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September 2011




Comments by Region: Gold in the East

West: Corraun, farmers and their kindness.

South: A new walk description in the middle of Dingle


Irish Challenge Walk Information 2011 from The Walkers Association.
  • BURREN PEAKS WALKING FESTIVAL 23rd 25th September 2011 WALKS FROM 4 - 8 hrs DURATION More Info Here
  • CARLOW AUTUMN FESTIVAL 8th 10th October 2011 Distances from 7km to 20km. More Info Here
WAI events in 2011/2012 - Winter Talks Series
The Walkers Association are planning a further talk series in the Dublin area for winter 2011/2012.

Full details here:
  • Weds 26th Oct. Talk by East-West Mapping in connection with their maps for hillwalkers.
    Barry Dalby will outline a lifelong interest in maps and survey and describe some of the processes involved in the recent production of mapping for the Wicklow hills. Venue St Olafs GAA, Stillorgan
  • Wednesday 23rd November: 8pm Talk on Walking in Slovenia by Denis O'Connor: Venue St Olafs, Stillorgan
  • Jan 2012, Hillwalkers Quiz in association with the Wayfarers Association.
  • Feb 2012, Presentation from MountainViews (to be confirmed).

Full details here:

The WAI tell us that if you are interested in hosting such an event outside of Dublin, do get in touch at

WAI Photo Gallery - They would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

  • Sat 10th September 2011
  • Sun 25th September 2011
  • Sat 08th October 2011
  • Sun 23rd October 2011
  • Sat 12th November 2011
  • Sun 27th November 2011
More information at

Dingle linear walk, ending at the South Pole
three5four0 has given us an interesting route crossing the spine of Dingle at place east of the Connor Pass, a wild area that I (Simon that is) visited last month.
three5four0 on Central Dingle Traverse
Overview A Traverse of 2 MV Summits, from Glanteenassig to the South Pole Inn, Annascaul. 2 cars needed or an understanding wife / partner! Approaches Approach from the Stradbally to Tralee road (R560). Turn off the R560 at 64670 11221and follow this minor road to the car park in Glanteenassig forest, 620 084 Start From the car park walk back up onto the minor road and turn right ... Click here

Our member caught this shot of a car burning near Bohernabreena, Co Dublin. What would you do if you come up on this?Read the full report.


NORTH: Fantastic Four take Mayo by storm
Bengorm NW top earns its first comments from four intrepid Mountainviews members and fully deserves its high praise.
Geo on Bengorm NW Top: Fantastic Four take Mayo by storm
A comment for an uncommented mountain. Liz50, Muschi, Sandman and myself took ourselves across the country to do the Glendahurk Horseshoe. It rained as we crossed the midlands and got West of the Shannon, but cleared as we donned the boots in the little car park at L9106197962. I was very impressed with the signage for the local looped walks and the large OS based map in the car park. We head up ... Click here

NORTH: In a league of its own
The track up to Slieve League may be damaged by the thousands of visitors each year, but it's easy to see why so many make the trek.
yambox on Slieve League: To Slieve or not to Slieve ...
Climbed Slieve League from Bunglas upper car park to top along the ridge on June 18th 2011. Much has been said about Slieve League. It is a very popular spot for tourists, but they usually stop up the little hill past the upper Bunglas car park. You can always try to park your car at the upper car park, but there's only limited space. Therefore it is recommended to park the car at the lower Bung ... Click here

EAST: Gold in them thar (Wicklow) hills… A FIVE Star contribution.
The appropriately named Moneyteige North once held the promise of untold riches and inspired Ireland's nineteenth century goldrush, as kernowclimber explains. A number of us have walked over this ridge, sometimes a few times, but never knew the story of the workings. Well done kernowclimber on this one.
kernowclimber on Moneyteige North: ‘Gold in them thar hills’?
Though not on the scale of California, in 1795 Wicklow witnessed a gold rush on the Goldmine River that flows northwards from Croghan and the Moneyteige mountains. Tradition says a local school teacher named Donaghoo began living beyond his means, arousing suspicion. He had noticed a stream glistening in the rays of the setting sun and realising this was gold, began secretly panning the sands for ... Click here

WEST: Discovering summits in West Clare
Our member put up the first descriptin of Slievecallan, a peak with the very high isolation of 26.9km (that is 26.9km from the nearest MV listed summit.) I note that he also went up another in the area - Slieve Elva in the Burren.
paddyhillsbagger on Slievecallan: Fine views, inbetween the mist!
Left car at forestry entrance on highest point on the R474 Ennis Milltown Malby Rd. R136756. Walked up tracks serving a house, small quarry, forestry, turf cutting and mast. After passing through a gate, I took a straight line up a cutting to left of forest. This is a steep short climb on rough terrain which leads to a very boggy and uneven summit plateau. Trig is to right or NE from this cutting ... Click here

WEST: Of tractors and wasps
On a trek up to the stunning Corraun Hill East Top, wicklore gets an unexpected lift, then almost gets stung, then enjoys some of Ireland's finest views!
wicklore on Corraun Hill East Top: Of tractors and wasps
I set off up the track at L737 943 on what was a very hot July day. This is a great track to gain height and warm up. I didn’t get the chance to warm up too much however as a kindly turf cutter trundled up on a curiously small tractor and told me to hop in the back. By this he didn’t mean jump in behind him – there wasn’t room. Instead I climbed into the miniature loader attached to the back of th ... Click here

SOUTH: Well holy God! What a view…
On a warm summer's day Sceilig Mhicil is a little piece of heaven, but it must have been hell for the monks in the depths of winter.
yambox on Sceilg Mhichíl: Monks are not stupid - great piece of nature in the middle of th
We climbed this world heritage hill on June 13th 2011 -very sunny and hot day. Needless to say this site is world class and offers stunning views from all sides. It is highly recommended to book your boat trip the day before, certainly when beautiful weather is announced. Only 15 boats a day are allowed to disembark some 150 people max in order to preserve the monk's site and the fragile ecosyst ... Click here

SOUTH: Hungry for a distant new member.
This recently joined member, from Belgium, has a great description of Hungry Hill, which he says is repaying the information other members had put up!
yambox on Hungry Hill: SW ridge on a sunshiny day
Climbed Hungry hill on June 10th 2011 - Me and my wife were all alone on this beautiful panoramic mountain, even on this sunny and warm day. As a Belgian mountaineer, I found a lot of information on this website so I concern it as my duty to share my experiences during our 15 day Ireland round-trip on which we climbed several summits all over south and west Ireland. Lewvalton's description is t ... Click here

SOUTH: Shaken, not stirred, in Kerry
James Bond, world heavyweight champions, ex-Presidents, ex-Irish Wimbledon winners and the world's oldest cow… Knocknagullion in Kerry's Dunkerron Mountains has a lot to offer, as Conor74 explains…
Conor74 on Knocknagullion: Top one nice one get sorted…
From Killarney, take signposts to Kenmare (the Ring of Kerry route) and at Moll’s Gap take the signposts for Sneem. Keep on the main road, passing Boughil, Cnoc na gCapall, Bascadh and Knocklomena on your right, through one set of crossroads about 6 or 7 miles from Moll’s Gap (you will see the sign for the Blackwater Tavern, of which more below), passsed another turn off to the right that leads t ... Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


New walking routes site, oriented towards mobile users.
A very promising new site has started. It's a new route/trail planner website called Its creator tells me that "The main idea being that it is a community website which allows people to create and share their own trails." We wish the site luck, indeed hope to cooperate with the site and its creator in future.

Members Walk: Scavvy.
MountainViews members organise occasional area visits - walking and craic. This report was one of a number. These scavvies seem to suit many of the independent walkers that make up some of the membership. Another one planned for October in the SW.
roberto on Scavvy 7 A Big Thank you
Like Muzzag, I too would like to thank all the Scavvy 7 Crew for their company on what turned out to be a great day's walking in the Mournes with an excellent evening of craic in Newcastle. PS May I also express my sincere gratitude to Bleck Cra for all his kind and expert assistance to me in the lead up to the Mourne Seven Sevens. THANK YOU. Click here

CNOC LIT: Member writes up Map Addict, by Mike Parker
All true MountainViewers, who use maps and enjoy a good read. Get this book. Member paddyhillsbagger put this review into the Bibliography which I heartily endorse.
"As someone who can spend as much time poring over maps at home as actually walking them, this book is a joy. It's full of history, stories, anecdotes and personal insight. A cracking read from start to finish, you won't need your compass to guide you through. Simply the most entertaining book about maps I've had the pleasure to read."

Georgia to Maine to Donegal to Antrim…Ireland joins the Appalachian Trail!
Ireland will be officially included in the International Appalachian Trail (IAT) - an extension of the world renowned and globally popular walking route. We are not opposed to the marketing of Ireland's walking potential nevertheless we would welcome discussion on the usefulness of this initiative to Irish walkers. What on the ground would change for example?
wicklore on There IS an Irish Appalachian Trail!
(from Failte Ireland): Ireland will be included in the International Appalachian Trail (IAT) – an extension of the world renowned and globally popular walking route, the Appalachian Trail, which stretches from Georgia to Maine and welcomes an estimate 2.5million hikers each year. The proposed link will see the Irish section of the international trail start at the spectacular coastal cliffs of Sli ... Click here

Maybe this snippet will inspire or help someone Euro cash secured for repairs to paths:
A footpath serving the Three Peaks has won cash for vital repairs from an international fund – thanks to a successful bid by the Yorkshire Dales Millennium Trust (YDMT). More info here.


GPS track sharing feature.

MountainViews is working on a new way of sharing information from contributors. Members will be able to upload tracks of where they have been. There's an astonishing amount of value that can be gleaned from such tracks in terms of keeping a record of where you've been (shareable), noting what summits you reached, seeing where others have been, creating maps of routes etc.
What's the difference on a GPS between a track and a route anyway?
A GPS will record where it has been every few seconds - this information is a track drawn as a continuous if wavy line on a map.
A route on the other hand is a smaller number (perhaps 10 to 40) of specific points that it is intended you will walk through. On a map its a series of short straight lines joining these points. The points are called "waypoints".
Invitation to take a look, comment ...
Although we are many many months from even an initial useable public system, if you are technically minded you are invited to look at the very early versions of this new feature and participate in its development. Contact us at or use the members messaging service to send to simon3.

OpenLayers, jQuery, PHP, GIS?

As we have said before, to 98% of our readers these mean nothing. But to the development of this site they are the nuts and bolts. If you have a skills in web development or site management, why not get in touch. A range of tech skills are of interest. Combine the sport of hillwalking with some tech. It's fun to be involved with a homegrown social network. Email here: or use the members messaging service to send to simon3.

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

Summit lists
We are making a push towards some additions to our lists. If you are interested in volunteering to take a look at a section of the island, let us know.

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. aislingnolan, amurraybrowne, andrewconeill, annade, annem, anthony42, asbreathnach, baldauskaite, balticum, bartekj12, bdajohn, bernice, bernieelliot, boycey, brendannewfoundl, briany, cahal71, Caroline88, catdogox, Catmeena, Catrionamg, cazzi, clairehe1511, cmpreteau, colinmcbride, colmo23, coluasa, comsean, dakowa, damienomeara, daz, dcsorebones, dervillepitcher, devinrc, dmc, donaldmggordon, Doononey, Dorian_Gray, dos29, dozy1305, drsathompson, eileen52, Emulkern, ezequielm, e_rodger, fearbroga, GaryCurran, gcreissen, geraghtyg, gewitwraserie, gflannery, gilmore, glenmal, gloftus2, gmcm155, gosia, gsterrett, HannahParris, helmet33, huwie, idgit, jack606, janethamilton, jgf47, jgoc, jimmyboy, jimprior, jnagle, johnh, JohnnyLogue, jointer, jonboy2009, juliegenockey, keithmoore0, kenmur, kenmurp, KerryMeakin, KevinR, kgisland, kierancarrick, killasser, Killian100Climb, kyleglass, lauradoherty, Ledzepster, leebraid, liam16091975, LiamQuinn67, lkurpanik, lonleyjake, loobylou, Lug555, lyt, maddien12, magberg, malachi, Marian-Clince, Marykateri, mashtown, mattenbo, mbreen, meatpeople, meestry, melissamgannon, Michael1951, michaelgalvin, michaelmurray, mlawlor1981, moggy40t, mooccusymnamp, mouldymould, mpmc10984, Neeban, neecy25, nellyB, newwayoflifenm, niiaam, Noelryan, noelvontrap, norahh, oconnorfermoy, omk, osullitg, Park, Peanco, peg, pfinnerty, pfitzp, pixilemp, plezica, polgara, purebokety, Rachel2011, renwel, rianamanach, Richard91, robbied, Rockhome, Rockie, ruthn, sandrakelly10, scrop, seamusdiskin, Seashell, shanemurphy, shanloo, Shay1990, sheahan, sheehyj, shermo, shiner, skevanish, slemaine, sonofstan, sqrwiel, starscre, Surginor, susieq, tallulahbang, tamarin, taskmasta, temnos, TerryLennox, The_wolf_pack, tkron147, tmcg, tomas_walsh, Tomtom, Tonymullin, tpkelleher, Turlo143, tyranny, una008, Walshy, WharfRat, Wildcat, WoodWalker (177)

Our contributors to all threads this month: AdrianneB (2), Asho-and-Dave (1), Bleck Cra (9), CaptainVertigo (1), Colin Murphy (1), Conor74 (14), Dessie1 (3), Geo (1), Harry Goodman (4), McCloy (2), Patsy (2), Timn (1), Welder (2), Wildcat (1), ahendroff (2), bernice (1), bryanmccabe (1), dhmiriam (4), Communal summary entries (13), hbowman1 (1), jackill (9), kernowclimber (3), khkk (2), lyt (1), maclimber (1), madfrankie (1), mcrtchly (2), milokane (1), moggy40 (2), moggy40t (1), murphysw (1), muzag (1), paddyhillsbagger (2), patd (1), paulca (1), paulocon (3), redape99 (3), rmacantsaoir (1), roberto (1), sandman (2), scannerman (1), shaunkelly (1), simon3 (14), slemish (1), three5four0 (15), wicklore (5), yambox (4)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors

There were comments on the following summits An Cró Mór, Arderin, Barranisky, Beenkeragh, Benbulbin, Bengorm NW Top, Binn Bhán, Binnion, Boughil, Brandon, Brandon North Top, Brickany, Broaghnabinnia, Caherbarnagh, Caherbarnagh NW Top, Carrauntoohil, Cnoc na Bánóige N Top, Coolcross Hill, Corraun Hill East Top, Croagh Patrick East Top, Croaghanmoira, Croaghskearda, Crockalough, Cuilcagh, Cummeen, Curracahill, Faha Ridge, Hag's Tooth, Hungry Hill, Knockatee, Knockboy, Knocknacloghoge, Knocknagullion, Knocknanacree, Largan Hill, Meenamaddo, Moneyteige North, Mount Oriel, Mullaghmesha, Piaras Mór, Sceilg Mhichíl, Sliabh an Iolair, Slieve Bearnagh, Slieve Carr, Slieve Elva, Slieve League, Slievecoiltia, Sugarloaf Mountain, The Priests Leap, Tirkslieve, Trostan, Truskmore and these walks were created Central Dingle Traverse

Thanks to all 934 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 5357 comments about 968 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1056). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently only around 46% There's plenty (88) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
  • If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
    Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Maumfin, Inis na Bró, Knockaghaleague, Bunmore, Knocknascollop NW Top, Cruach Leac Chonaill, Lettertrask, Coolsnaghtig, Cashloura, An Bheann Mhór and some 15 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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