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December 2010




Delights and disasters of winter walking.

More on summit names.

WAI: Table Quiz in Jan

MountainViews/ WAI: Talks and Awards 2011 Advance Notice.


Walking around Brockagh
Member Geo creates a walk starting and finishing in Laragh.
Geo on Brockagh Ridge Walk
Overview A very enjoyable ridge walk, with the bonus of having Tonelegee at the half-way point as the high point of the walk, Great views, if the weather permits. If not, make sure you can use your compass and map (OS 56 and or Harveys Wicklow) because there are some relatively featureless brown areas, where everything looks the same 360 degrees around you! Also if you aren't fond of Coillte ... Click here

Walkers Association of Ireland
and other groups.
The Walkers Association Winter Talks Series

January 2011: Table Quiz in aid of Mountain Rescue

Wednesday January 26th 2011, Starting time 8:00pm.
McGrattans, Fitzwilliam Lane off Baggott Street (See )

Many questions of particular relevance to hill walkers - Tables of 4 - entry fee of €10 per person. - Raffle and prizes on the night.

Organised by the Wayfarers Association for the Walkers Association of Ireland

Further WAI events in 2011.
Friday, February 25th 2011, Registration 6:30pm: Gavin Bate (Everest expedition front man and mountain leader) will be anchoring this, the Feb Winter Talk. The programme will an interesting set of presentations on walking home and abroad. Gavin will be describing accessible trekking locations around the world. He will be drawing on experience from "Adventure Alternative" an adventure company he runs. Two or three other speakers including Simon Stewart, publisher of MV, will have illustrated presentations on Irish walking, full details in the next newsletters. Also featured - 2011 Awards Presentations from

Many of you told us that you couldn't get to the Feb 2010 event because it was midweek, so now we are holding it on a Friday. It's the perfect opportunity to catch up on mountain news local and worldwide and to network with hillwalking friends, clubs and other aficionados. Stick it in the Diary now!

March 2011: Talk on Walking in the South-West of US, and AGM. Put this in your diary.

WAI Photo Gallery - why not upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

Reeks Panorama from Ben Quinn

Our first snow picture of this early winter.
Using photos taken by recently active member Ben Quinn in Nov, this vantage point on Carrauntoohil shows off the west end of the MacGillycuddy's Reeks ridge. From right to left: Cnoc na Toinne, Cnoc an Chuillin, Cnoc an Chuillin East, Maolán Buí, Knocknapeasta and the Big Gun. Read more here.

Recent Contributions and News
Winter hillwalking? Profit from other people's experiences.
MountainViews has included a number of reports from Mountain Rescue recently. We aren't so experienced in this country at dealing with the hazards of winter walking. Just on the subject of transport:
simon3 on Vehicles stuck near Lough Bray
Ongoing incident: Tonight, 2nd Dec 2010, Wicklow's Mountain Rescue teams are trying to reach five young men who attempted today to reach the Sally Gap from the north. It seems that one of the two vehicles became trapped a little before dark at around 4pm, whereupon, the occupants called their friends to come to their assistance. Their friends' vehicle also became stuck and they called out the Mo ... Click here

Comment: those 4X4's were stuck at probably around 300m. You need to be thinking of what roads you can use, if any, and need to take note of elevation and whether there are enough other vehicles around to keep roads open.
Mountain Rescue put together some points here:
simon3 on Mountain Rescue Suggestions.
Prepare for a Wicklow Mountains Winter Last year 2009 was the busiest year for Mountain Rescue Teams in Co. Wicklow. This was partially due to the severity of the previous two winters. January, February and December '09 at either ends of the year were full of incidents where many people travelling into the hills were unprepared and needed assistance. As a forewarning, the ... Click here

It's not all snowbound gloom. One pair of intrepid MountainViewers made it down to Glendalough.
mcrtchly on Glendalough today
We went up to Glendalough this afternoon from Wicklow Town via Roundwood with the aim of doing some snow shoeing. The road as far as the hotel in Glendalough was reasonably OK and in fact was being snow ploughed again on our return. The road after the hotel as far as the car park entrance at the upper lake had about 20-30cm of snow and was only passable in my car by using snow chains. The snow ... Click here

Don't forget. Mountain Rescue will rescue people, not cars.

While we are on the subject of Mountain Rescue, please note that they are looking for volunteers. Dwmrt on Mountain Rescuers Wanted
Dublin Wicklow Mountain Rescue Team is looking for a few new people to join the team so if you think you might be up for it, then please get in touch. More info on the link below or post here and we'll try to answer. Click here
Raiders of the lost trig pillar…
Wicklore does his Indiana Jones impression as he goes in search of possibly Ireland's shortest trig pillar on Slieve Anierin in Breifne
wicklore on Slieve Anierin: Seeking the elusive Trig Pillar
Commentators have mentioned the difficulty in finding the concrete plinth that houses an Ordnance survey disc marking the summit of Slieve Anierin. The summit area is relatively flat, with a large area of feet-sucking wet black bog. This danger zone is interspersed with patches of heathery peat, rising from the muck and inviting the explorer to jump from peat hag to peat hag like something out o ... Click here
Mountain Writing Award for this Month
Has to go to kernowclimber - here's one of a number of delightful pieces.
kernowclimber on Delectable Donegal
Donegal, a magical corner of Ireland: remote, not on the way to anywhere, a land of wide open spaces and big skies. Friel's Donegal, a place of jagged coastline and treacherous cliffs, shimmering loughs, heathery moors and bogs hemmed in by mountains. Its primitive charm and its wildness have also spawned some of Ireland’s finest musicians. Their languid, ethereal tunes, many sung in the haunting ... Click here
New weather service from Met Éireann
If you are planning walking perhaps for the next weekend, this is potentially an extremely useful tool. Our advice is to put it in your bookmarks.
Click here for a look.
What's in a name?
Member barryd sheds some light on the name changes around Glendoo in the Dublin Mountains that have occurred over time. This follows on from the discussion last month of the new East-West Maps and the summit names they have selected. You can see some discussion about this around 4th Nov (2010) in Motley Views
barryd on Glendoo Mountain: Names around Glendoo
It might be worth clarifying that the Irish name listed here Log na hEala is unlikely to refer to the summit area but rather to the valley to the NE, that above 'Glendoo House'. The name Lognahala appears written slantwise along this valley feature on Nevill's map of Wicklow, 1760. Also on this map, Glenduff (dark glen) is written along the valley of Glendoo. The word Bog Mtns appears up near the ... Click here
Errigal on youtube
murraynolan supplies a truly spectacular panorama from Errigal on a perfect day…
murraynolan on Errigal: Perfect day
I took a walk up Errigal with my brother on the 14th of November. Conditions were perfect. Blue skies, no wind and far reaching views. My only tip would be that if you are leaving from the carpark on the R251, the path on the right hand side of the stream towards the col between Errigal and Mackoght is a good deal less mucky than the more direct left hand approach towards the bottom of the scr ... Click here
Ireland's answer to Uluru?
Wicklore gives us the low down on Slemish in the Antrim Hills…from it's volcanic origins through it's associations with St. Patrick and the 1798 rebellion right up to the present day.
wicklore on Slemish: Ireland's Uluru?
Slemish rises from the surrounding lowlands like an Irish Uluru and it strikes an impressive pose from any approach. Unfortunately its popularity means that it will never score highly in the wilderness or environment stakes, while private ownership in the area means that there is only one acceptable approach. However Slemish should be viewed as one of Ireland’s iconic hills and should be on the li ... Click here
May the gale force be with you…
Member mcrtchly overcomes brambles, dense forestry, disappearing tracks, swathes of felled timber, high winds - and Darth Vader - and all on the way up Seahan in the Dublin Mountains.
mcrtchly on Seahan: May the (gale) force be with ye!
Twenty five years ago I climbed Seahan on a cold winter’s day when the ground was covered in snow and the wind gave an almost arctic feel. The route taken that day was as described in the “Irish Walk Guides – East”. We decided to follow the route again last Sunday (the day of first incoming major storm of the winter). The route starts at the junction of the R114 with the road to Glenasmole at O0 ... Click here
International relations…

simon3 on Summit Meeting.
Recently John Mitchler of the US High Pointers Club was in town. The club ( ) is devoted to promoting the activity of climbing the high points of the 50 US states. Which vary from easy to serious mountaineering. The've been at it a long time, though not as long as the Munro baggers in Scotland! Being the US of course the organisation is enormous. It's organised on non-profit ... Click here
Warming to a wintry walk in Kerry
Conor74 gives us his first comment on Bennaunmore in Kerry's Mangerton area and enjoys a fascinating winter trek.
Conor74 on Bennaunmore: Kerry
Came at this from the Lough Guitane side. After the TOP petrol station in Glenflesk, take the next left (signposted Lough Guitane) and drive past the Glenflesk Art Gallery. Keep an eye out for a white wall on the left with a gate about 500 yards beyond this, looks like an entrance to a private house but takes you around the east side of the lake. The road is very bad, if driving watch the shock ... Click here
Four star pic from Three Rock
A fascinating evening shot from Little Sugar Loaf in Dublin of the gathering clouds above Two Rock as the lights of suburbia twinkle below.
Conor74 on Bennaunmore: Kerry
Came at this from the Lough Guitane side. After the TOP petrol station in Glenflesk, take the next left (signposted Lough Guitane) and drive past the Glenflesk Art Gallery. Keep an eye out for a white wall on the left with a gate about 500 yards beyond this, looks like an entrance to a private house but takes you around the east side of the lake. The road is very bad, if driving watch the shock ... Click here
Adrian Hendroff's book "From High Places"
You're invited to the launch.
ahendroff on From High Places - Dublin launch
The launch of From High Places will be at Great Outdoors, Chatham Street, Dublin 2 on December 8 at 18.30. Hope to see you there! For more information on the book, please visit Click here

More info on the book.
GPS Notes. August 2010. The latest GPS map from MV member pazapas, with more uptodate info including lakes, rivers, roads, antiquities, 150m list from this site and urban areas.
Pazapas on Emerald Island GPS map v1.96
Emerald Island GPS map v1.96 is available. This release introduces new contour lines from latest SRTM data (v4.1). OpenStreetMap data are also new and rendered with minor styling changes (artiliary range, natural protected areas, kind of forest). A major bug (maybe not present in previous version ?) is now corrected : contour lines are back with DEM colors. Note that DEM are now display at lower s ... Click here
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Mountains Bare.
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Sorry if I didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.
This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. abditorium, addeneuck, Alana, Allan601, anys, artymarty, bcon, belleek, bigronnie, bijuteriiargintb, bijuteriiarginte, bjohn, bob45, bonusu, bplum2002, brendantest, bridgetstaunton, browne, bursatransr, C-Rosie, calendaream, cartivizitasf, cartivizitasz, cartivizitatb, cconirl, Cinonaunaph, clairehardy, coco-chanel, Coereeled, colintest, connemara, conormaher, Darc, darmoweGryK2, darmoweGryK6, darmoweGryK8, daveg, davidjbennett, Desie2, DonalEnright, downlodersiksdis, Dwmrt, eanna, Eiress, ensuspike, Expibletill, fearghalo, FeenAssoppy, flemingf, frankmc04, gabby, GahUnanylam, Garaadveheari, gmullan, gratuitementc, grinmarius, grydarmoa42, grydarmoa88, grydarmof53, grydarmoq92, gryv2001l, halyin, highland, inquidisa, Instantempone29, Instantemporo12, Instantemposb94, JamesP, Jferb, jhb, jhumphreys, John-Manning, JohnHill32, johnpollock, johntheplumb, jonto1983, jschnauer, Kandifhhb, ken690, labhra, Loasiurameers, Loncolvetrect, loo99car, macgiollaleith, Mag1, maireadcasserly, maresz681, Maruder, MatthewScott, mcashell, michelleclissman, Mickaleen, monicab, Mountains, moviesxk914, musclepuller, Namatanai, nazapx, ndsykes, nicacheman, Noichoruplirl, Nol, nummer, nv011956, oblyn, omcpoy, paddyharte, papek80, patfavia, paulblackie, paulburke, pdonlon, peterf41, peterk, peterkelly, polaris, pracaaaasreas, quomodoest, robert1, Rosaleenclarke, rosaleencoyle, saltbeast, sdadswell001, Sham, shanboman, ShatAlart, simontest, solidshot, solidshot22, Styvo, tain-trail, taufin, tcarlinathlin, thatch, thatched, the_hitch_hiker, thomasfrances, tomass29, Tongo, tourloulou, truescot, ttt, TuttysymN, ubierankicpyk, Updaravalia, vengefulspud, Viziwizard, walshj86, WeaxiaHek, whelp, whitewerdna, willjoe (152)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Ben Quinn (1), Bleck Cra (5), C-Rosie (1), CaptainVertigo (4), Colin Murphy (2), Conor74 (8), Derry259 (1), Dessie1 (3), Geo (1), Tom-Fourwinds (1), barryd (2), brenno (2), dbloke (1), dhmiriam (4), exaisle (2), gerrym (1), Communal summary entries (20), grzywaczmarcin (1), jackill (4), jkforde (2), jop68 (1), kernowclimber (7), maclimber (6), madfrankie (1), mcrtchly (5), murraynolan (2), rjw68 (1), roscorrocket (1), simon3 (8), weedavie (1), wicklore (9) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: jackill (5), mcrtchly (2), simon3 (1), wicklore (23)

For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors
There were comments on the following summits Ben Lugmore East Top, Bennaunmore, Carnearny, Carrauntoohil, Cashel Hill, Cnoc na hUilleann, Cuilcagh, Errigal, Glendoo Mountain, Keeper Hill, Knocklaur, Little Sugar Loaf, Mauherslieve, Seahan, Slemish, Slieve Anierin, Trostan, Two Rock Mountain and these walks were created Brockagh Ridge Walk
Thanks to all 858 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums. .

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 4920 comments about 936 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1055). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently only around 44% There's plenty (119) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Puffin Island, Inis Tuaisceart, Maumfin, Inis na Bró, Knockaghaleague, Bunmore, Knocknascollop NW Top, Cruach Leac Chonaill, Lettertrask, Coolsnaghtig and some 25 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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