Paul Kellagher and their Hillwalking, Access & Conservation Officer Helen Lawless on Cuilcagh. The newly churned up state of the land caused by the inappropriate development speaks for itself.
Last month we extensively commented on the inappropriate development on Cuilcagh. We asked people to consider whether they really want deskilled walking through a newly created rubbish strewn and damaged landscape. We were assisted by Mountaineering Ireland (MI) who take a strongly environmental line on such matters.

MI are pushing back over Cuilcagh as can be seen in this article in the local "Impartial Reporter"

They also have a robust news report about this here on their website.
Note: some small corrections to our previous article. The Council area is now Fermanagh and Omagh (one of the new merged NI councils) The Geopark have also asked us to clarify that they are jointly managed by Cavan Co Council. The area of damage on the plateau extends along the border line.

In our article we mentioned that there are examples of good practice elsewhere and an excellent place to look is in the Mournes. The Mournes area is managed for recreational purposes by the Mournes Heritage Trust and their "Countryside Services Manager" Matt Bushby kindly volunteered to give us his thoughts below on upland development from the practitioners point of view. This is different from the "environmentalist or hillwalker" points of view we have already covered. A sober but well argued read.

The Mournes Heritage Trust on Upland Path Works

The subject of upland path work on the island of Ireland has stimulated comment and debate with recent press and social media articles about the appropriateness of the work at sites such as Cuilcagh and Slieve league and even the Mournes. In order to inform the debate my aim to is talk from a management body/practitioners point of view about the broad principles, rationale and issues involved when considering intervention.

Mournes skyline from left: Slieve Commedagh, Slieve Donard, Slievelamagan.

Mourne Heritage Trust and Newry Mourne and Down District Council officers and volunteers visited Cuilcagh with Simon Gray, the Geopark Ranger, in July 2017 along with a site visit to Errigal mountain, as part of the Ascent Project (Apply Skills And Conserve Our Environment With New Tools), which looks to develop principles and techniques for communities and land managers responding to increased pressures on environmentally sensitive landscapes .

Our understanding is that the decisions that were made at Cuilcagh came from the need to deal with the overriding issue managers were faced with; the recreational impact on the designated habitat from the end of the dust track where people left it to head for the mountain.

Land managers have complex issues to balance and clearly now social media can be an unexpected game changer, such as at TrollTunga in Norway , where a social media posting resulted in an exponential increase in users to a very remote and challenging site which is presenting management bodies with serious safety and habitat issues to address. We are keen to support colleagues such as in Fermanagh in any way that may help in developing solutions to the shared challenges.

In the Mournes, the reason for intervention has been where erosion has been clearly evidenced and has been preceded by monitoring, detailed reports and consultations to come up with what is deemed to be an appropriate response. We have considered carefully the issues of if, when and how to intervene, and the dilemmas can be whether to do so at an earlier stage than may normally be expected in order to prevent a serious erosion situation occurring, and also do you simply armour existing desire lines, which can involve a high cost, or step back and consider what could be a more sustainable line? Resource constraint plays a big part in your deliberations; with a reliance on capital funding for most work, and limited numbers of skilled staff and volunteers to deal with maintenance.

There are available a range of principles and manuals of techniques to employ, but you also need to ‘learn’ your own site as we have found that one size doesn’t fit all. This means understanding the particular idiosyncrasies of a site involving geology, soil, vegetation, rainfall, wind and user dynamics etc. and often that’s only really understood by observing the impact and performance of actions on the ground. So piloting work can be essential.

From sharing with others that have been at this game for a long time (such as in Scotland), it is recognised that there is an element of this work where you are always learning and you may have to go back in and rework a newly managed site as unforeseen factors undermine its effectiveness.

Another untouched Mournes Panorama.

Within this mix you also have to think about the broader ecosystem services or other factors that impinge on the landscape such as agriculture, habitat designation, wildfire, tourism, recreation, carbon sequestration, water quality and how these may be affected by climate change, the rural economy, the health and well-being agenda, and now BREXIT. Therefore, you may not have one agenda to accommodate.

Our experience so far in the Ascent project shows that what may be seen in one country as a valid context within which to plan upland management, for example product development as an economic driver or for promotion of health and well-being, may be considered inappropriate in   others.

The issue that really keeps coming up with all of the sites we have visited across UK, Ireland and Internationally, and in our own work, is that land managers and practitioners (and communities) are lacking sufficiently effective support mechanisms that would help in dealing with the challenges relating to upland recreation. These include revenue funding for a consistent effort of ‘stitch in time’ path work (alongside wider habitat management), access to best practice information, access to expertise in the field (not just consultants but peers who are used to similar local aspects and have a good body of work behind them), absence of relevant local networks, training, and most importantly leadership in all the above. Countries may be at different stages along the journey of developing a strategic approach to upland path management, but we see a lot of commonality in the issues faced.

In the absence of the above, so far we and other managers have tried to establish a framework to guide our work as best we can, albeit often with limited resources and, consequently, with a piece meal approach. Thus gaps inevitably occur and simple things like the time to ensure good communication with stakeholders is lost and this can cause concern e.g. in the walking community.

For now, we see the Ascent Project as our vehicle for championing a consistent and holistic approach, and we are hopeful that the international dimension will help make the case more robust.

Moreover, we are very interested in the Irish Uplands Forum and Heritage Council’s programme looking at developing Irish Upland Partnerships at the community level that would have the resources and broader support that could sustain them as essential mechanisms for responding to the increasing challenges in the rural environment.

Responding to the challenges outlined, the Ascent project is providing a workshop in November to review perspectives on upland path principles and their applicability for land managers, practitioners and local communities responding to increased erosion in environmentally sensitive landscapes. Key themes to be discussed include common challenges, sharing experience, innovation and policy development. 

For any further information please contact Matthew Bushby at

-- Matt Bushby


Everyone at would like to express their deepest sympathies towards the family of Kevin Hallahan, the Dublin and Wicklow Mountain Rescue Team member who was tragically killed during a training exercise in Wales on September 30th. We often take for granted the vital work that these men and women do voluntarily and it is only when unforeseen accidents occur that we really appreciate the commitment, training and selflessness of people like Kevin. Our thoughts are with Kevin’s family and friends at this terrible time. May he rest in peace.

The Highwayman Challenge
Member Jackill has "found myself dragged by the ears out of semiretirement to lead the A walk with BleckCra on this local walking festival. Please come along and support us if you can. Or give us a lift in a car from the halfway point back to the nearest pub!"
BleckCra can be relied upon to explain the origins of names such as Knockmealdown and their connection to ants.

Ridge from Corranabinnia is part of the route.

A meet has been arranged by a member for Saturday 7th October. Why not make a weekend of it!
The walk is open to everyone and in particular members and friends. Based in Westport Co Mayo, we meet on Saturday morning for a day’s hike in the remote but beautiful Nephin Beg mountain range in North Mayo.
The hike will be the Glendahurk horseshoe which includes the high point of Corrannabinnia and the narrow ridge from its summit to the South West top as well as Bengorm.
The walk is approx. 6 hours and will be similar to track number 3551 on and will require a reasonable level of fitness.
Afterwards we will meet up for a meal in a Westport hostelry (JJ O’Malleys) and thereafter a bit of craic agus ceol.
The walk and the day are organised independently by members of and there is no charge for the walk.
You arrange your own accommodation and any matters of insurance.
There are several accommodation options in Westport or in Newport if you prefer to be nearer the walk start.
This is a wonderful opportunity to meet members of the Mountainviews community
The walk and further details are available from Liz at who is the member who is organising this event.

NI Water Mourne Wall Restoration Project

NI Water would like to make the public aware that as part of our ongoing Mourne Wall Restoration Project, we will be carrying out helicopter drops during the week commencing 9th October. The helicopter will be used to airlift capping stones to various locations to complete sections of the wall that have already been restored.

Work is progressing well on this major scheme to restore this historic monument and weather permitting, this first series of helicopter lifts will be completed in two days. Subsequent helicopter lifts will be organised over the next two years as other sections of wall get underway. Health and safety is a priority for both NI Water and our contractor, GEDA Construction. Signage will be in place in advance and any working area will be manned and closely monitored as material is lowered to site. We would like to thank the public for their cooperation as this project continues and any customer queries should be directed to Waterline on 03457 440088.

For further information, please contact NI Water’s Press Office on 02890 354710 or email

Strengthening the MountainViews Committee

Currently we have a number of officers on the committee such as chairperson, secretary etc. We really could use some further committee members to achieve our strategic goals and spread the load.
Position In Brief
Ordinary members For those taking an interest in the MV committee or indeed committees in general we can also use some further "regular" committee members without a specific role. There are many smaller quite finite projects that might suit regular members.
Talks Group Not strictly speaking part of the main committee but an interesting position.

The MountainViews ANNUAL, 2016.

In February 2016 MountainViews was delighted to announce something new, our first ANNUAL, an online magazine for Hillwalkers in Ireland. Here is our latest annual, published in Feb 2017

Click here for the current ANNUAL (or Hi-res version.)

If you are interested in a printed version you can buy one here. Click Here.

A place for those interested in Challenge Walks

Challenge Walk Calendar

Challenge Walk Notes for Newsletter October 2017


No way we're not putting away our Hillwalking boots just yet . . . We're Challenge Walkers no less!

By the time October arrives most challenge walks within the Calendar are now but a memory but this won't deter new Hillwalking Club Na Sléibhte. This adventurous Hillwalking Club have some excellent walks planned over the forthcoming weeks that will follow the "Challenge Walks" model and they can be chased up on Facebook for further information.

A new and very welcome addition to the Calendar is The Highwayman Challenge down in the Knockmealdowns. The kind folk in Araglin, Co. Tipperary are proudly hosting this Challenge.


This is a gentle walk that has an ascent of 715m with a length of 30km. This Walk, even though it is a guided walk, is included in the Calendar, as it is felt that it can be a very interesting Walk that can serve as the perfect introduction to the world of Challenge Walks in Ireland. So now there can't be any excuse to those who are tempted but might have felt that these kinds of Walks could be a tad daunting. Of course not! Aren't the fraternity of Challenge Walkers always there to encourage and support!

October is always a great time to host a Challenge Walk too - isn't it great to have one last Hooley before days of shorter daylight are upon us.

An Errigal Rainbow from the Glover Highlander.

The Glover Highlander was always great for this, but as it only comes around every handful of years or so (The Glover was always a fabulous bookend to the Calendar) . . . it’s always missed on the years when it’s absent!

Of course, of course, of course . . .  my advice to greater MountainViews community is to come and join like-minded walkers on the next meet as organised by a MountainViews member which visits the wild and remote Nephin Beg Mountain Range on the 7th October (full details within the Newsletter).

There'll always be an up and coming good day out - so be sure to stay tuned to this channel . . . or Newsletter! Here on the MountainViews website we'll do all we can to direct you to a Challenge Walk near you . . . or at least our next MountainViews Scavvy.

Till next year and next season Boys and Girls, Onwards and Upwards,

-- Jim Holmes.

Also take a look at this resource managed by MountainViews:


Videos this month:

Wilderness and camping instructions in Donegal, from member gerrym
A preview of the imminent members walk in Mayo, from YouTube user Richard Walter

Videography by Peter Walker.


Island Lists, Island Visits etc.

Earlier this year we added over 500 islands to the places MountainViews covers. Since then various members have requested:
  • A means of marking visits to islands as well as visits to the highpoint of the island.
  • A way of seeing a straightforward list of islands, which isn't quite the same thing as a list of features on islands. For example there are two 'features' in the form of summits on Clare Island.
Shortly we will be introducing a means by which for an island you can tick to indicate a visit to the highpoint of the island or the island itself separately. Bit of a mouthful so here is a pic:
One peculiarity you may note if you have visited islands and start ticking them off is that if you have marked visiting a summit on an island then you can't untick the visit to the island. Think about it: if you have visited the highpoint then you must have visited the island.

Also we will be adding an "Irish Islands" list which will only show islands and whether you have visited them. The position given for an island will be the highest point on the island (as far as we know it).

There already is the "Irish Island Features" list. It lists all places for which we have a record on an island. Currently the only places we have information for on islands are summits, though in future we may have other coastal features like headlands etc. Most islands have only one summit but a few such as Clare Island or Achill have several. Anyway, the revised island features list now allows you to mark whether you have visited the highpoint or the island.

Of course all of the above only matters if you are visiting islands. Other features of the website haven't changed.

Progress on technical assistance

We have had to bring back our SOS looking for technical support. After great work a developer has left for Germany.

We now have much better facilities for volunteer software developers. To support group software development various tools are required such as Version Control, Issue Handling, Documentation Repository. We have moved our version control from an earlier tool, SVN to Git and Gitlab. Latter mentioned tool also supports issue handling and documentation.

If you wish to discuss taking a hand and have skills useful to a website such as MountainViews, get in touch (with no committment) at admin -at-

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Visiting Islands

The Site News section describes the useful new feature whereby you will shortly be able to mark which islands you have visited as well as what summit(s) on the island.

A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
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This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. 23619e, adallas86ni11, An_madra_aosta, Berreggnog, BNataliya, ceadeile, Cferguson, chnloveCom, Colmd123, Cullenni1, Dada, Drinan, eimearshannon12, elizm, geraldc2004, gerrooney, hanki, hezzag, Joanflynn, Johnnor, johntaraking, ksivan, Lindsay, love-sietsCom, MargJohn, Martinlister, mauriced, McGettigan, Michael01, mickaleenus, mmccabe, moconnell, nregan1, Paulb50, Paulpatrick, pl, Razor64, seanmeehan, september, Spenceralure, spiider28, stephendg, Stuartmagowan, tracydiver, vincentez, visitor1, yrhguoledh (47)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Barry (2), BleckCra (7), Bunsen7 (3), Colin Murphy (1), David-Guenot (6), GSheehy (4), Onzy (2), Pepe (1), Peter Walker (1), ScotJim (1), TommyMc (1), aidand (2), conrad1179 (1), dr_banuska (1), Communal summary entries (4), jimgraham (1), johntaraking (1), liz50 (1), maclimber (1), madeleineblue (1), marzka (4), melohara (2), mlmoroneybb (8), muddyboots (18), peter1 (1), sandman (18), simon3 (6), sophpow (1)
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There were comments on the following places Barnacuillew E.Top, Barranisky, Binn Ghuaire, Bruse Hill, Cappaghabaun Mountain East, Claggan Hill, Cone Hill, Derrylahan, Erris Head Hill, Glendorragh Point Hill, Gubacarrigan, Illanbaun Hill, Keadeen Mountain, Kilcommon Hill, Kilgalligan Hill, Knocknalougha South Top, Knockshanbo Hill, Old Head, Roscahill Hill, Rosgalliv Hill, Rossbeg Hill, Rostoohy Hill, Sturrakeen, Westaston Hill, Westport Demesne Hill
and these shared tracks An Cnoc Riabhach, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, An Corrán, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, An Droim Rua, Oileáin Árann Ireland, Ballineddan Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Beann na Stiocairí, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, Binn Bhán, Twelve Bens Ireland, Brandon Group Ireland, Brandon Hill, South Midlands Ireland, Caherbla, Slieve Mish Ireland, Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Carrickashane Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Corrin, Nagles Mountains Ireland, Cupidstown Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine , France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine , France, Occitanie , France, Occitanie , France, Occitanie , France, Occitanie , Keadeen Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Knocknabro West Top, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Knocknacusha, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, Knocknadobar North Top, Iveragh NW Ireland, Lyracappul, Galty Mountains Ireland, Meenteog South-East Top, Glenbeigh Horseshoe Ireland, Mullaghanish Far North-East Top, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Mweelrea, Mweelrea Mountains Ireland, Nareera South-West Top, Caha Mountains Ireland, Oileáin Árann Ireland, Shehy More, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Slieve Maan, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Sturrakeen, Galty Mountains Ireland, The Priests Leap, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Torc Mountain, Mangerton Ireland, Tountinna, Shannon Ireland, Unid, Unid , Unid, Unid tracks were created.

Thanks to all 1301 who have ever contributed place or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 8523 comments about 1599 different hills, mountains, island and coastal features out of the total in our current full list (2135). We want to get a good gps track showing each of the major ways to visit each of these places and summits in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have a short summary for every summit and island and coastal feature in Ireland. There's a few (536) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit, however lots of opportunities for islands and coastal features as we bring them out. We also have around 1900 shared GPS tracks, mostly in Ireland. Apart from a few popular areas, there is a need for more routes in many different areas. Plain shared tracks without descriptions are welcome however if you have time then do please add route descriptions with photos.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • Report suspicious activity to the police forces, as below.
  • If your car is broken into in an upland area report it to the PSNI or Gardai as this will help them be aware of the issue and tackle it in future. Store the numbers. In Northern Ireland use the PSNI non-emergency number 0845 600 8000. In the Republic you can find the local Garda District HQs phone numbers at Specifically for the hotspot of Wicklow: the Garda Divisional Headquarters in Bray is 01 6665300.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report recreational quads in national park area (in which they are banned). They are also banned in the Mournes. For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. For the Mournes ring the PSNI (as above) or contact Mournes Heritage Trust. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have visited some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a place rating and also "Improve Grid Ref" for summits and other places.
  • If you find errors in the basic information about places such as in their names, their heights, county name etc please use the "Propose Places Database Change" option.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit or to a place so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as shared GPS tracks.
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  • ChallengeWalksIreland Visit the Challenge Walks Ireland page (jointly managed by MountainViews)

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Summit comment reviews: David Murphy
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Track reviews: Peter Walker
Book reviews: Aidan Dillon, Peter Walker, Mel O'Hara
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