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October 2013



EAST, WEST, NORTH and SOUTH Route ideas and places to go, also Italy and Wales

Walkers Association: Winter Talks series resuming. The first talk is on walking in the Picos in Spain also
Thanks Mountaineering Ireland, MI acknowledges us on their revised website

MountainViews needs your help., The community needs you to do something. also Clarifying access issues, Official guidelines are worth reading. Also see MI position.

VIDEOS: gerrym in the Comeraghs A second bite of the cherry. The Knockanaffrin ridge.

We could use your help with this.

Two requests. Buy our book - ask for it in bookshops.
To sell our book A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits there's two great times: Spring and Christmas. We hit one by by launching in March and now we need your help for Christmas. This book makes a great present for anyone interested in hillwalking - it has something for the whole island. Buy some as presents! You can get them from the publisher, Collins Press in Cork, or through Amazon.

Also from bookshops and here's our second request. If you can't find them in a bookshop, ASK the manager to stock it. Particularly in gear shops and bookshops which have hillwalking books. Members who have tried this tell me they got a good response. It may take more than one ask!

Help us to get the book in shops for the Christmas period. Help us make a case for future editions or versions. Help spread the word about hillwalking and MountainViews

Publisher sales: www.collinspress.ie or Amazon here www.amazon.com

simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

As members will know, for over a decade, Mountainviews.ie has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... Click here


Winter Talks Series 2013/ 2014
Weds Oct 30th 2013. Picos de Europa - A nearby but hidden jewel of Spanish hill-walking. Drawing on fresh and immediate experience Nollaig O'Ceallaigh, member of the Irish Ramblers Club and of the Walkers Association Committee, will present an illustrated talk on walking in Los Picos de Europas, Northwest Spain. Nollaig co-led a walking group there this year and so has first hand and recent know-how about the area, which is just 3 hours from Dublin by air. Following the talk there will be Q&A and an opportunity to meet others.

Weds Nov 20th 2013. Talk about maps, mapping and the Ordnance Survey by Dominic Cronin. Dominic promises an interesting and varied talk based on his experience in Ordnance Survey Ireland. Following the talk there will be Q&A and an opportunity to meet others.

WAI talks are held in the Landsdowne Hotel, 27 - 29 Pembroke Road, Dublin 4 unless otherwise stated. Directions here http://www.lansdownehotel.ie .
Entrance is free. There is an optional collection to cover costs. The excellent bar facilities allow you to have a drink with other hillwalkers after the event. Why not have a meal also?

For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.
WAI Photo Gallery - WAI would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

MOUNTAIN MEITHEAL: the following are upcoming work days for 2013:
06/10/2013 19/10/2013 03/11/2013 16/11/2013

This is the view from Y Lliwedd East Top, in Snowdonia, Wales. Picture from member kernowclimber.Click for more.

In short: Discovery

NORTH: Out of a clear blue sky
Slievelamagan in the Mournes is the perfect viewing platform for seeing the Mournes at their finest, particularly on a blue-sky day, reports paulocon.
paulocon on Slievelamagan: Great viewpoint
A quite fantastic location for viewing the Higher Mournes. The walk across the inner spine of Beg, Cove and onto Lamagan is an interesting and recommended one. Found the approach from this side easier than the tough pull up from the Binnian/Lamagan Col Click here

NORTH: A satisfying slog
Slow, soggy and rough underfoot is how Geo found his ascent of Binn Bhán NE Top in the Bluestacks, but the views made it all worthwhile.
Geo on Binn Bhán NE Top: Slow going but worth it!
Started this round of the two Binbane's and their neighbour Cloghmeen Hill by parking at approx G825884 at an old house on the right. Followed the boreen NE to junction where Bluestack Way diverges, turning right uphill along a slightly poorer but nonetheless excellent surface - this road is only one car wide so driving on here would cause parking and meeting farm traffic issues!. At the end of ... Click here

NORTH: A Donegal cure for your eye problems?
Near the top of Slieve Snaght in Inishowen is a well which will supposedly cure your eye problems, and if that doesn't work, the tremendous views might do the trick, reports Simon3
group on Slieve Snaght: Boggy footed summit with great sea and mountain views.
Various routes are available for this summit, the only Vandeleur-Lynam on the Inishowen peninsula. One place to start is from the unfenced road at around C4426 3722. While not an inspiring route due to the wet untracked and vegetated terrain, this has the merit of making it easily possible to also go to Damph. Another eastern route uses the bog road starting at C 450393. Or it is possible to ... Click here

WEST: Rocky mountain high
The high, rocky slopes of Knocknahillion in the Maamturks provide as wild, windy and deserted a place as a hillwalker could wish for, reports markwallace.
markwallace on Cnoc na hUilleann: Knocknahillion from the west.
Climbed Knocknahillion from the west on a slightly overcast September day, setting off from the point where the western way meets the Ilion road (around L859 533). I took the route along the stream that goes up to the left of Knocknahillion (from that vantage point), and followed it up about 430m - a stiff but straightforward climb - into a high sheltered hollow with peaks on three sides, a rocky ... Click here

WEST: A satisfying island summit
A short ferry ride from the mainland followed by a relatively short walk/climb will take you to Clare Island's majestic highpoint, Knockmore, reports Djouce
group on Knockmore: Clare Island High Point
Knockmore has great views over Clew Bay. In many ways it is similar to its larger cousin, Slievemore, on Achill Island. There are sea cliffs on the northern slopes, which make it dangerous to climb in poor visibility. It can be approached over open country from the east ( a track leading from the road behind the post office) or west (from the signal tower). The ascent is steep over grassy (some ... Click here

WEST: Mountain from Wicklow climbs mountain in Mayo shocker...
One of the more extensively armoured mountains in Ireland is the ominous bulk of Mweelrea, skulking like an angry watchdog over Killary Harbour on the western seaboard, buttressed by huge cliffs and perpetually pebble-dashed by hardcore weather. Its slopes relent a tad to the north-west; here, it's only defended by the length of the drive to get there. Djouce has tracked the straightforward plod up this long incline while noting the potential access difficulties hereabouts. Handy on a day of poor conditions but a clear day should provoke a different choice of route up this magnificent mountain.
Djouce on Mweelrea from West (Dadreen)
Easier way up Mweelrea from Dadreen - long slope (boggy in p walk, Length:18.5km, Climb: 1556m, Area: Mweelrea, Mweelrea Mountains (Ireland) Mweelrea Click here

SOUTH: Is this a record?
9 minutes and 30seconds from car to summit and back to car! That's how long it took eamonoc to conquer Knocknamuck.
eamonoc on Knocknamuck: Tipp Mt Haven
Easily ascended Knocknamuck from point (Point A) S31527 54926 via good path, it took 9mins 30seconds from car to car. Not much to say except that the views in all directions were fantastic, directly south Slievenamon, the Comeraghs, to the west the Devils bit and all its attendant sattelites, southwest the Galtees and the Knockmealdown Mts, Tipperary is a Mt Haven, to the east the Blackstairs. Tha ... Click here

SOUTH: The Cloonatics Have Taken Over The Asylum
The mountains surrounding the Cloon Lough are plenty adventurous enough even if you stick to the more widely acknowledged routes, but such conventions were anathema to peter1 when he decided to find a route to the SW top of Beann direct from the lake shores. He survived to tell the tale of both that and the descent from Finnararagh, although I was personally most impressed by his listening to Lyric FM all day while simultaneously retaining the will to live. It goes without saying that for the experienced hillsperson this is one of the most profoundly satisfying areas in all of Ireland, supplying all manner of long tough days on the tops; a haul well into double figures is possible.
peter1 on Peak bagging above Cloon Lough
I wanted to see if I could make a route up to Beann SW top f walk, Length:15.7km, Climb: 732m, Area: Beann SW Top, Dunkerron Mountains (Ireland) Bean Click here

SOUTH: Iron Man snapped in Kerry!
Member gfmurphy101 snapped some interesting shots of what is known locally as The Iron Man', 530m up Barnanageehy in Slieve Mish. Don't expect any superheroes though…
gfmurphy101 on Barnanageehy: The Iron Man
Climbed up there recently some pics I took of the 'Iron Man' and surrounds can be seen here http://gfmurphy101.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/the-iron-man/ Click here

SOUTH: Gerry McVeigh's Left Foot
gerrym has been out in the Comeraghs again, tracking the lovely walk over the Knockanaffrin ridge as described in John O'Dwyer's excellent guide to walking in Tipperary and Waterford. This is a very self-contained trip that can only really be linked to other tops if one doesn't return to the starting point (in which case it could be the start of a very long string of summits...see other tracks hereabouts). His video record manages to perform miracles with what was actually quite a hazy day; one hopes the walk is really as good as he's made it look. http://youtu.be/NsXkJlzGjqs
gerrym on Knockanaffrin Ridge
http://youtu.be/NsXkJlzGjqs A superb walk in the stunning C walk, Length:15.8km, Climb: 734m, Area: Knocksheegowna, Comeragh Mountains (Ireland) Kno Click here

EAST: The great ladybird invasion
Scorching sun, views of Wales and a colourful 'flock' of ladybirds climbing the trig pillar were some of the joys experienced by peter1 on Croghan Kinsella
peter1 on Croghan Kinsella: Yet another
CK was my final 600m peak in the Dublin/Wicklow and Blackstairs areas and I climbed it yesterday on the way back to Limerick from a social event in Kildare. The weather was superb, my rucksac thermometer read 23 Celcius! As I was 'just' peak bagging, I looked for a short route. Parking at the end of the road North of the NW spur, ( T120753) I noticed that there is a new fence which leads almost ... Click here

EAST: As tough as it gets in Wicklow
Very steep, eroded and physically demanding, is Tonelagee in the Wicklow Mountains, as experienced by new member Sarkuns
Sarkuns on Tonelagee: As Tough as it can be in Wicklow mountains
I was planing this climb since the start of the year. But I was a bit scared of this one. I didn't dare to Take Tonelagee alone so I was waiting for an opportunity to come along. And on 14913 I finally got the chance. With my friend and blessing from Irish weather goods we were able to walk my long prepared 20 km route. Glenmacnass Car Park ---> Tonelagee NE Top ---> Tonelagee ---> Stoney Top - ... Click here

EAST: Low cliffy mountain in the middle of the Wicklow massif
Carrigshouk, slap bang in the middle of Wicklow, is an easy one-off or a handy starter in a longer summit-bagging route, explains Simon3 in a new short summary.
group on Carrigshouk: Low cliffy mountain in the middle of the Wicklow massif.
Carrigshouk is probably seldom a target in itself but lends itself to being part of walks to the wilder parts of Wicklow west of the Military Road. Unusually it is steeper to the South East rather than North or North East. A obvious place to start from is around O1027 0525 or other places nearby. It is possible to ascend by heading more or less directly east from there - 60-70 minutes round tri ... Click here

EAST: I'm trying not to lose my head...
History has not recorded whether Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five recorded 'The Message' after a traumatic ascent of Barranisky, but indeed 'It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under'. onzy hasn't commemorated his trip up this most prickly of tops by recording a seminal hip-hop single, but he has uploaded a GPS track of it which is probably of more practical use. His accompanying notes further wallow in the gorse-encrusted agony and sorrow that the climb will involve, although one suspects it's one of the less anodyne hillwalking experiences out there.
Onzy on Barranisky: The Route
The only reason to visit Barranisky is as part of your Local walk, Length:4.8km, Climb: 144m, Area: Barranisky, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Barranisky Click here

EAST: Down Is The New Up
Back in Wicklow and the perverse satisfaction that comes from starting a circular walk at somewhere other than the lowest point. tbaines' track around Glenmacnass also gets the crux of the day out of the way first, starting as they do from the car park above the Waterfall and immediately crossing the river, before wending a way up Tonelagee and covering the perimeter of the valley anti-clockwise with a low point just above Laragh. The itinerary as described is fairly logical, but the stoic could conceivably add Mullaghcleevaun to the start.
tbaines on Glenmacnass Circuit
Park above waterfall, cross river , and up to Tonelagee. Do walk, Length:20.5km, Climb: 1000m, Area: Tonelagee NE Top, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Tone Click here

EAST: Start Your Engines...
Cramming a lot of up and down into a reasonably short distance is the Grade 1 walk from the recent Wee Binnians walking festival in the Mournes, and it's been tracked by notable turbo-charged mountain goat Dessie1. The route described covers Bearnagh, Commedagh (although they missed the actual summit, the slackers) and Donard, and gives an idea of the sort of place-to-place walks made possible by the topography of this particular range; one could extend the start by including Slieve Muck, or alter it completely by opening with Slieve Binnian. Whatever choice is made the going in these particular granite hills is generally a lot easier than those in Wicklow, and the scenery is far superior.
Dessie1 on Wee Binnian Walking festival Grade 1: 7 Sept 13
walk, Length:15.5km, Climb: 1257m, Area: Slieve Bearnagh, Mourne Mountains (Ireland) Slieve Bearnagh, Slieve Bearnagh North Tor, Slievenaglogh, Slie Click here

EAST: Within the woods...
Apparently unaware that it's not even Christmas yet, never mind Lent, onzy has submitted another bout of protracted jungle thrashing barely related to hillwalking with the ascent of Tievecrom, a cub summit to Slieve Gullion that's probably enthusiastically disowned by its dad. If you're into this sort of thing, well you're into this sort of thing (but there's something terribly wrong with you), well best of luck with what looks like 500m worth of briar and bramble that's scratching you when it isn't trying to impale you. The view's quite nice though. Allegedly.

WALES: Land Of My Fathers (so long as they were Welsh)
A MV boarding party set foot in Snowdonia late this summer for a meeting of minds with similar groups. Some hillwalking was thrown in, and one of the routes enjoyed was this extension to the classic Nantlle Ridge, a beautiful and dramatic walk over a mini-mountain range lording it over the western extremities of the National Park. Recent resurveying has raised the previously generally-ignored Mynydd Graig Goch over the crucial 610m mark (2000ft) often considered to constitute the boundary between a hill and a mountain over in Britain, and simon3's track will be of interest to anyone (cough) who did the ridge without including it. All I will add is that one should always do the complete ridge given the opportunity; it is one of Wales' very best hillwalks.
simon3 on Nantlle Ridge west end start.
After parking some distance to the SW as shown, take a turn walk, Length:5.7km, Climb: 334m, Area: Mynydd Graig Goch, Snowdonia (Britain) Mynydd Gra Click here

WALES: Green Grow The Rushes
Another product of the Snowdonia trip was an amazingly convoluted route up to and around Yr Eifl, a notable landmark (often visible from the east coast of Ireland) on the northern part of the Lleyn Peninsular, a salient of land a bit like Dingle but without Brandon or any renegade dolphins. simon3's track (made as part of a surveying trip so not designed to be repeated by those not engaged in such activities) provides a decent idea of potential routes of ascent of the hill from the south; it is possible to reach it using a spectacular coastal route from Trefor to the north, crossing above the spectacular headland of Trwyn y Gorlech.
simon3 on Yr Eifl and its three very distinctive neighbours.
Yr Eifl is often one of the most visible summits from the Du walk, Length:11.6km, Climb: 735m, Area: Yr Eifl, Anglesey and the Lleyn Peninsula (Britai Click here

ITALY: The Italian Job
mcrtchly and kernowclimber, continuing in their manic determination to be the most widely traveled hillfolk on MountainViews, have been for a short walk in the Italian Alps, incorporating multiple summits in the complex massif of Monte Rosa and taking the chance to partake of Western Europe's highest pint of draught beer. No mention is made in their notes of rurps, etriers, heel spurs or Stealth rubber, so this might be something the more hardened walker with a bit of Alpine training can aspire to (as opposed to the proper climber), and the scenery is quite something.
mcrtchly on A tour of some 4000m+ peaks in the Monte Rosa range
This two day trip starts at the Gnifetti hut at an altitude walk, Length:8.9km, Climb: 1073m, Area: Italy, Aosta Valley () Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


Mountaineering Ireland acknowledging us.
Mountaineering Ireland has been revising its website. We believe we put a substantial amount of information out there for hillwalkers. We were heartened to see what we hope is a reasonable and proportionate recognition of this on the revised website, hillwalking section. Take a look www.mountaineering.ie/hillwalking/MountainViews/default.aspx
Many thanks MI.

Amazing Rescue Department: Andes section.
"He was trying to cross the mountains from Chile to Argentina on foot because his motorcycle broke down." As any of us would. Read about it here.

The official position on visiting uplands - a leaflet produced by Comhairle na Tuaithe (CnaT)

CnaT is the government body ( in the Republic ) attempting to deal with the issues of recreational access in the countryside, a major problem in Ireland (north and south) and one that has been better addressed in other European countries. Recently they brought ot a leaflet "Recreation in the Irish Countryside - Property Rights, Obligations and Responsibilities" This is well worth a read if you aren't too sure about access rights in the Irish hills. View the complete document here.

Here are a couple of points made in the document.

A description is not a right of entry.

The inclusion of a route description in a printed or online publication, or a track on a map, does not of itself mean there is a right of entry, or that the landowner has granted permission. Where an opportunity arises, recreational users are encouraged to speak with landowners, and to ask if access is permitted on their intended route. In the vast majority of cases access will be allowed. This type of engagement makes a positive contribution to the relationship between recreational users and the landowning community.

This is very similar to what MountainViews says, for example in our "Conditions and Info". Perhaps we would add that not only should you find out about access on land you are crossing, where feasible, but you should share what you find out. By way of summit comments or track reports MountainViews makes such sharing easy. Let others know what the situation is, whether or not it is supportive of access and recreational use in a given case.
Many of us believe that ultimately only legislation will bring a balanced solution to allow responsible recreational use. However, even if such legislation were to come about, it would still be essential to talk to people who own land for example to maintain good relations, to plan appropriate access and to negotiate difficulties. A way of doing this is to collectively share what recreational users find out about landowners priorities.

What exactly is the legal position of an entrant onto lands?

The leaflet includes the following table, reproduced verbatim here, which shines some light on the issue by defining three categories of entrant: Recreational user, Trespasser and Visitor. Here's the table:

Note: the table is interesting, however it's well worth reading its full context.

Mountaineering Ireland comment on Comhairle na Tuaithe (CnaT)
MI has reviewed the appearance of the leaflet and indeed we are indebted to them for bringing it to our attention. Since CnaT was originally set up in 2004 MI has supported it. Many of us have become dissatisfied with the apparent lack of progress of this body. MI's most recent comment is showing a more nuanced approach, where they point out the failings as well as the advantages of CnaT as it stands today. See www.mountaineering.ie/aboutus/news/2013/default.aspx?iid=347

I think pointing difficulties out (constructively) is a good idea, because I believe it is important for MI not only to represent but to feed back the issues. Anyone can see MI does substantial work in liaising with official bodies (e.g. on the Coillte issue) but couldn't it do more in involving its membership and in public advocacy on issues such as access which are essentially political? If the CnaT approach isn't working and the Robert Dowds approach is not supported, what exactly is Plan B for MI?


Rising Summiteers
Last month we mentioned that we had created an improved Summiteers Hall of Fame and Records. We now have an improved Rising Summiteers list. This allows you to see how many summit climbs you have added in the last few months. Consistent with the Hall of Fame this listing now allows you to choose for display whatever of the eighteen lists we now have.
Choosing your lists of interest. You may be mostly into shorter lists like the County Highpoints or the Local 100 and not so interested in the others. You tell the system which lists you want to display in "List Options". You click on "Create list" and hey presto the table of counts will show your lists of interest. You can also click on "Save Settings & Create list" which means that your selection will be available next time.
The selection of lists is shared with the Hall of Fame.
Whatever selection of lists you have you can click on the list headings to see who has added the most climbs for a given list.
Compared with the older "Rising Summiteers" the new system incorporates more lists, allows selection of lists of interest, is faster and will in future be able to handle second or successive rounds. View it yourself at mountainviews.ie/summiteers/rising/ Summits in Britain
As mentioned we now also allow people to log what they have climbed in Britain. Some 24 people have logged tops in Britain so far. Certainly I have tried the feature myself and found my biggest problem is remembering where I had gone on trips 10 or 20 years ago. Still, it's quite good fun to get out the maps and try to remember. I know I have a few more to add.

Listing all of your climbs
If you look at the User Information page for a member (generally, this is a matter of clicking on their screen name) you should see their page. The "Recent Climbs" section shows the last 15 places they have logged as climbing. There is now a new option beside the heading that says something like "Show all 123" and when you click this it does what it says on the tin.
Currently this listing is based on when you Logged a climb to MountainViews. At some point in the future we may allow users to indicate when they actually climbed.

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

Video, showing comparison of MountainViews and the DoBIH measurement of a hill.
As mentioned last month, a party of MountainViewers visited Wales to discuss methods with hill surveyors in Britain. We were all agog to find out whether the two sets of gear from Trimble (MV) and Leica (DoBIH) would give similar height results. As we have explained before for hillwalking purposes an approximate position within a metre or two is fine for the horizontal, but for deciding what list a summit is in we need greater accuracy.
simon3 on Bwlch Mawr - MountainViews & DoBIH surveying
As mentioned in the Sept 2013 MountainViews newsletter, we were comparing notes with hill surveyors in Britain. The link below takes you to the video of the first hill we surveyed - Bwlch Mawr. This is one of the hills visible from Wicklow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsoN7KeVyKY Many thanks to Myrddyn Phillips for this. He also said "When the other videos are uploaded I'll send the li ... Click here

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. bbyrne, BeardySi, borderline, brennan123, Bridie-Hills, butterflybreda, cdb51, cody1, cthrnjyc, Danger-Freak, deirdreherbert, donalcorkery, Drexil10, dromcarrig, dromoreblue, dubhgort, d_head, ebooksireland, eircom, elarbee, emmafirth, emtJimbo, feargalf, FFclub, francismurphy9, Glaslyn, goossen, GSheehy, iBovka, Jacqueline, jennycrowley, johnbarnard25, johnnymac, jojtek, josephhanlon, latlon91, laujkelly, Mairsey, manofthestones, markskelton, maxmunro, mfinan, MichelleMc, mkosach, MoD, Niallaght, nsinnott, oram, Posiedon, ppower54, ppschweppe, Reachtaire, seanc78, SenoraGretchen, Skidge40, spalpeeno, spedwardes, tomar, tomtraubert, Umami5, Vikingr2013, wgh, wibarelds, wile, zig (65)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Aidy (1), BleckCra (18), Conor74 (5), David-Guenot (3), Dessie1 (1), Djouce (1), Fergalh (1), Geansai (1), Geo (4), Harry Goodman (4), Mulciber (1), Onzy (9), Peter Walker (1), Sarkuns (1), Ste (1), Wilderness (1), ahogan (1), concorde (1), eamonoc (8), eflanaga (1), elarbee (1), gerrym (2), gfmurphy101 (1), Communal summary entries (10), jimhol53 (1), jlk (1), joemountain (1), larrylampwick (1), lekasa (1), lennyantonelli (2), march-fixer (1), markwallace (1), mcrtchly (3), mrw (2), paulocon (1), peter1 (2), ronanoscollain (1), sandman (1), simon3 (15), tbaines (9), wicklore (2), wwwalker (1)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors

There were comments on the following summits , Ballycumber Hill, Ballycurragh Hill, Barnanageehy, Barranisky, Benduff, Binn Bhán, Binn Bhán NE Top, Bruse Hill, Carrauntoohil, Carroll's Hill, Clomantagh Hill, Cnoc Íochtair, Cnoc na hUilleann, Croaghnamaddy, Crocknafarragh, Croghan Kinsella, Cruach na Míol, Divis, Eskaheen Mountain, Farbreague, Garraunbaun, Inishturk, Kilduff Mountain, Knocknamuck, Lugnaquilla, Mullaghnarakill, Slieve Beagh, Slieve Carn, Slieve Maan, Slieve Rushen, Slievelamagan, Taobh Dubh, Tonelagee, Tory Hill
and these tracks Barranisky, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Beann SW Top, Dunkerron Mountains Ireland, Brockagh Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Bwlch Mawr, Anglesey and the Lleyn Peninsula Britain, Carrigvore, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Craig Fach, Snowdonia Britain, Damph, Inishowen Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Foel Goch, Snowdonia Britain, Italy, Aosta Valley , Kells Mountain East Top, Iveragh NW Ireland, Knocksheegowna, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Laghtnafrankee, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Lugduff SE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Lugduff SE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Luggala, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Luggala, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Maulin, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Mullaghnarakill, Glenbeigh Horseshoe Ireland, Mweelrea, Mweelrea Mountains Ireland, Mynydd Graig Goch, Snowdonia Britain, Preban Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Scalp Mountain, Inishowen Ireland, Scarr, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Slieve Bearnagh, Mourne Mountains Ireland, Slieveanard NE Top, Galty Mountains Ireland, Slievemartin, Mourne Mountains Ireland, Tievecrom, Cooley/Gullion Ireland, Tonduff, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Tonelagee NE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Two Rock Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Yr Eifl, Anglesey and the Lleyn Peninsula Britain tracks and these walks were created (none in period)

Thanks to all 1088 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 6347 comments about 1053 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1057). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently around 49% There's some (4) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
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    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating. and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps as well as GPS tracks.
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