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June 2013




EAST, WEST, NORTH and SOUTH Route ideas and places to go, also New Zealand and Peru

VIDEOS: gerrym on Port kernowcritch on Peru

EVEREST book reviewed.

My Round of the Arderins, Adrian Hendroff




2012 - 2013 Winter Talks Series
Full details here: www.walkersassociation.ie

The talk series is at an end for this season. The WAI committee has many new ideas for talks for the next season starting in Oct 2013 however if you any suggestions or would like to give a talk, do get in touch. The one remaining event before October is: More on Walkers Association here: www.walkersassociation.ie

For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.
WAI Photo Gallery - They would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?


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More information at www.pathsavers.org

Doo Lough and Finn Lough, from Ben Creggan South Top, Co Mayo, by Colin Murphy.

In short: Discovery

NORTH: A fine, granite top
Cronamuck in the Bluestacks offers solid granite terrain with magnificient views over the Owendoo River Valley, reports Simon3.
group on Cronamuck: Granite knob at the end of a ridge.
This summit can be reached using the ridge extending NE from Croaghbarnes and there are suggestions it could be reached from Commeen to the north on the R253. Cronamuck has views over towards Gaugin Mountain, Croaghbane and the magnificent but unfrequented Owendoo River valley. Underfoot Cronamuck and nearby is made of often bare worn granite. The summit appears to be an unattached boulder of p ... Click here

NORTH: As I squelched out one Midsummer morning...
Onzy has tracked and waxed lyrical (well, mentioned how wet and knackering it is anyway) about the three tops of the Slieve Anierin plateau. It's a substantial walk between each of the summits and they can't sensibly be linked to anything else, but the east-facing escarpment of the ridge is quite impressive and there's always the search for Anierin's trig pillar (a few inches high and marooned upon a delicate platter of peat hags and sucking bog) to look forward to.
Onzy on Slieve Anierin to Bencroy Circuit
Anti-clockwise walk taking in the three hills of the Anierin walk, Length:15.3km, Climb: 644m, Area: Bencroy, Breifne (Ireland) Bencroy, Knockacullio Click here

NORTH: Strictly for the baggers
The forestry on the summit of Soarns Hill in the Antrim Hills severely limits the views, and MV member slemish found the terrain a bit of a struggle.
slemish on Soarns Hill: Forested summit
Getting to the summit of Soarns Hill is difficult and the extensive forestry means that views are severely limited. But as it qualifies under MV prominence rules, off I went to climb it. I parked at the bottom of the access road to the Quolie reservoirs (174114). This is also a good spot to park if climbing neighbouring Carncormick. Unfortunately this route involves a lot of road walking - this is ... Click here

NORTH: Any Port in a storm...
The passing of another month can be marked in many ways, and one of them is examining gerrym's latest track-and-video offerings. The former consists of two fantastic trips from the Donegal coastal settlement of Port exploring a coastline commonly considered to be the most dramatic in Ireland even with the nearby competition of Slieve League. The first track wanders north to the end of Slieve Tooey above huge sea cliffs and past ridiculous sea stacks; the second heads the other way with the utterly ludicrous coastal citadel of Sturrall being the highlight. Between them these tracks net the princely total of one top (although the Slievetooey route could net two more to the resilient), but that's scarcely the point on routes like this. A peruse of Gerry's films will bear this out; the scenery is simply incredible. The films themselves keep getting better...some of the composition in these ones is wonderful and entirely justifies the amount of work that must have gone into filming and editing. I struggle to imagine their creator as a fan of indie popsters Two Door Cinema Club mind you.
gerrym on Walks Around Port 1
http://youtu.be/HMujfybkTuw A walk starting and finishing i walk, Length:17.7km, Climb: 817m, Area: Sliabh Tuaidh Far W Top, Donegal SW (Ireland) Sl Click here

gerrym on Walks Around Port 2
http://youtu.be/jq7O1tarPuQ A second walk starting and fini walk, Length:17.0km, Climb: 578m, Area: Donegal SW (Ireland) Click here

NORTH: Subterranean Homesick Bluestacks
Two tracks explore the near-pristine wilderness of Donegal's Bluestacks this month, covering a bit of overlapping ground. simon3's walk runs from the two tops of Ardnageer all the way to the lesser eminence of Cronamuck, nabbing six summits en route. A lot of very relevant further information is included with the track, as this is testing ground with some crazy contours and several rivers of which it is as well to be wary.
simon3 on Varied, strenuous wild Bluestacks walk.
This varied route explores the two Ardnageers, Croaghbane, C walk, Length:21.0km, Climb: 999m, Area: Ardnageer SW Top, Bluestack Mountains (Ireland) Click here

WEST: Peak of perfection
A long, gently rising, rocky ridge takes you to the top of one of the west's best tops. A new short summary for Ben Creggan in the Ben Gorm mountains.
group on Ben Creggan: Peak of perfection
Park at L888 673 (Point A) in the entrance to a Coillte forest. Cross the road and begin to ascend the long ridge on the eastern side of Ben Creggan. This is a fairly gently rising slope about 3km long, with the going underfoot fairly solid, mostly rocky. Ground becomes markedly steeper at point L864 667, and continues in this fashion for the remaining 750m climb, which will take you directly to t ... Click here

WEST: One of the finest small tops in Ireland
Sitting in splendid isolation, Lackavrea in the Maamturks is often ignored by baggers due to its lack of height, but to their loss, reports Colin Murphy
group on Farbreiga
Click here

SOUTH: You will, you will, you will, you will
Member thomas_g enjoys a 15 minute stroll up Knockbrack in Shehy/Knockboy and meets a friendly farmer and a granny who insists on filling him with tea!
group on Knockbrack: Tea Fathers?
A featureless top with wonderful 360 degree views. Best access is to park in the farmyard at V987 692 (thanks Conor74), with permission from the very friendly farmer. A quick walk back up the road, over the style and follow the track: 15 minutes and you'll be on top. (Be warned, conversations with the granny who lives at the farm will result in a cup of tea whether you want it or not: old style ... Click here

SOUTH: Knees Up Mother Brown
Marooned annoyingly in the Cork (?) hinterland between the easy bags of Turners Rock and Priest's Leap are the triplet tops of Barraboy Mountain. thomas_g has applied himself to their snaffling, and returned with a track that looks quite exploratory considering its relatively brief length. Refinements are a welcome inclusion in the accompanying text, and it should be noted that parties with access to two vehicles could manage an interestingly esoteric traverse over five tops from the Priest's Leap road to the tortured meanderings of the N71.
thomas_g on 2 hours 3 peaks
Parked at V93218 61229 (Point A) (barely room for one car) b walk, Length:7.1km, Climb: 475m, Area: Barraboy Mountain, Shehy/Knockboy (Ireland) Barra Click here

SOUTH: The Loo? The bog, more like.
Thomas_g ascends the little visited Carrigawaddra Hill in Mangerton via the Loo Bridge and is quickly bogged down to his knees.
thomas_g on Carrigawaddra: The Loo valley: yes you can!, but don't...
Parked at the gravel area at the road junction at Loo Bridge, walked towards Kenmare on the R569 to a gate, then followed the muddy track to a green field (savour it, it will be the last you'll see). Horrible horrible ascent over boggy tufts with ankle breaking opportunities by the dozen, with the occasional scramble to get over a rock shelf. The going alternates between knee deep dead grass and t ... Click here

SOUTH: The windmills of your mind...
Further up the N71 on the bounds of Iveragh rather than Beara lies an extensive tangle of rough country lurking around the back of Mangerton. Here lies the low(ish) top of Esknabrock, and thomas_g has tracked a quick ascent of it from the west (although the priorities of a man suggesting that summiteers should admire the various visible turbines BEFORE looking at Crohane need further scrutiny). This is a summit that stands well apart from any other tops on our lists, so is probably best considered as a filler in at the end of a day.
thomas_g on A quickie that's firm underfoot
Parking at W01494 72290 is just enough for one car, go throu walk, Length:3.7km, Climb: 263m, Area: Esknabrock, Mangerton (Ireland) Esknabrock Click here

SOUTH: Convenient wilderness
Mangerton itself is tracked by joemountain, whose version of the standard approach from the north goes around the west side of the Punchbowl before shlepping round to Stoompa on the way back. This is a good trip in big country that feels surprisingly 'remote' given its adjacency to the fleshpots of Killarney. By going around the other side of the Punchbowl it's easy to add Mangerton North and Glencappul tops on the ascent, and Stoompa East Top isn't too far away on the descent.
joemountain on Near Stoompa, Mangerton (Ireland)
walk, Length:14.3km, Climb: 852m, Area: Stoompa, Mangerton (Ireland) Stoompa, Mangerton Click here

EAST: Time trialling
Also on Onzy's radar this month was Moneyteige North, a Wicklow straggler ideal for those fancying a quick walk up something (or serious oxygen debt if you try to beat pn_runner's time of 32 minutes up and down...are you reading this, Dessie1?). Another hill best considered as an after-dinner mint rather than a main course, although one suspects it could be linked to Croghan Kinsella by someone who doesn't mind what orienteers call a 'fight'...
Onzy on Moneyteige North from the West
Probably the quickest route up Moneyteige North starting fro walk, Length:2.7km, Climb: 258m, Area: Moneyteige North, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Moneyt Click here

EAST: Blessington lakes revealed
The recent harvesting of a forest on Lugnagun has revealed a beautiful view over the Blessington Lakes, reports march-fixer.
group on Lugnagun: Superb Blessington Lake Views
Though not a summit to write home about, it still provides a wonderful grandstand view south out over Blessington Lakes and west to the Hill of Allen. Until recently (2013) pine trees obscure these lovely views from the summit. Now that this area of the plantation has been harvested there is a 360 degree panorama available. Lugnagun is an ideal launching pad for an attack on Sorrel Hill. From Lugn ... Click here

EAST: Long walk to Shankill
Possibly a viable training outing for either of these marathons is jrpcalvert's (and indeed Tim_Crooks') single-day trip over the best part of 30 miles of the Wicklow Way, hardly flat but including a manageable amount of ascent over its course. A couple of MV summits are included (although you'd reckon that including any more when engaged upon a route such as this might be over-gilding the lily somewhat) and handy public transport links enable the route to be done without the need for more than one car. Everyone should try a big long legstretcher like this at some point.
jrpcalvert on Dublin Mountains Way (adj)
GPS track for walk of Dublin Mountains Way from Tallaght to walk, Length:46.9km, Climb: 1015m, Area: Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Tibradden Mountain, Tw Click here

There is only one way to do the Dublin Mountain Way (DMW) an walk, Length:42.6km, Climb: 942m, Area: Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Tibradden Mountain, Two Click here

NEW ZEALAND: Log Cabin Fever
marchfixer's holiday snaps continue apace, with this month's selection including sections of the Routeburn Track, one of the most famous trails in New Zealand. 'Tramping' is one of the more well-established pastimes in the Land of the Long White Cloud, and this is an example of the Kiwi approach to environmental management (limiting numbers, necessity to book the mountain huts along the way)...would the inhabitants of this island ever stand for anything similar in our more compact and bijou uplands?
march-fixer on Routeburn Track - Day 1
This is the first day of one of the top walks in the world. walk, Length:13.3km, Climb: 802m, Area: New Zealand, Southland () Click here

march-fixer on Routeburn Track - Day 2
Early start and had a good breakfast. Packed up and headed o walk, Length:5.2km, Climb: 404m, Area: New Zealand, Southland () Click here

PERU: 'Give me the whip!' 'Throw me the idol!' 'Anyone got any marmalade sandwiches?'
Similarly renowned on a global scale is the Inca Trail in Darkest Peru, and the dynamic duo of mcrtchly and kernowclimber have taken a break from using man-made excavations to avoid sunburn to walk it, track it and provide some really useful information for anyone who aspires to complete this frequent entry in folks' Bucket Lists. This is also a managed/controlled walk but has the added bonus of possible acute altitude sickness thrown in. Easier than the Maum Turks though (apparently) but I bet tropical spiders are less of a worry in Connemara.
mcrtchly on Inca Trail
The classic 4 day (3 night) walk to Machu Picchu in Peru is walk, Length:34.5km, Climb: 2230m, Area: Peru, Cusco () Click here

Also, have a look at their really excellent video if you want to get a good idea of what reaching Macchu Pichu entails:
mcrtchly on Inca Trail video
We've posted a video of the Inca Trail trip which might be of interest to anyone thinking of doing this walk. http://youtu.be/LD6HGqGLhEA Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


Blessington Lakeside Walk
A newly emerging option in Wicklow
march-fixer on Blessington Lakeside Walk
Overview This walking track is just perfect for any family outing. The track is well over a metre wide at all points and the surface is good quality compacted hardcore. On the few soggy areas there are excellent raised walkways. There is no problem whatsoever in bringing a child's buggy or even a wheelchair, though it could be a bit bumpy! There is excellent parking at the the Avon Ri Hotel a ... Click here


volcanoes Volcanic Walking
During the month there was a discussion about walking in and around both current and old volcanoes. From a wide selection we thought this was one of the most interesting contributions.
brenno on Aeolian Islands, Sicily - Stromboli
For anybody going hiking in the Aeolian Islands, the ultimate target is Stromboli – one of the most active volcanoes in the world and which has given its name to the geological term strombolian – when molten fountains of magma are spurted out of the crater at regular intervals. Unlike the other volcanic destinations in the archipelago which involve easy climbs, Stromboli is a serious 924 metre ... Click here

There is a trip to Wales (30 Aug - 2 Sep) being mooted that people may find of interest also. The main purpose of this will be to allow hill-surveyors on both sides of the Irish Sea to meet, however there will also be plenty of time for hillwalking. Get in touch with admin@mountainviews.ie to express interest.

There is a Iveragh Long Walk being proposed.
Note: This is NOT a beginners walk since the route being proposed would be well up in the Challenge Walk class.
Conor74 on The “longest, hardest high level walk"
...in Ireland was how Paddy Dillon described a proposed walk across the tops of a number of the summits in his “The Mountains of Ireland”, stretching from the east end of the Mangertons and across the Dunkerrons and the heart of South Kerry. As I live between the two ranges and have spent many great days around both, I decided I would give it a go and see if I could maybe “open up” a new walk for ... Click here

and more
Conor74 on A Cloon Horseshoe "mini Scavvy"?
Think none of the Scavvies so far have tackled the Dunkerrons, and the Cloon Horseshoe at its heart - Mullaghanattin, Beann, Finnararagh and then moving all the way on to Knocknagantee and swinging north to Teermoyle and Coomura. Did it a few weeks back and put a walk description up here, was thinking if there are a few who want to do it over the summer might go there again and show off this corn ... Click here

New but Vintage BleckCra
Following His recent Second Coming, members who may have felt the need for the well-written and the controversial will find much delight in the "Stands with a Fist". This is an essay contrasting the magic of what we may have wanted with what we may get, written by the original Lone Ranger.
The preceeding piece "In Arcadia" is truely sublime - trying reading it out aloud to your special friend. I'm sure you'll get a smile - I know I did. BleckCra on STANDS WITH A FIST
A walking companion of mine, after a strenuous day in the Mournes complained about the final short ascent from the Brandy Pad track beneath Commedagh up on to the Saddle. Well he won't ever have to do it again because the white bags of rocks, untimely ripped from somewhere else have been landed on the track. We can expect fairy steps and painted handrails soon, wee powdered pink girls in pigtai ... Click here

New map of the Blackstairs, Mount Leinster and the Barrow
Barry Dalby announced this new map as below. We have included some brief comments by way of review later.
Barry on New map of Blackstairs, Mt Leinster & Barrow
This is by way of information rather than advertising. A variety of people who visit here might like to note that I have recently published a new map, 'Blackstairs, Mount Leinster & The Barrow Valley'. This map is at 1:25,000 scale printed both sides of the sheet with an overlap at the Scollagh Gap. It is printed on Enduro 100gsm paper, a tough water resistant and tearproof paper and retails at €9 ... Click here

Notes re East-West map.
In previous comment we have discussed the value of East-West hillwalking maps. We always liked the forest paths, the parking info, the historical detail and the better paper. We weren't so keen on some aspects such as the difficulty of reading conventional grid references off the map and some of the name choices.
However the new map rectifies many of the difficulties. The two significant digits of the easting and northing are repeated across the map so that when folded it is possible to determine the grid reference which is much better. Ground coverThere is now ground cover information so that we can get an idea of how hard it is to cross a piece of land.
Currently there is a classification for open land into a. scree/rocky area/sandpit b. peat hags/turf cuttings c. gorse/undergrowth. This is much better than nothing though it could be asked how it might be extended into other types of surface cover like rushes or smooth grass. With tree cover the legend distinguishes between various types of tree (conifer, broadleaved, mixed) but then has a separate colouring for "Coillte Forest". However not all Coillte forest is of any one type of trees, so that's a bit confusing. Nevertheless it is useful to show Coillte forestry distinguished from other ownership because Coillte almost always allows access but perhaps this might be done with a different surround to the Coillte owned areas?

There is the usual extra names that East-West Mapping has researched for their maps. In the absence of agreed or official confirmation for some of these names, it would seem to me that their provenance should be described and potentially discussed in an open fashion somewhere. An online database would be ideal.

East-West maps are using SRTM contour information which lacks the resolution of the OS or the private photogrammetry of Harvey's Maps. While we appreciate the cost of getting accurate contours is high a map of this resolution 1:25,000 ideally needs better accuracy.

Summit Positions Please
Personally I was in an area covered by the map recently, namely Brandon Hill. The map would have been very useful to me in improving on the somewhat tortuous route I took (Track 2026 if you want the hindsight view).

This summit is the high point of County Kilkenny and I think this fact can usefully be marked. In fact I think that the summits should be classified as to height using prominence to define that they are summits. There are various reasons for this: it shows at a glance in an area of complicated contours where the summits of reasonable significance actually are and it is useful for the increasing group of people who systematically visit summits. (There are over 1500 people summiteering using MV to record climbs.)

All in all however this is the best map available for hillwalking in the Blackstairs, Mount Leinster and the Barrow areas and represents quite an improvement in standard for East-West mapping.


The following has come in just before this newsletter was due to be emailed. The bill has been proposed by Robert Dowds (Labour). Here is part of an email he sent regarding the bill.

Just a quick note to let you know that the Access to the Countryside Bill 2013 was published last week and has been selected for debate in the Dáil on Friday, 14th June, at 10.30am. This is quite a historic feat in and of itself, as Ruairí's Bill of 2007 never got to the floor of the Dáil.
As you can imagine, this will generate quite a bit of interest in the media next week. If any of you organisations wish to support the Bill, I would encourage you to send out press releases to that effect between now and then. If you are going to do so, please CC me on the press release.

Here is an explanation, in part, from a memo on the bill.

Purpose of Bill
The purpose of this Bill is to provide for the public an orderly method of legal access to recreational lands that are held in various forms of private ownership. The Bill will ensure that private owners, whose land is declared to be access land, are fully indemnified from any legal action that a member of the public may take against them arising from an accident occurring on the land. The Bill is intended to provide for legal clarity between the rights of landowners

Note. MountainViews does not necessarily support or not support the bill, since we haven't yet read it, however it will be discussed in the Dáil next week so we are bringing it to members' attention.


Minor improvements.

The suggestion is that the list of summits for a mountain area obtained by asking for More Detail for the mountain area show whether or not the summit has been climbed. Message:This has now been implemented. Also, a minor fix has been made to more accurately show gps tracks. Before this fix sometimes the track was shown broken between different sections of the track of different speed. Often the pink line representing slow movement was broken or non existent for example.


Book review: Everest Calling : The Irish Journey by Lorna Siggins.
Publisher: The Collins Press
Published : April 2013
ISBN-13: 978-184889-1630
Price: €19.99 Hardback 214 pages

Unlike many mountaineering books which tend to be factual and prosaic, Lorna Siggins has managed to create an enthralling account of what it takes, both mentally, physically and financially, to attempt to climb the world's highest mountain. The word 'climb' is specifically used here in favour of 'summit', which becomes an important theme throughout the book. Rather than write about the adventure from interview notes at a distance, she took pride in actually accompanying the 1993 expedition on the climb. It is this personal involvement that allowed her to get beneath the gritty surface; to truly understand the hardship, exhaustion and deprivation and the effects these have on interpersonal relationships. One begins to understand how team cohesion is such a vital ingredient in such a venture.
High altitude mountaineering is a constant life and death gamble; the statistics are well documented. One has to examine the raison d'être that sparks one's fascination in such ventures. The commercialisation of sport is being driven by personal ambition as well as a goal oriented approach in order to attain the 'summit' by whatever means possible. There seems to be less emphasis now on self-development and independence. The love of mountaineering, for its own sake, is in danger of becoming lost in the rush to conquer - and tick another box. This book succinctly explains why the expedition approached from the north when it was relatively easier from the south.
Irrespective of your affections for one of the last true wildernesses, this is a gripping read that unfolds much like a detective novel. Suspense is built in an easy readable style. There is considerable discussion relating to the other expeditions that were also in the area and how weather and lady luck played their part. It is also interesting that this 20th anniversary edition follows the fortunes of these intrepid Irish climbers since that record breaking expedition and what further Irish attempts have since been made.
The quality of production is excellent with plenty of colour plates. The only quibble is that I would have preferred the numerous quoted sections to be in italics so as to make them easier to differentiate.

-- Tom Condon (MV Member)


By Adrian Hendroff

Completing the Arderins was something I didn't plan on doing at the outset, at least not upon finishing the Vandeleur-Lynams (VL) in 2009. There were of course, many hills between 500 to 600m that I had already done at that time, the well-known ones like Benbulbin, Great Sugar Loaf, Luggala, Slieve League and Torc Mountain; and some subsidiary tops like Aghla More, Benlettery, Búcán, Coomacloghane and Mackoght that I did not realised I had done during my round of the VL's.

On summit of Coomataggart, my final Arderin
It was not until I visited the splendid summit of Doan in the Mournes in the early part of 2010 during a recce for my book From High Places that I started to appreciate the beauty of our 500m to 600m tops. In the book, I write the views from Doan include "a circular cluster of brown peaks that soared like mighty giants, some summits rocky and rugged, other domes protruding in the distance like priceless pearls".

After that experience on Doan, curiosity got the better of me. I used further recces for my Southwest and Northwest guidebooks as excuses for visiting these 500m to 600m tops and in the midst discovered many more priceless treasures. For example, the bird's eye viewpoint of Beenatoor and Knockmulanane which features almost all the hills, valleys and coastline of Central Dingle and beyond, and the majestic coastal scenery with its sea-cliffs and offshore sea-stacks of Slievetooey in southwest Donegal.

One day, while ticking these 500m to 600m tops off on Mountain Views, I realised how close I was in completing the Arderins. When you get to about 40 summits away from finishing the list, then a plan starts to formulate. You go for it, and if you're lucky to half that amount to 20 then the peak-bagging fever really starts to kick in. Get that down to 10, and it becomes an all-consuming countdown. Completing any mountain list is a personal accomplishment, a personal goal, and for us in Ireland, what better way to have a go at a list than by doing the VL's or Arderins?

Looking out toward Broaghnabinnia from slopes of Brassel Mountain.
Most of the Arderins left on my list then were clustered in Cork/Kerry and Donegal, and the odd few in Antrim and the Sperrins. I'm glad I set off to finish these, as I've had many memorable mountain days to round it off. The steep slog up Brassel Mountain from Cummeenduff Glen in the Reeks, the magnificent viewpoint of Cummeenbaun in the Caha Mountains which resulted in an amazing 5ft panoramic Canon EOS composition and interesting forays into the rugged eastern Bluestacks in Donegal - to name but a few.

Finally at 17:42 on the 22nd of May 2013, I was fortunate to stand on the summit of my 404th and final Arderin on Coomataggart above Gougane Barra in the Shehy/Knockboy area. The weather gods have never been kind to me on my final summit day (I was rewarded with thick mist and horizontal rain on my last Irish 2000-er and VL in 2006 and 2009 respectively) but on this occasion the gentle wind, friendly clouds and blue sky greeted me. The views of West Cork and Kerry were as far as the eye could see. I felt content, happy and humbled at the same time.

Will I do another round of Arderins? Not in the immediate future, there's simply too many of them. I would certainly visit many of its summits again via new routes, or up lesser known spurs or gullies. I could be tempted in repeating the round of VL's in the winter, or if there's a charitable cause associated with it.

As a piece of advice, there are two essential tips I can give for anyone setting out to do the Arderins: (i) Have a plastic tube about 50cm long, slit into half along its length at the ready ...essential for crossing many-a-barbed-wire fence along the way, and (ii) Always check Mountain Views for the latest input on access to the summit you wish to ascend, especially for the 500 to 600m group of Arderins. It is certainly an invaluable resource!

Adrian Hendroff is a member of the Outdoor Writers and Photographers Guild, Mountaineering Ireland and Mountain Training Association. He is the author of 3 books: From High Places: A Journey Through Ireland's Great Mountains, The Dingle, Iveragh & Beara Peninsulas and Donegal, Sligo & Leitrim. For more details of Adrian's work, visit his website www.adrianhendroff.com

Beara panorama from Cummeenbaun

-- Adrian Hendroff (MV Member)

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

New release of the All-Ireland GPS map.
For many years this has been the main map that I have on my Garmin 76 and it's great to see that a revised version has been released.
Pazapas on GPS Ireland map 2.0.4
The new release of Emerald Island map is available. Summits data are updated (2013/05/05). OpenStreetMap.org data increased a lot last months. It should not be a huge issue for hillwalkers but seamarks data evolved a bit and their rendering changed. For interested people, visit OpenSeaMap.org. Enjoy your walks, The Link to the map : http://emerald-island.eu/wikka/GpsMap (version 2.0.3 is st ... Click here

Rules of Summiteering
Member sandman started a useful discussion about what constitutes reaching the top of a number of summits. This is becoming an issue as we extend the list to include sea-stacks and members find access limited places.
sandman on SUMMITS
I have noticed that 33 Mountain View members have recorded an accent of the summit of Sceilg Mhicil, a fantastic achievement for those individuals, especially when access is not allowed to the south peak and the physical climb is quite daunting. I am impressed especially when no-one has made a comment of reaching the top or recorded a photo of the actual sumit. So, fellow members, when exactl ... Click here

Adrian Hendroff finished the 404 Arderins.
Adrian has become the second person to finish the Arderins list of 500m summits. (Some three others have finished similar lists, as far as we know). We have included a piece by Adrian on this achievement.

MountainViews book in the shops.

A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

simon3 on A Guide to Irelands Mountain Summits
MountainViews first book available online and in many bookshops.

As members will know, for over a decade, Mountainviews.ie has been providing unique information to hillwalkers on all aspects of exploring and enjoying Ireland's upland areas. It's been a collaborative effort by over 1000 of you, and currently contains over 6000 comments on 1057 mountains and hills on the island of Ireland ... Click here

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. 77martinco, alannolan, andi_manuel, aoifeh84, barnatra, beaghmorejohn, beboydesign, BernardFarrelly, BleckCra, BrianMolloy, Bron, civitano, cmacro, cmcg, colm3, CoraC, Dan01, devcraw, dimser, donalhunt, dotter, Dunmurry, esther, finnymac, FrancesLouise, Frewilliam, fuzz77, gerrywardell, Guinness03, Hidge, hmbob, Husky, irishfinn, jayshi, JBruggeman, jimbyc, JNuttall, Johnmcgeady, kated, kavanae3, Kerlad59, kevgav1, kieranmoloney, leesteken, lendal1, liamkent47, Lisa74, Lisamck, majestic0110, maryf, meicha85, murraymilo, outandabout, paulmaguire, peigsayers, pipeline1, proactiveray, Rob_Lee, rosienilaoghaire, seanie, shanemcdermott, sicogan, SiFi, solsberi, somhairle, stephenocorrain, Wilson-Parr, xleith (68)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Ann-P (1), Barry (1), BleckCra (6), Colin Murphy (2), Conor74 (5), Geansai (1), Harry Goodman (2), LiamgMurphy (1), Onzy (5), Pazapas (1), Peter Walker (4), Tim_Crooks (7), Trailtrekker (1), YoungJohn (1), acorn (2), ahendroff (1), brenno (3), donalhunt (1), eamonoc (1), gerrym (2), Communal summary entries (23), hivisibility (1), jackill (1), jimgraham (1), joemountain (2), jrpcalvert (1), kevin carroll (2), lennyantonelli (1), march-fixer (12), mcrtchly (2), millsd1 (1), paddyhillsbagger (2), padodes (1), pdtempan (2), pplsgod (1), roberto (2), sandman (1), simon3 (13), slemish (1), thomas_g (11)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors

There were comments on the following summits Agnew's Hill, Barraboy Mountain, Barraboy Mountain SE Top, Barraboy Mtn Far E Top, Camaderry, Carrigawaddra, Carrigfadda, Carrigvore, Coolcurtoga, Cooneen Hill, Divis, Esknabrock, Knockomagh, Lackavrea, Lugduff, Luggala, Mangerton, Nowen Hill Far W Top, Silvermine Mountains Far E Top, Slieve Carr, Slievemore, Slievenisky, Soarns Hill, Stillbrook Hill, Tully Mountain
and these tracks Aghla More, Donegal NW Ireland, Antrim Hills Ireland, Ardnageer SW Top, Bluestack Mountains Ireland, Ballineddan Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Barraboy Mountain, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Bencroy, Breifne Ireland, Coolcurtoga, Paps/Derrynasaggart Ireland, Croaghbane, Bluestack Mountains Ireland, Crohan West, Knockmealdown Mountains Ireland, Donegal NW Ireland, Donegal NW Ireland, Donegal NW Ireland, Donegal SW Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Esknabrock, Mangerton Ireland, Knockbrack, Shehy/Knockboy Ireland, Knockfune, Shannon Ireland, Masatiompan, Brandon Group Ireland, Meenteog, Glenbeigh Horseshoe Ireland, Moneyteige North, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Muckish, Donegal NW Ireland, New Zealand , New Zealand, Otago , New Zealand, Southland , New Zealand, Southland , New Zealand, Westland , Peru, Cusco , Sliabh Tuaidh Far W Top, Donegal SW Ireland, Slieve Beagh, Fermanagh/S Tyrone Ireland, Stoompa, Mangerton Ireland, Tonduff, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Trostan, Antrim Hills Ireland, Two Rock Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland tracks and these walks were created Blessington Lakeside Walk

Thanks to all 1062 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 6166 comments about 1039 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1057). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently around 49% There's plenty (18) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Republic - ring EPA hotline 1850 365 121
    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Bunmore, Knocknascollop NW Top, Lettertrask, An Bheann Mhór, Cró Bheithe, Cnoc na Deirce Bige, Cashlaundrumlahan, Brickany, Maumakeogh, Cruach Léithín and some 1 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.
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