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February 2013




EAST, WEST, NORTH and SOUTH Route ideas and places to go, also Oz this month.

MV Annual Talks with Evelyn Cusack and much more.

Write up of MV in Westmeath Independent | Gear review: Soft shells | Continued forest access: Coillte issue getting airtime. |

MountainViews book coming.



2012 - 2013 Winter Talks Series
Full details here: www.walkersassociation.ie
  • Fri Feb 22nd, 2013, MountainViews Presentations and Awards Evening with Evelyn Cusack, weatherwoman. This is a popular annual event with presentations on various topics and awards for members achieving list completions. In 2013 it will feature Evelyn Cusack, Deputy Head of Forecasting for Met Éireann, who will talk about Irish Weather. As per discussion in general forum, we will have some questions about distinctive weather in the mountains. 2013 will also see the MountainViews book of summit lists launched, the most comprehensive and accurate book of its kind. Peter Walker will be speaking on his experiences walking in Ireland (as opposed to Britain). New features of the website will get a short explanation.

  • Weds Mar 13th 2013, John G O'Dwyer hillwalker and writer will speak on the "Ancient Pilgrim Trails of Ireland". Many of us will have seen his contributions to the Irish Times. He set out to walk these trails, in so far as I could identify them. He started one at Slemish and eventually finished at Skellig Michael. (Note date change)

  • Weds 17th April, 2013, John Cruise hillwalker will speak on the Camino Via de La Plata- the Roman route from Seville to Santiago, 1000km.
    The word Plata ( silver in Spanish ) was believed to provide the origins of the name but it is more likely to be a version of the Arabic words " Balatta" or al- Balath meaning paved or wide.

These WAI events will be held in the Landsdowne Hotel, 27 Lansdowne Road, Dublin 4. Directions here http://www.lansdownehotel.ie Note: There is a fee for entry to the MV/WAI evening, whilst other events are free with a voluntary collection. Please note: MountainViews is a non-profit and asks for a fee from everyone coming to the Annual Talks including those collecting awards.

  • Weds Jan 23rd, 2013, Hillwalkers Pub Quiz organised in conjunction with the Wayfarers Association Around 70 attended this popular annual event and a great time was had by all. Report

    The Walkers Association are interested in taking on new people for their committee to help run their successful events series.

    More on Walkers Association here: www.walkersassociation.ie

    For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.

    WAI Photo Gallery - They would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

  • Hilltop-Harrier took this picture of "The Hissing Hole" in the summer in the Isle of Doagh (Inishowen, Donegal) directly behind the Carrickabraghy Castle. MountainViews is interested in coast as well as summit pictures and information.

    In short: Discovery

    NORTH: Ancient doorway, timely shelter
    With a head full of legends and previous experience our correspondent describes the challenges of this place in snow. He even has a good word in the context for the sanitised path - regarded by many as a poor example of contractor created monstrosity.
    Trailtrekker on Slieve Gullion: Most Magical Mountain
    Fionn Mac Cumhaill hunted on this very hill and the even greater legend, Cuchullain himself got his name in that famous battle with the hound on it's western flanks. I have walked this mountain in all conditions and at all different times of day and night and it still keeps drawing me back. I even forgave it after a 10km night trek in thick fog, with badly blistered feet! So, when the snow land ... Click here

    NORTH: Taking the scalp of, erm, Scalp
    Inishowen is a lovely little corner of Ireland whose hills deserve far more attention than they generally receive. Scalp Mountain is one the more prosaic eminences hereabouts (a bit lumpy, mobile phone paraphernalia on top, etc) but the views are excellent. The easiest way up (via the transmitter's access road) is tracked by garmin...while walking up roads (and permission is no longer available to drive up it, apparently) is never the preferred option for the more devoted hillwalker, it should be born in mind that other routes to the summit are disproportionately tough going.
    Garmin on Scalp mountain Donegal by the easy route.
    An enjoyable Sunday morning walk to the top of Scalp via the walk, Length:7.3km, Climb: 375m, Area: Scalp Mountain, Inishowen (Ireland) Scalp Mountai Click here

    NORTH: Pleasantly pastoral trek in the Sperrins
    Crocknamoghil Hill is lacking somewhat in dramatic precipices to say the least, but its easy to access and offers mildly pleasing scenery, reports Peter Walker.
    group on Crocknamoghil: Cliffs and knife-edges, he fibbed
    Even amongst the extensive collection of used teabags (much obliged Mr Cra) that make up the Sperrins, Crocknamoghil is an especially squeezed-out example. A failure in terms of aesthetics, the hill redeems itself slightly in terms of ease of access with the ascent on clear tracks almost all the way.   Start near to the end of a minor road running N from the B46, parking a few hundred yards alon ... Click here

    NORTH: Manic Miner
    Up in the Mournes mcrtchly has submitted a track that enlivens no end one of the more popular (and a bit dull, if truth be told) routes to the high tops: the Brandy Pad from Bloody Bridge to the Bog of Donard. A lot of mining and excavation has been done hereabouts, and this track allows for some cautious (and that word should be considered to carry a bit of emphasis: these sorts of areas tend to contain a fair few ways of offing yourself spectacularly, so the accompanying notes should be 'studied' as opposed to merely 'read') exploration of the workings. Such perambulations will probably absorb much of a day, but it hardly needs saying that Donard itself (and Millstone Mountain) are straightforward to visit from this area.
    mcrtchly on Inclined to climb? Chimney Rock Mountain via Carr's face incline
    In many parts of the Moune Mountains there is evidence of qu walk, Length:11.2km, Climb: 730m, Area: Chimney Rock Mountain, Mourne Mountains (Ireland) Click here

    NORTH: Bang on Top
    Aganny Top in the Dartrys is bang in the centre of a wonderful plateau surrounded by steep escarpments and deep glens, reports gerrym
    gerrym on Aganny Top: Bang on Top
    Aganny Top is bang in the middle of a wonderful plateau surrounded by steep escarpments and deep glens. It is not too much of a stretch to complete a walk over this plateau and its 5 separate summits, which is what I did of course!
    Starting from St Michaels church (803503) and making use of the copius parking, a steep ascent brought the summit of Keeloges and stunning views across Gleanade ... Click here

    NORTH: The Blue(stacks) Smaller Brothers
    Fine views of the wild and rugged Bluestacks of Donegal can be had from the adjacent (and slightly cuddlier) Croveenananta - Croaghubbrid ridge; four tops can be quickly claimed with walking with some of the spirit of the main range without quite the level of cussedness (and seriousness). Worthy of special note is Lough Analf, a lovely place for a bivouac (says someone who hates camping).
    Garmin on Croveenananta - Croaghubbrid loop
    My first hill walk in a while due to business commitments so walk, Length:8.0km, Climb: 493m, Area: Cruach Mhín an Neanta, Bluestack Mountains (Irelan Click here

    SOUTH: Please sign the visitor's book at the summit…
    Member cgrlf enjoys a climb up Slievereagh Hill in the Ballyhouras and gets to record his experience in the visitors' book at the top. Is this unique?
    group on Camaderry: Valley views, pumped water and steep ascents.
    Camaderry is a useful summit for starting or ending a walk around either the Glendalough or Glendasan valley, two of the five valleys radiating from Laragh. It has a boulder strewn summit from which there are views to much of the higher ground around central Wicklow. To its west is the upper reservoir of the Turlough Hill Pumped Water Storage facility used for generating electricity. There's ... Click here

    SOUTH: Big views, small effort
    Lovely views of the Comeraghs, Galtees, Slievenamon and Glenary reward the short trip to the summit of Long Hill in the Comeraghs, so say members jackill & thomas_g.
    group on Long Hill: Big views, small effort
    Lovely views of the Comeraghs, Galtees, Slievenamon and Glenary reward the short trip to the summit from S248193 or S209207. Long hill, as suggested by the name, has a flat top marked by a cairn, as a result, the going can be boggy on the summit. When descending towards Glennagad (Holy cross above Clonmel) watch out for nice stone markers that are scattered amongst the heather at approx S21520 ... Click here

    SOUTH: When Granulation Goes Wrong...
    daveevangibbons has sent in a variant on the popular traverse of the eastern Knockmealdowns, nabbing the first three summits and then retreating to the starting point (the full traverse has been tracked by several members already). While we're in the area, can anyone think of another Sugarloaf (and there are a fair few of them in the hills of Britain and Ireland) that less resembles the actual thing than this one? Is there another hill in Ireland more fancifully named on the basis of an imagined resemblance to something else?
    daveevangibbons on Knockmealdown
    From bay car park up rocky track to Sugarloaf hill, followed walk, Length:9.5km, Climb: 731m, Area: Knockmealdown, Knockmealdown Mountains (Ireland) Click here

    EAST: Valley views and steep ascents
    An updated summary for Camaderry in Wicklow by simon3 suggests multiple approaches to the top, which is sandwiched between the beautiful Glendalough and Glendasan valleys.
    group on Camaderry: Valley views, pumped water and steep ascents.
    Camaderry is a useful summit for starting or ending a walk around either the Glendalough or Glendasan valley, two of the five valleys radiating from Laragh. It has a boulder strewn summit from which there are views to much of the higher ground around central Wicklow. To its west is the upper reservoir of the Turlough Hill Pumped Water Storage facility used for generating electricity. There's ... Click here

    EAST: Let it snow, let it snow…
    Member LizzieMurray gets up to her knees in snow on an ascent up Keadeen in the Wicklow Mountains.
    LizzieMurray on Keadeen Mountain: Look at all this white stuff :D
    Keadeen Mountain, Rathdangan today 18 Jan 2013 . Its only 653m but dont underestimate her. She is deceivingly steep with quite a few humps up and down and in this snow its hard to determine whats hard snow and whats bog until you actually take a step so you kind of have to negotiate every step. Most enjoyable mountain and lovely place to shelter at the top for a spot of lunch :D Recommend this to ... Click here

    EAST: Not Too Far From the Madding Crowd
    Taking a different exit from the Glendalough valley is Dessie1, forsaking the relative fleshpots of the Poulanass Falls in favour of a quick grind up Derrybawn and a promenade to Mullacor. The tops of Lugduff aren't far from here, but the party elected to take the boardwalk down along the topside of the forest before the descent to the start. There are stretches of this walk where you'd be very lucky to find solitude...
    Dessie1 on Derrybawn,Mullacor Horseshoe
    Starting at Glendalough Visitor centre take the green track walk, Length:14.7km, Climb: 682m, Area: Derrybawn Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Der Click here

    EAST: Wait for winter...
    Further afield in Wicklow mcrtchly has posted an overture to the main composition that is the circuit of the Glen of Imaal, over Lobawn, Corriebracks and Church Mountain. This would represent a reasonably straightforward day in itself (if you ignore the warnings about the sodden nature of certain stretches) but the vaguely unhinged might feel able to tag it onto the standard Imaal round.
    mcrtchly on Circuit of Lobawn, Corriebracks and Church Mountain
    Park in Donard village and head east on the Glen of Imaal ro walk, Length:16.7km, Climb: 762m, Area: Lobawn, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Lobawn, Corrieb Click here

    EAST: The Lugnaquillia Variations
    Another different spin on a familiar theme is provided by mrw, who eschews the Fraughan Rock Glen route up Lug from Glen Malure for a wander up the latter's upper reaches before gaining the spine of the range and crossing Camenabologue on the way to the main top. Slight diversions would enable Table Mountain, Camenabologue's SE top and Benleagh to be visited too.
    mrw on Camenabologue,Lugnaquillia
    walk, Length:21.2km, Climb: 912m, Area: Camenabologue, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Camenabologue, Lugnaquillia, Cloghernagh Click here

    WEST: A thing of beauty
    The golden sands stretching up to the foot of the impressive Slievemore on Achill add to this mountain's pure beauty, reports paulocon.
    paulocon on Slievemore: A thing of beauty
    Was lucky enough to spend a week down in Achill at the foot of Slievemore and took a few walks up this beautiful mountain. I completely fell in love with it and the surrounding landscape. For me, the only place to start the walk is at the far end of Sliver Strand in Dugort so you can enjoy that remarkable view along the strand and up to Slievemore towering over the beach. The route has been descri ... Click here

    WEST: A small jewel in the Twelve Bens
    Great facilities at the bottom, well maintained on the way up and unbelievable views at the top, Diamond Hill is almost priceless, reports shaneanddearbh.
    shaneanddearbh on Binn Ghuaire: Shine Bright Like a Diamond
    We climbed Diamond Hill on a fine January Saturday morning. Three amateur's and two enthusiastic children made it up to the summit in about 1 hour and twenty minutes. The facilities at the visitor center were very good, with toilets, picnic area, cafe and car park, all free. The paths are well sign posted and the boarded walkways over the boggy areas are convenient for newbies like ourselves. I am ... Click here

    WEST: Outward Bound with Satan
    mcrtchly has filed another report of interest to the hardened hillwalker: another tough, complex but incredibly rewarding walk in the West. Often overlooked in favour of (and indeed technically 'by', in some cases) Mweelrea, Ben Gorm and the Maum Turks, Maumtrasna and Devilsmother suggest a horseshoe walk for the connoisseur, with airy ridges and a vast plateau stitched together by some very steep slopes requiring more than a modicum of navigational nous (see the notes accompanying the track). Although it would be difficult to extend the itinerary with the intention of adding more summits, in clear weather the Maumtrasna plateau must be worth a more leisurely exploration, and the views over this almost Norse stretch of seaboard are sensational.
    mcrtchly on Devil's Mother Horseshoe
    Save this route for a good dry day. On the day that we did walk, Length:17.3km, Climb: 1085m, Area: Maumtrasna, Partry/Joyce Country (Ireland) Maum Click here

    AUSTRALIA: Strange ladies, nerves and breakfasts
    For anyone worried that their Airmiles/Avios are a burden of which they would like to be relieved then march-fixer has the answer with another entry from the land Down Under...chasms and cliffs and Antipodean flora/fauna in excelsis, even if The Giant Stairway is an incredibly Irish moniker for something.
    march-fixer on Echo Point, 3 Sisters and The Giant Stairway
    Right next to Katoomba, this high altitude, eucalyptus hazed walk, Length:11.5km, Climb: 670m, Area: Australia, New South Wales () Click here

    Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


    COILLTE Issue

    Members in the Republic will know of the serious situation with regard to the possible sale of Coillte harvesting rights and the almost certain resulting loss in whole or part of easy of access to forests and surrounding land and summits.
    The Impact trade union has teamed up with a number of groups including recreational groups such as MI and this website to oppose the proposals. The most recent news is that they brought out a report from economist Peter Bacon who disputes strongly the economic case for the sale.
    Click on this link.
    Additionally Prime Time featured a discussion regarding Coillte and the sale of its harvesting rights. For the hillwalking fraternity I believe it's worth watching. The RTE player link is here and it begins at 13min 54sec.

    Ear to the Ground, screened last week is also of interest. The link is here and it begins at 15min 30sec.
    (Thanks to Pat Dignam for references to the last two clips.)

    Upcoming Evelyn Cusack talk: want photos of distinctive weather.
    We asked for this dirung the month and got a response from a number of members. Time for questions at the talk will not be unlimited so we need to chose some interesting and distinctive sorts of weather. The main themes we have pictures for so far are
    * Long distance views
    * Temperature inversion
    If you have photos illustrating these themes, send them in. We might consider one more theme also.

    Evelyn will be speaking on Irish Weather and answering questions on Fri 22nd Feb, 8pm, at the Lansdowne Hotel, Pembroke Road, Dublin 4 as more fully advertised earlier.
    simon3 on Photos of unusual weather wanted.
    On Fri 22nd Feb, Evelyn Cusack, well known to MV users in the Republic as a leading weatherwoman is coming to talk at our meeting (with WAI) in the Lansdowne Hotel at 8pm. All are welcome. What we would like is to give her some examples of weather for her to comment on and perhaps review records for. And we want to make it visual. Now every day has weather however dull however what we are ... Click here


    MountainViews 2.0 Main Area Display is now how summits tracks and areas are displayed

    The new map presentation system, unique in the world, presents tracks and summits together with additional information at a click. This has taken months to put together and is a response to the member questionnaire where members repeatedly asked for a better user interface. So for the new interface, see the announcement and quick tutorial here
    On a personal note, I would like to thank the very many people who emailed me to give thanks for the new interface. The changes were part of the response to the comments made in the Members Questionnaire 10 months ago. simon3 on Trial of part of MountainViews 2.0
    You need to be logged in for this. Click on Summits | Areas, Features, Routes. If you do this in a separate tab you can keep these comments available. Now, you should see the new interface. It has two maps: Overview and Detail Each map can be expanded using the gripper bar in the bottom right. Overview is to help you find areas in general. As you move the cursor over the blue shapes o ... Click here

    If you insist on using the old interface it's still available under "Home" but may not be for much longer.

    See here simon3 on Improvements to new, combined feature page.
    Regular users will know we are preparing to replace the summit page with a new combined page that also shows GPS tracks. You can see it at Summits | Areas, Summits, Routes. It features an overview map and a detail map. Clicking on features on either brings up detail or options. The overview map was slow to refresh (>5 secs) and this has been improved to around 120ms which is way, way better. ... Click here

    You may need to change old bookmarks or shortcuts.
    Still clicking on that old link to MV you put in years ago? Could be a bad idea because some old links will prevent you seeing the new interface in all its glory or may not even work. Replace with a new one.
    See here simon3 on Revised interface - need to change shortcuts.
    If you are using an old shortcut or bookmark from your PC or whatever to access MountainViews, you may be missing out on the new interface. The simplest shortcut or bookmark should refer to Which will work fine and brings you to the new summit and track display. Some time ago Mountainviews urls were changed to a simplified form. For example: Mountai ... Click here

    Software developers

    MountainViews has one or two helpers who have kindly volunteered technical help on the website. But we could use more! Get in touch via admin@mountainviews.ie
    Last month's little programmer puzzle. Why do geeks get Halloween and Christmas confused? 25DEC = 31OCT


    Gear reviews.

    Last month Tom discussed the purpose and types of mid-layers. This time he discusses soft shells.

    Soft shells

    Soft shells are the relative newcomer to the hillwalker's kit, but have already been around for 10 years. Prior to this there were also 1 or 2 items that could be described as soft shells, e.g. the Buffalo clothing and Paramo clothing.

    Soft shells come in various shapes, sizes and fabrics. The common attribute should be wind resistance and water resistance, but not waterproof. To confuse things there are some companies making waterproof soft shells. Surely, this is a waterproof hard shell?

    The soft shell would appear to be ideally suited to the Irish climate — blocks the wind, highly breathable and keeps out the passing shower. In practice, I still find traditional layering system with breathable hard shell more versatile for Irish conditions. However, the soft shell is great for days that are more windy than wet, or when you're moving quickly and pumping out more sweat that a hard shell can handle.

    Mammut Ultimate Pro Jacket
    Price €196
    This feels like heavier, older-style soft shell made from Windstopper fabric. However, it comes in at only 440g. It does feel solid and is very windproof. The cut is very tight, but the high collar is a little too firm around the neck. The thumb-loops might not be to everyone's taste. It might be a little heavy and rigid, but after 6 years it is still almost as good as new.

    Rab Baltoro Lite
    Approx. Price: €130*
    The fabric feels lighter and is more flexible than the Mammut jacket, but it is a little bit heavier. The Polartec Powershield fabric is not as windproof as Windstopper, but the light brushed fleece lining provides a little more insulation. The fit is quite relaxed and there is plenty of room around the arms. This means that it tends to flap in the wind. The pockets are massive and can be accessed when still wearing a hip-belt. This is a very comfortable option.

    Rab Vapour-Rise Stretch Top
    Approx. Price: €100*
    According to some this is not strictly a soft shell, and it was mentioned in last month's review of mid-layers. This is much lighter than the first 2 jackets and offers less wind resistance. It makes up for this in its versatility — worn as an outer layer on breezy warm days, worn as a mid-layer on cold damp days. Considering these conditions are often encountered in a single day in the Irish hills, then this is a great piece of kit. The deep half-zip and single large chest pocket are great, and leave the rest of the top to be clutter free. For hillwalking, and layering, I would prefer if it didn't have thumb loops.

    *Approximate price based on UK£

    -- Tom Sweeney (MV Member)

    A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

    MountainViews first book is due to be launched towards the end of February. It should be possible to buy copies at our Annual Talks on Feb 22nd.
    The book is called A Guide to Ireland's Mountain Summits - The Vandeleur-Lynams & The Arderins
    It will contain four lists, background articles and eighty photographs.
    While we have brought together the work of conventional sources, some of the content has been provided by "crowd-sourcing", that is using information such as summit positions derived from the efforts of thousands of contributions. Conventional sources include predessor list creators, scholars such as Paul Tempan (names), articles and photographs.
    It is possible to express interest or pre-order copies of the book from the publisher here: www.collinspress.ie/a-guide-to-irelands-mountain-summits.html or Amazon here www.amazon.com/Guide-Irelands-Mountain-Summits-Vandeleur-Lynams/dp/1848891644

    A member writes up summiteering MV-style in the Westmeath Independent
    Recently member "paddyhillsbagger" described his experience of climbing the hills of Ireland, first from Paddy Dillons book (whence paddyhillsbagger) and then after discovering MV. It's a model for anyone who would like to write up their experiences.

    Athlone Local claims four Everests within 100km of Athlone!
    Dave McKay scales 100 hills totalling 41,000 metres in height

    THE Midlands are generally known for their large expanse of flat lands like the Bog of Allen and not for their mountain ranges, but one intrepid hill-walker has gone out of his way to find any bumps, lumps and hills wihin 100km of Athlone and climb one hundred of them!

    Dave McKay of Retreat Park, Athlone started his quest back in 2009 by climbing Croghan Hill at 234m. Croghan is clearly visible from the M6 rising out of the flat Boglands to the south of Rochfordbridge, and finished his goal on Knockastanna at 444m in the Shannon range of hills in 2012. Knockastanna is overlooked by Keeper Hill which at 694m was the highest hill Dave climbed in his local 100 and which he previously scalled back in 2007 whilst starting out to climb all the 2,000ft and over tops in Ireland.

    When the heights of all the 100 hill tops were totalled at the end, it came to a staggering 41,428m which is over 4½ times that of Everest, the highest mountain in the world at 8,850m. All these hills are within 100km of Athlone and despite encountering wind, rain, hailstones and plenty of waterlogged boggy round, Dave didn't require oxygen masks, crampons, ice axes and an expensive airfare, although the diesel for the car came to a pretty penny.

    Dave's love of high places was originally formed in his Scottish homeland where Munro bagging was and still is a popular sport. A Munro is a classification of a mountain over 3,000ft, of which Scotland has 282 and thousands of mountaineers set out every weekend to climb them. At the tender age of 15 Dave and the rest of his family climbed Ben Nevis, the highest mountain in Britain and Ireland at 4,409ft, kitted out in cagoules, jeans and wellies, definitely not the recommended gear for any mountain attempt. From that point on, you could say Dave was hooked on height! After spending 20 year in London where his passion for heights was somewhat diminished, Dave moved to Athlone in 2003 with his wife Deirdre, a native Athlonian.

    It wasn't until 2006 that Dave picked up a book, The Mountains of Ireland by Paddy Dillon which lists the 212 tops over 2,000ft (including the 12 tops over 3,000ft) this his love of hills was re-kindled. He set out to be a "Paddy bagger" and started climbing all 212 hills contained in the book. Very quickly, after climbing about half of the 2,000ft tops the distances Dave had to travel to get to the hills increased which required overnights away fro home. So when he stumbled upon a website listing other classifications of Irish hills, it opened up another avenue.

    Mountainviews.ie is a free to use resource for all hill walkers which lists 1057 Irish hills of 150m and over. It splits these hills into various areas and categories and allows users to not only log their climbs, but to comment on routes to and from the tops as well as post photos. Within this site Dave posted his Grid Reference point, which is a 6 figure number which pin-points your position on the map, and got back his own individual unique list of his 100 local tops which he promptly started to "bag".

    Suddenly there was a whole new play area close to home of high places that could be enjoyed even after work in the evening. Dave remembers such a walk which took in a lovely forest stroll in Mullaghmeen leading to the highest point in Westmeath at 258m, which has the distinction of being the lowest county top in Ireland. This was shortly followed by watching a beautiful sunset from the slopes of Slieve na Calliagh at 276m which along with the ancient Lough Crew Passage Tombs on its summit, is also the highest point in Co Meath

    During the course of his 100 hills walks, Dave went on to scale no less than 8 county tops straddling some 10 counties, the highest being Cuilcagh on the Co Cavan/ Co Fermanagh boundary at 665m in the Breifne range of hills to the North. He climbed all of the Shannon hills to the South which contrasted with the limestone riddled Burren hills to the West and the boggy peat hagged Wicklow Mountains to the East. The ever changing weather, views and wildlife meant that no two hills were alike in a never ending kaleidoscope of scenery.

    Now having completing his 100 local hills Dave is once again travelling further afield to get some new tops to climb. Dave is such an avid climber that he is currently ranked 21st in the Summiteers Hall of Fame on the website with 318 summits to his credit.

    He also goes to the Mountainviews.ie Annual Talks in Dublin which is held in February. It's usually a friendly and informal affair where fans of Irish hills get together to celebrate the diversity and scope of the Irish landscape. Last year the popular broadcaster Eanna ni Lamhna (who herself use the website to climb the 27 county tops in Ireland) conduced an entertaining talk on Irish Mountain Wildlife. This year's guest speaker is the weather forecaster Evelyn Cusack.

    Anyone wanting to come to the Annual Talks or would like to accompany Dave in his new goal of 50 new tops at 50 to celebrate his half century year are welcome to get in contact with him via email davemckay@eircom.net or text on 087 203 4150.

    This month.
    Kudos to our contributors.

    We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. 0pt0, adashi, agatak, aidenaid16, Aliandboys, angel_amd, AntDublin, Anya, AoifeShinners1, Arderin, Bielec, bluemoon2, Boniface49, cmcquest, colourharry, convivialgent, coosa, davesouthall, Diarmaid-Griffin, Dilsewat, Dmcc, dominique, douglas38, dreilly, dsheridan2013, ebcoates, ei7kh, eiremoss34, elysium1, endapatrickcullen, EoghanCon11, eoincollins, evelyncusack, Forester, gahanj, hot_spuds, Hudson, husiu, jamesryan2, jan, joeybrogan, JonathanHession, josephrory, kav1911, keaneb17, keithkenny, keithr, killineywalker, liamobrien, maghera, maidhcil, Markoleary, marybyrne, Marymoore, maxooo, Mik, Moek, Mona, Monicamcgettrick, monkse, mpadspe, Munro39, murney, murty723, neliusmurphy, nogorman, numbers, orlaleydon, Patricia-T, patrick60, patrick74, paulclover, philip5660, pp220, Ray-Lexi, relbmar, rhw, rirocks, roseberryrose, seanschumacher, shaneanddearbh, swmont, tbenney, TMuehlbauer, toshea, tuppence, Upanover, vince_curran, Wojciech (89)

    Our contributors to all threads this month: CaptainVertigo (3), Conor74 (2), Dessie1 (3), Garmin (3), Geo (1), Hilltop-Harrier (4), LizzieMurray (2), Peter Walker (2), Wiked (1), aidand (1), brenno (1), cgrif (2), daveevangibbons (3), diannecfc (1), droginexile (1), gerrym (3), Communal summary entries (12), hivisibility (1), jackill (2), kernowclimber (1), lennyantonelli (1), march-fixer (1), mattloughrey (1), mcrtchly (5), mrw (5), omurchu (1), osullivanm (1), paddyhillsbagger (3), paulocon (3), scannerman (3), shaneanddearbh (1), simon3 (11), wicklore (3)
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    There were comments on the following summits , Aganny Top, Agow Top, Binn Ghuaire, Binn Shleibhe, Bothán, Carron Mountain, Devilsmother North Top, Keadeen Mountain, Knockmealdown, Lugnaquillia, Seefin E Top, Seltannasaggart, Shehy Mountain, Slievemore, Slievereagh
    and these tracks Australia, New South Wales , Brockagh Mountain SE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Camaderry, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Camenabologue, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Chimney Rock Mountain, Mourne Mountains Ireland, Cruach Mhín an Neanta, Bluestack Mountains Ireland, Derrybawn Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Galtymore, Galty Mountains Ireland, Knockmealdown, Knockmealdown Mountains Ireland, Knocknacloghoge, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Lobawn, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Maumtrasna, Partry/Joyce Country Ireland, Scalp Mountain, Inishowen Ireland, Slovakia , Tonelagee NE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland tracks and these walks were created (none in period)

    Thanks to all 1044 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

    For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

    Summary. MountainViews now has 6037 comments about 1027 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1057). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently around 49% There's plenty (30) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.


    • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
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    • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Bunmore, Knocknascollop NW Top, Lettertrask, An Bheann Mhór, Cró Bheithe, Cnoc na Deirce Bige, Cashlaundrumlahan, Brickany, Maumakeogh, Cruach Léithín and some 1 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
    • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.
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