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December 2013



EAST, WEST, NORTH and SOUTH Route ideas and places to go

How to create a video part 2, Interview with gerrym also New 1:25k maps, More about the new 1:25000 maps. Register your interest.

Walkers Association: Pub Quiz coming Looking forward to this annual January Highlight.

VIDEO released this month: Sperrins Video by gerrym


Winter Talks Series 2013/ 2014

Weds Jan 29th 2014. 8pm. To be held in the Teachers Club, Parnell Square. "Wayfarers / WAI Pub Quiz" As in previous years this event promises to be great fun with both general and hillwalking questions. Tables of four. Come as a team or just show up. Many prizes. Proceeds to Mountain Rescue.

Fri 21st Feb 2014. MV/ WAI Mountain Gathering an annual event with several members as speakers and a guest speaker yet to be announced.

WAI talks are held in the Landsdowne Hotel, 27 - 29 Pembroke Road, Dublin 4 unless otherwise stated. Directions here .
Entrance is free. There is an optional collection to cover costs and support the WAI. The excellent bar facilities allow you to have a drink with other hillwalkers after the event. You can get a meal before the meeting also.

Nov 20th. Report for Talk about "The Original Survey and Modern Mapping Methods" meeting. - Dominic Cronin of the Ordnance Survey Ireland. Dominic gave an interesting and varied talk on both the original surveying of Ireland and modern methods. There was an extensive Q & A afterwards and some eighty people attended.

For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.
WAI Photo Gallery - WAI would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

Xmas present suggestion: A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits

Xmas present.
Why not buy A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits as a present? This book makes a great gift for anyone interested in hillwalking in Ireland. Its subject covers the whole island and helps people organise their walking. Buying the book helps us maintain MountainViews as a free-to-use service.

If you can't find them in a bookshop or gear shop, ASK the manager to stock it.

Or buy from the publisher: or Amazon here
Bulk sales to groups such as Scouts/ Guides: contact for a discounted price.

simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

As members will know, for over a decade, has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... Click here

Our correspondent Colin Murphy captured this evocative picture of ice and misty cold views on Lavagh Beg in the Bluestacks during November. We can only envy the clear weather walking. Click for source comment.

In short: Discovery

NORTH: White Lines
One of the more straightforward of the higher Sperrins to tick off is Mullaghmore, furnished as it is by a service road. There are other, more aesthetic lines of ascent, but those wishing to add the neighbouring lower top of White Mountain will probably find that all roads lead to the, erm, road. Onzy has weighed up his options, and his 'least cost' solution is to take the road to the higher summit before retracing his steps and taking the most yielding (in terms of effort required, rather than underfoot solidity) route to the lesser one. You could follow the linking ridge between the two, but its reality is gopping and peat-hag-ridden. This is a short trip; those wanting more could nip up Crockalougha over the road.
Onzy on White Mountain & Mullaghmore
Baggers route to these two hills - probably the shortest and walk, Length:7.3km, Climb: 248m, Area: White Mountain, Sperrin Mountains (Ireland) White Click here

NORTH: Donegal delight

Lavagh Beg was one stop on a four-Arderin loop for Colin Murphy, done under icy blue skies in the Bluestacks. Colin Murphy on Lavagh Beg: Donegal delight
We were lucky to arrive on Lavagh Beg on a beautiful winter's day and were greeted by a partially frozen landscape and an ice-covered lough. On a day such as this, this area is as fine a place for walking as any in Donegal. Click here

NORTH, with VIDEO: The last hurrah of the Sperrins
This month gerrym has been afoot in his local venue of the Sperrins, logging a track that climbs the isolated whaleback of Slieve Gallion. This is a twin-topped lump often slightly belittled by ascents using the service road up it (which passes within a gently-inclined mile of the main summit, and practically goes right up the NE Top), but Gerry has approached from the Iniscarn Forest to the NE, pulling up through the trees onto the open hillside, before eschewing the tarmac to use an old bog road between the tops. As ever, there's a video (; elegaic in execution and with what (and he may correct me on this) looked like some new editing tricks being used.
gerrym on An Eye on Ulster Slieve Gallion is a weather be walk, Length:13.2km, Climb: 549m, Area: Slieve Gallion NE Top, Sperrin Mountains (Ireland Click here

NORTH: Little effort brings big reward
Owenreagh Hill just qualifies as a 400m top, but gets full honours for the breathtaking views it offers, reports Aidy.
Aidy on Owenreagh Hill: Record breaking views?
After having just climbed Croaghan Hill in Donegal, I had enough time to include Owenreagh. I parked at the junction of Silverhill Road with Koram Road. Just opposite is another road which proceeds up the hill for a short distance to a dead end. A rough, overgown, boggy track can then be followed, between two fences, with a forest on the left, to the summit. On the short walk up, I had great v ... Click here

WEST: Connaught's finest
Mweelrea is as magnificent a mountain as can be found anyway where in Ireland, but as recent tragic events have informed us, it demands respect.
group on Mweelrea: Connaught's Finest !
Mweelrea, the highest mountain in Connaught, presents magnificent scenery from it's summit, but is a mountain which must always be treated with respect. In poor visibility good navigational skills are essential. 1.The most direct approach is from the West. Start at L765688 and take a rough farm track East. At its end cross a gate and head up SE for 2km to a river/stream junction L780676. With th ... Click here

WEST: The height of disappointment
Benwiskin's wave-like shape may appear quite remarkable from down below, but its summit is quite uninspiring, reports Colin Murphy.
Colin Murphy on Benwiskin: The height of disappointment!
This route also takes in Annaccona (see relevant entry for parking and route up etc). From Annaccona summit, proceed west for a couple of hundred metres and then swing NW. There is a particularly spectacular plunging gorge to be seen at 7240 4660. Proceed NW for about 1.3km, keeping the cliffs well to your right, the terrain firm underfoot, mostly gently sloping. Benwiskin summit is completely unr ... Click here

SOUTH: Tread carefully

Beautiful as it is, Cnoc na gCapall can prove a deadly beast with its precipitous cliffs, especially in Winter, recounts MV member Onzy. Onzy on Cnoc na gCapall: Tread carefully
The descent west from Cnoc na gCapall and the subsequent ascent of Bascadh is over very confused terrain. While the fence is your handrail for the entire march over these tops, it will be necessary to depart a few metres from its comfort from time to time to avoid unfeasibly steep ground. This was particularly so today, a beautifully clear and sunny day, but very cold, with a lot of the rock car ... Click here

SOUTH: Quite bearable...
One of the best walks on the Beara peninsula is the perimeter of Gleninchaquin, and anyone tackling the route anti-clockwise with surplus energy may well find thomas_g's track of interest. Beyond the usual final top of Knocknagorraveela are three more summits; the track submitted approaches from the east but thomas_g believes that coming in from the west would be easier underfoot. This is a smashing area of glaciation and ancient humanity, and is more than uncommonly imbued with great views.
thomas_g on Caha Hourglass
Park at wide road junction V889664 (room for 1-2 cars). Foll walk, Length:14.3km, Climb: 744m, Area: Derrysallagh, Caha Mountains (Ireland) Derrysall Click here

SOUTH: Rubbish!
Member hivisibility reports on the sad sight of asbestos tiles dumped in the middle of nowhere in the Nagles Mountains.
hivisibility on Knocknaskagh: Bahh!!
Following a recent walk in the Nagles I came across this rubbish pile while descending Knocknaskagh back to the Castleblagh car park. Looks to be mostly asbestos tiles. they went fairly out of the way to dump this. Any advice as to who could be informed of this? Click here

SOUTH: The siren call of the sweet trolley...
Away from the beaten tracks in Iveragh is a wealth of deeply rewarding and prodigiously rough hill country. Those who survive the transit from Killarney to Moll's Gap (and can resist the temptations of the cakes in the Avoca cafe) along the N71 can make use of the track submitted by Onzy along the Boughil ridge just to the west. These hills bristle with bare rock and convolute constantly; with that in mind Onzy can be forgiven for allowing time pressures to cut short his route, so his three tops could logically be upped to four by finishing off with Knocklomena.
Onzy on West of Moll's Gap
Route over Boughil, Cnoc na gCapall and Bascadh, beginning a walk, Length:7.5km, Climb: 602m, Area: Boughil, Dunkerron Mountains (Ireland) Boughil, C Click here

SOUTH: Dramatic glacial valley in the Cahas
A new updated summary for both Knocknagorraveela and its NE Top.
group on Knocknagorraveela: Access (from) all areas
From a summit baggers perspective, it's most likely you'll be approaching from the Beara Way via Derrysallagh and/or Knocknagorraveela NE. The approach from Knocknagorraveela NE is straightforward, but care needs to be taken if you are taking the direct route from Derrysallagh as the area around the river in the valley between the tops has some nasty hidden holes. Another place to start is at the ... Click here

SOUTH: Come Comeragh Way
There are excellent walks in the Comeraghs, both North, South and whole way end to end. In this nice southern circuit CaptainVertigo manages to bag all of 7 available tops. Weather at this time of year is a major factor up here and a perfect weather window provided good conditions. From start to finish there are fantastic views, providing the weather is kind. Good navigation is essential as the track takes you along many dangerous cliff tops, but then that is all part of the excitement of this area. Maybe the weather was closing in or it was getting too late in the afternoon but I would have tended to head across from Fauscoum to include the lovely Knockaunapeebra and then dropped down to the same finish point.
CaptainVertigo on Comeraghs South
To be added walk, Length:21.0km, Climb: 753m, Area: Coumaraglin Mountain, Comeragh Mountains (Ireland) Coumaraglin Mountain, Seefin, Coumfea West Top Click here

EAST: Summit finally pinned down!
The precise summit of Slieve Maan in Wicklow has provoked much debate over the years, but modern technology has finally provided the answer. (Well, it reestablishes what the Victorians had established.)
jackill on Slieve Maan: Maan on the Move
Well we finally got to it. A glance through the comments will show that the twin summits of Maan have caused debate on the site for some years now. Simon and I got around to surveying both of them in November 2013. The results are interesting on two counts. Neither summit made 550 meters and the highest is not that shown on the map up to this point by MountainViews. We measured the North east ... Click here

EAST: And soon the darkness...
In general a walk up the access road to Kippure would seem scarcely worthy of even a passing mention, but CaptainVertigo's execution and description have turned it into something very definitely 'else'. His ascent in the midst of the dark of a November night is laudably creative in itself, but his prose makes the enterprise sound like the most logical-yet-fantastic thing in the world. It's certainly made this reader contemplate similar adventures combining 'the witching hour' and 'Divis'.
CaptainVertigo on Something of the Night
The notion that anyone would upload a track essentially show walk, Length:6.8km, Climb: 228m, Area: Kippure, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Kippure Click here

EAST: Right On Track
Well within easy reach of Dublin and Wicklow walkers and providing secure car parking, this circuit by nkenealy uses well defined tracks to complete a lovely high-level circuit in just over 4 hours. After a short warm-up walk, the climb up the steps to the Spink gets your blood pumping but the views down over the lake are well worth the effort. Combined with the southern half of the circuit which looks out over Glenmalure this is a great day out. The bonus here is that you have great views out over of two great Wicklow valleys for minimal effort and can easily bag at least 3 tops along the way.
nkenealy on Derrybawn Mullacor Lugduff Horseshoe
Start from Glendalough Car Park and up to Derrybawn and arou walk, Length:11.5km, Climb: 640m, Area: Derrybawn Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Der Click here

EAST: Straightforward ascents for great views.
A new short summary of Slieve Foye in the Cooley Mountains, one of the most climbed summits in the country.
group on Slieve Foye: Straightforward ascents for great views.
Slieve Foye, the County Highpoint of Louth, sits dramatically above and to the south of the entrance to Carlingford Lough. There are mountain views NW along the Cooleys and distant views of the Isle of Man however this place is famous for its southern perspective of the Mournes. As of 2013 it was the 31st most logged mountain in Ireland. There are several semi-formal tracks from the Carlingford ... Click here

EAST: Dublin City Limits
Very close to the fleshpots of Dublin is simon3's track over the hills around Glencree. His submission contains as much practical information as one could wish for regarding parking, potential pitfalls and possible extensions (although Prince Arthur's Seat isn't that far off piste from here either).
simon3 on Dublin Mountains from Glencree.
This walk started from the Glencree Reconciliation Centre. walk, Length:19.7km, Climb: 656m, Area: Knocknagun, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Knocknagun, Click here

EAST: One for the kiddies
If you want to get your kids started into hillwalking early, Member Inigoalana recommends Little Sugar Loaf, as does his/her 4 year old!
inigoalana on Little Sugar Loaf: Easy and interesting climb for young lads
Climbed it with 4 year old lad this morning. Not a bother for him!! Just needed a little help near the top when walking on scree. Up and down in 1.5h (we stopped for a while at the top to take in the great views). Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


OSi Mapping Developments and what you can do.
Sample section of 1:25,000 Adventure Series map for Killarney National Park. This section of the map above shows some of the features of the new map. (Can I mention the finished result looks a lot better than this scan?)

* In the top left can be seen field boundaries. These are faint so as not to obscure contour lines.
* At the bottom right there is a summit now with the name Caora Bhan (Gaelige) / Sallagh (English). As far as we know these names are from the compilation as published by MountainViews.
* Caora Bhan (570m) has one of the classification dots from MV as already used on the 1:50,000 series. Since these dots are only placed on summits which have a definite minimum prominence, their presence distinguishes the summit from other spot heights such as 551 to the NE. On the ground 570 (Caora Bhan) has obvious prominence while 551 does not so you could tell which you were at.
* The 1:25,000 map has included MV names such as Beann South West Top and Beann Far South West Top. MountainViews has a name for every summit meeting specific criteria, creating derivative names such as this where necessary. All these summits are on the Vandeleur-Lynam list.
* At the NE corner of the map is summit "Cnocan na Muscraíoch". As yet this is not a summit listed by MountainViews because as far as we know its prominence is less than 30m. However this is arguable and we would hope to measure the prominence with a differential GPS to be sure.

The second section of the map shows more detail (again a bit blurred in the scan) from the middle of Macgillycuddy's Reeks. A 1:25,000 map uses four times the area on the map to represent a given piece of land as would a 1:50,000 map. This means that contour detail can be shown more clearly. The contours in use are from the same vectors used for the 1:50,000 maps, themselves derived from photogrammetry in the 1990s. As yet we have not seen the more accurate lidar based height measurement for small scale mapping, probably because lidar height measurement has only be done for selected areas of Ireland. The same vector contours are also used for the OSi MapGenie contours presented on this website.

It is proposed that the areas for maps would include:

Derryveagh Mountain & Glenveagh National Park
Lugnaquilla & Wicklow National Park
Croagh Patrick & Sheffry Hills
The Twelve Pins, Maamturks & Connemara National Park
Nephin Beg & Ballycroy National Park
and possibly 15 others.

Regional or experienced help wanted
MountainViews were asked to comment and assist with these maps as were a number of agencies (MI, Mountain Rescue, Defence Forces, Scouts etc). As you can see from examples above, a number of our suggestions were adopted. At short notice we were able to draw together useful information from MountainViewers with experience of the Kerry area and also from name expert and member Paul Tempan. Suppose however you know something about some of the other proposed areas as mentioned above and are aware of deficiencies in the existing maps? Get thinking about concrete suggestions please! Could be about known routes, names wrong, lakes not shown, significant ruins, bothies, bridges, streams to be shown, forest tracks, car parks not shown etc etc.

Register your interest in assisting by emailing . When we are asked to comment on specific areas we can then contact you again - this is likely to be well into 2014.
You probably never thought this was both natural and possible.
Plutonic cancer developing? Click here.

MORF report by Peter Walker
The six-monthly meeting of the Mourne Outdoor Recreation Forum took place on Wednesday 20th November in Newcastle, an event organised by the Mourne Heritage Trust and attended by various bodies interested in the usage and maintenance of this famous and much-used range of mountains. Topics under discussion at this gathering included:

1) A recent trip to the Lake District and the Yorkshire Dales conducted by Mountaineering Ireland to examine those areas and their approach to footpath erosion control. Also broached during the evening were current and recent footpath works in the Mournes themselves.

2) Initial findings from event monitoring conducted in the Mournes during 2013.

3) Proposals for a Mournes Outdoor Recreation Strategy. Fiona Barbour of Outdoor Recreation NI gave a presentation; interested parties should visit their website. In particular they may find the document outlining the strategy for the Sperrins to be relevant, as it was constructed using similar forms of consultation.

4) Memorials on mountain summits.

The subject of the recent proliferation of stark fencing in the hills in Ireland was also discussed: I will post more on this topic in due course.
Anyone wishing for further details should contact me via the messaging service on MountainViews.
On a personal note, I have paid a visit to some of the more recent path works in the Mournes, in particular those on Slieve Binnian's summit ridge. Putting aside the question of whether any works should have been carried out in the first place, I found the path from the Back Castles to the North Tor to be much more sympathetic to its surroundings than the thoroughfare leading down to the Lamagan col. The former bears a decent resemblance to the subtle stalker's paths one gets in the Scottish Highlands; the latter is not now quite as livid a scar thanks to nature dulling the surface of the laid rock, but still looks far too much like a haphazard rockery in its lower reaches.

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

You may have to go see the Maan again.
User entered comment Text: Well we finally got to it. A glance through the comments will show that the twin summits of Slieve Maan in Wicklow have caused debate on the site for some years now. Finally Simon and I got around to surveying them in November 2013. The results are interesting on two counts. Neither summit made 550 meters and the highest is not that listed up to this point by MountainViews. We measured the North east top (MV current summit) at 546.134 meters. We measured the South west top at 547.819 meters. So the summit location changes.
Harry Goodman on Slieve Maan
Pleased to see that jackill and simon3 have surveyed the respective heights of the two tops of Slieve Maan and have now determined that the SW Top is higher by almost 2 metres. This is in line with the old 6 inch map which showed the SW Top as the higher. All I can add is that thankfully, when I climbed Slieve Maan earlier in the year thinking the NE Top was the accepted high point, I also climbed ... Click here

Revised, improved GPS map available
Our member Pazapas continues to develop his map of Ireland for use on your GPS.
Pazapas on New Ireland Map v2.0.5 released
Here is the new version of Emerald Island Map. It introduces a new rendering style with the goal to increase contour lines readability. For that purpose, BGD and DEM layers are a bit desaturated. Forests and scrubs areas are also displayed with more transparent patterns. You may like or not, let me know if it is better. Enjoy your walks ! PS : also av ... Click here

Hills, thrown down

Peter Walker writes: Done both of them numerous times (peering over the edge of the Tooth is one of the most horrifying experiences I've ever had in the mountains) so it doesn't really affect the bagger in's a pity about Knight's Peak's demotion but it was always a contentious one.

MountainView-tube, part 2...

MountainView-tube, part 2...
This month's auteur of altitude is Gerry Mcveigh. Gerry has been supplying us with a constant stream of beautifully judged little films for quite some time now, his compositional skills and love of shots of his own passing boots inevitably succeeding in making the mountains look at least as fantastic as they actually are (and in the case of the Sperrins, often a fair bit better). He took a break from his wanderings (and the growing of a very impressive moustache for Movember) in order to answer a few questions about his art...

Any previous filmmaking experience?

None at all.

How many of you are involved in making the films?

Just myself. I find this works best for me and have never been really happy when filming others.

How much time does it add to your walk?

Up to 50% with all the stopping and setting up and putting away of camera and tripod, although less if use natural features such as fence posts, rocks and the ground

What hardware/software do you use for filming/editing? How long does editing take?

Use a Canon DSLR which is a hefty beast.

For editing use the simple and easy Windows Movie Maker, have tried other more high end software which had more features but went back to what I know well and can use very quickly.

How do you make your music choices, and do you think the music is important?

I find this one of the more challenging aspects of making short films and feel is crucial to the mood and feel. I tend to go with more upbeat music having had feedback from viewers when using Clannad/Enya songs initially. This can be current chart music or gems picked up through watching other stuff on youtube. It can be a nightmare with copyright as can lead to film not being viewed at all, blocked in certain countries or on mobile devices, which are becoming increasingly used. I tend to upload and keep the film unlisted to test this first and then make public if no issues.

Will you rise to my challenge and include 'Yakety Sax' from The Benny Hill Show on your next film?


What do you enjoy most about doing it?

Like photography it can increase awareness of what is around me when in the hills, keeping alert for interesting features near and far, on the ground or in the sky. It tends to mean more time in the hills which is a positive in itself. I also enjoy following up with the editing, adding the music and publishing the finished film. It sort of extends the experience of being on the hills. It is also a great record of places i have been and feels more real than photos.

Why did you start?

Have also been keen on photography and had a liitle compact camera with video capability so starting taking short video clips on their own then proceeded to experiment with Windows Movie Maker and thought hmmm......

Tips or tricks for wannabe Leni Riefenstahls?

You show your age and so do I in knowing who she is!
Short clips up to 10 seconds make editing alot easier. Good light (as with photos) makes all the difference. It is easy to want to put all your footage in but less can be more Good footage makes for a good film A couple of visits to a location may be needed and is okay The more I do the easier it gets in a way as become tuned in to what might make a good video clip. This is the same for editing. Speeded up footage can be good to include to show cloud movement etc, I have shot up to 5 mins in a static position and speeded up x 8 Add in captions to give information, though not overload Music should not be overpowering and detract from the film I tend to remove sound of video clips and overlay with music but sound of water works well and this can be faded in and out for individual clips

Interview of gerrym by Peter Walker.

A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

As members will know, for over a decade, has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... Click here

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. 123cba, Abedgebeejurn, adimurphy, amandaboland123, Ballbreaker, barefeet, BifariZer, Calortiottext, CarninyWull, ccollin, coilinmacl, Darraghfitz, denislogan, diarmuidoc, dmallen, Dublina, fedok, GerLeahy, Gerrycastleknock, hillwalker27, inigoalana, JanBerg, jarrieta, jazzours, jean-barden, johnbollix, joselilloweb, KevT, Magsamillion, maxi01, Mjp, patdoc, pjmcauliffe, quantummess, rabsterr, rennoco46, RichScott, robboughton, Roismcmullin, RokerRoar, rward, Scorcher, sdsd1, stephenwallace, Swords, Talloires, TheHook, thomasbaker, Turk144, walt, westgp, willable, Zennor (53)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Aidy (2), Ben Quinn (1), BleckCra (12), CaptainVertigo (9), Colin Murphy (4), Conor74 (5), Eugbug (1), Fergalh (1), Harry Goodman (5), KevT (3), Moneenman (1), Onzy (8), Peter Walker (2), RokerRoar (1), Wilderness (1), aidand (2), brenno (1), coilinmacl (1), eamonoc (8), fingalscave (1), gerrym (1), Communal summary entries (19), hansumstranga (1), hivisibility (4), inigoalana (1), jackill (2), kierongribbon (1), march-fixer (3), markod (3), markwallace (2), nkenealy (2), omurchu (1), pdtempan (2), simon3 (12), thomas_g (2), wellaway1 (1), wicklore (2)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors

There were comments on the following summits Ballyarthur Hill, Bascadh, Belmore Mountain, Benbulbin, Benwiskin, Bingorms, Binn idir an dá Log, Bruse Hill, Carrick Mountain, Cloghervaddy, Cnoc na gCapall, Collon Hill, Corn Hill, Croaghagranagh, Croaghan Hill, Croaghbrack, Croaghconnellagh, Cullaghacro, Knockboy, Knocknaskagh, Knocknaskagh N Top, Lavagh Beg, Little Sugar Loaf, Lugnaquilla, Mount Oriel, Moylussa, Mweelrea, Owenreagh Hill, Seahan, Seefin, Slieve Glah, Slieve Maan
and these tracks Boughil, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, Camenabologue, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Coumaraglin Mountain, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Derrybawn Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Derrysallagh, Caha Mountains Ireland, Kippure, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Knocknagun, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Saggart Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Silvermine Mountains W Top, Shannon Ireland, Slieve Donard, Mourne Mountains Ireland, Slieve Gallion NE Top, Sperrin Mountains Ireland, Slieve Gallion, Sperrin Mountains Ireland, White Mountain, Sperrin Mountains Ireland tracks and these walks were created (none in period)

Thanks to all 1101 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 6431 comments about 1056 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1057). We want to get a good gps track showing the major ways up every summit in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have one for every summit also. There's a few (1) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • Report suspicious activity to the police forces, as below.
  • If your car is broken into in an upland area report it to the PSNI or Gardai as this will help them be aware of the issue and tackle it in future. Store the numbers. In Northern Ireland use the PSNI non-emergency number 0845 600 8000. In the Republic you can find the local Garda District HQs phone numbers at
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as GPS tracks.
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