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Said to by some to have the best view in Donegal, certainly it was remarkable on this day in early September.
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Three six hundreders, great views, wilderness.
This one is well worth doing taking in Lavagh Beg, Lavagh More, Silver Hill and some other smaller summits. The route includes the top of the Grey Mare's Tail waterfall. The start very much builds on earlier contributions by csd and gerrym, for whose precision, thanks. We got a great day for it.
simon3 on North West Bluestacks Circuit
Overview This is a remote circuit including three six hundred metre summits over rough untracked ground in NW Bluestacks. On a good day expect good views to much of the rest of the Bluestacks and much of the higher ground of Donegal including even the Inishowen peninsula to the NE. Approaches Approach from the R253 Glenties to Ballybofey road. One place to park on most days is at a ch ... Click here

Walkers Association of Ireland
There is a list of events on the Walkers Association site.

Compared to the initial season last year, there's more and better coming.
Note: some date changes here.
  • 21st October - talk on Mountain Rescue
    Ronan Lenihan (Mountain Training Ireland and Glen of Imaal Mountain Rescue Team) will give a talk on mountain rescue and staying safe in the hills. Ronan was Team Leader of Ireland's busiest team for over 3 years and is currently Deputy Team Leader and senior medic. The talk will focus on mountain rescue in Wicklow and in particular on the Glen of Imaal MRT and their history and current activities. The talk will give an insight into what it is like being a member of a volunteer search and rescue team and having to be involved in a range of activities such as search management, technical rescue and of course fundraising! There will be information on staying safe in the hills and also on what you can do to help yourself and MR when it does go wrong.
  • 21st November - course on Modern Navigation (Geolives and Trailmaster) venue not set
  • 18th November - talk by John Shackleton (IRC) on Antarctica
  • 21st January 2010 - Table Quiz with any profits being donated to Mountain Rescue
  • 18th February - Talk on summiteering - by Simon Stewart.
  • 18th March - Talk on the Pyrenees
Venue for above: St. Jude's GAA in Wellington Lane, Templeogue, Dublin 6W. Click on link above for directions. In addition, WAI will also be organising a photohike (date to be confirmed) and a day's seminar/workshop in Feb/Mar on topics of interest to hillwalkers who are not quite beginners, but would like to take the hiking experience to the next level (eg navigation, campcraft, modern navigation, gear, photography, first aid etc).
WAI Photo Gallery - why not upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?

MountainViews : Summiteering growth, circle and messages.
Sport of Summiteering keeps on growing.
In 2004 when we started keeping figures, there were some 135 people using the website to log summits climbed. Today that figure stands at nearly 1000. Then just 9 people had logged climbing 100 summits, today it's 73.
MountainViews has decided to publish the figures so that you can see for yourself. This is at More | Statistics on the site.

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Recent Contributions and News
Dramatic Iveragh view
I would say that this is one for a good day as the picture looks really interesting.
dbloke on Farraniaragh Mountain
We grabbed Farraniaragh whilst whizzing round the Ring of Kerry. Parked at V509 607 just past where the Kerry Way crosses over N70 and there is a loop in the road with views NW across Ballinskelligs Bay, before the main car park at the top of the col with all the coaches and the big statue of Herself. Followed the Kerry Way S briefly, over the style before turning left and following the obvious sh ... Click here
Thefts from cars in Wicklow
Be warned, but don't give in. Photograph any cars you see cruising up and down. Well, cars or vans with one or more young males not dressed in hillwalking gear would probably be a good start to look for.
three5four0 on Larceny on Luggala
After a tramp up Kippure, where the only view available was that of our boots, we were surprised to see the mist lift and the rain stop as we drove towards Laragh. After quick discussion we decided on a quick round of Luggala & Knocknacloghoge and parked in the carpark at around 137087.

The afternoon progressed well, with good views opening up from the summit of Luggala and on our ascen ... Click here
GPS Map from pazapas
Recently I was putting the "Emerald Island" GPS map onto a friend's GPS. It's hugely improved since the last time I used it. There's far more detail. It now has the more recently added MV summits, archaeological features and even uses street map data. The latter comes from Open Street Map, a great project in its own right, very worthy of support. The GPS map is by no means yet complete, but boy does it beat the GPS experience of a few years ago which consisted of a blank screen with just your tracks shown.
pazapas has hughely improved the installation program for the GPS map. No more messing with registry settings. The main difficulty I encountered in getting the map onto the GPS was using Garmin Mapsource, their PC application. It was difficult at first to figure out how to select the layers to be uploaded. However when I relaxed my usual rule of never reading and did the RTFM thing (Read The Manual) it became easy. Upload to the GPS I found to be quick and easy.
pazapas on Ireland Map v1.91
Ireland Map v1.91 is available both for Mapsource (Windows) and Road Trip (Mac OS X). OSM layer is now routable without too much errors and it displays more features mostly in towns. Please forget v1.90. Click here
Bloody Foreland
Harry Goodman has been piling the comments on this month and ranging all over the place from Donegal to the Reeks to do it. Great views of NW Donegal from this small summit, a place not previously described in MV.
Harry Goodman on Cnoc Fola
I started my walk at the viewpoint shown on the OSI Sheet 1 1:50,000 scale at B 816322. I climbed up the long ridge east over Pt. 217 to the stoney top of the hill at 314m. This modest height commands the most westerly high point listed by MV for the Donegal NW mainland. There are fine views to the N and E of Tory Island, Inishbofin and the long fine sandy beach of the Dooey Penninsula near Ma ... Click here
Ireland of the unwelcomes - Iveragh outbreak
The owners are apparently charging 5 euro for access to a 266m summit. We wish them every failure and a speedy and safe demise. Hopefully someone can visit on a better day to assess whether the views are interesting and indeed can you reach the top without extortion.
dbloke on Geokaun
One of the easiest summits listed on Mountain Views, but also possibly the most expensive. It's easy to see where all the money goes. You will have no trouble finding Geokaun. Whether you approach Valencia Island from the bridge at Portmagee or by ferry from Reenard, every road junction has a sign to point you in the right direction. When you arrive at the security camera controlled entrance you p ... Click here
Walker waxes poetic.
This is another isolated outlier in Inishowen - doesn't sound too hard, the sort of place that you could try after doing a few more strenuous days in places like the Raghtin More to Urris Hills ridge.
gerrym on Grinlieve
Grinleive holds a sure presence, rising pyramid like to lord it over its immediate surroundings - before the biggest hills of Inishowen shout it down.
There is ample parking at 482371where a forestry track leaves the road. Cross the busy road and drop down to an equally busy little river - may have to follow upstream to where it splts in two for an easy crossing. Climb up out of the river val ... Click here
Fine photo of a fine summit with once-disputed access.
Take a look at this for an interesting view of one way of getting to the top of Benwiskin. I understand that the access situation is much improved there, though it would probably pay to be careful and as always, respectful.
wicklore on Benwiskin
I followed eflanaga's route taking in Benbulbin, Benwiskin and Slievemore. It was a long hike and I measured it at about 20 kms return. After chatting to a family on Benbulbin for a few minutes I didn't see another person for the rest of the day. The walk to Benwiskin is long and hard, with rough ground and a lack of a path. I was tired when I reached Benwiskin, and there was still the return jour ... Click here
Congratulations to another completer
Before the MV lists there was the VL or Vandeleur-Lynam list of 600m summits and also the book by Paddy Dillon with its terse listing of 2000 footers (609.6m). Take a look at this description of how roscorocket did the latter, finishing on Carrauntoohil with friends and champagne (look at entries for Carrauntoohil also). According to the MV Summiteers Hall of Fame member roscorocket stands at number 2 in terms of 600m summits and 8 in terms of all summit types. Congratulations again.
roscorrocket on The
Just complete the 212 2000foot summits as listed by Paddy Dillon 'the Mountains of Ireland' (1992) with an ascent of Masatiompan in a gale on 20th August. It all started with a trip up Cuilcagh on 1st August 1998, the first hill walking i'd done since my PE training a decade before. Soon I'd caught the bug and when a colleague (thanks a lot Phil) gave me a copy of Dillon's book, a quest which too ... Click here
the Cra on An Gunna Mr
You'd have to love this one, if you like the Cra style.
Bleck Cra on The Big Gun
A light mist lifted from the Big Gun, and a dull silence descended on the six souls pitched on Cnoc na Peiste. LEET of the North’s Wee Binnians Club. Desperate McConville, the O’Driscoll Mhor, Descendan Kirk and mviewers, Maclimber, Seannickell and Bleck Cra. The binos passed left to right and the reality of the task took grisly shape. A Saturday looping Coomloughra fuelled by Friday Guinness had ... Click here
Summit archaeology
Having had the great privilege to visit this less well known gem, I can fully endorse the sentiments here.
cormacg on Slieve Na Calliagh
The Loughcrew Gardens website (www.loughcrew.com) describes these cairns as the best kept secret in archaeological Ireland. They're not joking. We were lucky to be there at the same time as someone with a key to the cairn on top of Carnbane East. We're coming back next March. Only fifty people out of 32,955, applied successfully to be at Newgrange this December for the winter solstice. Turn u ... Click here
Sorry if I didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.

Site notes If you can set-up your email to get web-format ("html format"), you should be able to get more out of this newsletter. Previous Newsletters
GPS Notes. Would you like a map on your GPS so that you can visualise summits, contours etc? Well, depending on whether you have the right sort of GPS and your willingness to do a bit of uploading, we may have the answer.
simon3 on GPS for Ireland, article, download.
Currently MV provides GPS information in the form of waypoints that indicate the summit positions of all of the mountains in our list. While better than nothing this still does not use the full potential of GPS units . Essentially these can show maps and points of interest. There is no commercial product for GPS units at present, however we are pleased to announce the results of various communi ... Click here

Also the latest from MV member pazapas, with more uptodate info including lakes, rivers, roads, antiquities, 150m list from this site and urban areas.
pazapas on Ireland Map v1.91
Ireland Map v1.91 is available both for Mapsource (Windows) and Road Trip (Mac OS X). OSM layer is now routable without too much errors and it displays more features mostly in towns. Please forget v1.90. Click here

This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. a-cunningham, AchillBeg2010, acunningham, adam_dublin, agsuil, aineg, aj, alanwalker, aoifeshinners, bargo, billywar, bobschall, bottleghost, brianjomalley, burren, bytheway, ccunningham, chrislcase, collegeclimber, colyzee, cormac1foley, Couchcoach, CownsisaNitat, D-Prendergast, DanielaMueller, dastra, daveandpol, Daywalker, dburke, defly, delboygrant, dermo99, desoman, dferris, dogsbollix, drambler, eamontumilty, eamxx, Ed_5725, ejtx, ElaineK83, eltonj, endareynolds, feinbain, Floodybuddy, francescom, fuse, gbrad2x, ghw1964, glasgowjim, gortdrom, grahamhshortt, hannahgrene, hickster, Hobbler, hollowchick, iorgman, JacintaGarrihy, jimmyjimjim12345, JoeKellydiver, johnbarry, johnbhillwakers, johnholson, johnnymcgrath, jop68, jumpingjack, Key, killianmurry, kpc, krnharn, lcd, legsoflead, louzde86, maclochlainn, magyel, markdn, marocha, MaryL, mattp, maude, mcgowanp, messnerjr, mgm2009, michael_mac, mickbyrne, mirka, misstina, mm__2k9, mnm__2k9, monikacieslowska, monisr, mullaghcarncon, mullaghcarncon1, mumblesmike, nattyguest, nbh, neiljbrookes, NiamhD, nickhx, nickl, nomo77, OBeara, obriencait, olliec, ondrique, orladrohan, pathlover, Pegs13, pejsman, philipmcgowan, phoward, piskai, pmduggan, PompeyPaddy, PompeyPaddy2, proon4, publicrealm, Rambler100, richie-b, ronanmacdermott, sara09, seamusdoohan, seane, seaneog, sebvdm, SharonBree, shteep, silentbob, Smiffy, Steven-Dodd, summitchaser, sunnyjim, Tadie1lawphy, terger, The_Dude, timoman, tipper, tomasirl, traveller, trig, trudger, vaidas05, Vb, vdangerous, vincentrhatigan, wahlrab, wardo, weirview, Westcorkcycling, wizard16, wizardbanks, yannick (152)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Alex92 (1), Audi-Anne (1), Ben Quinn (1), Bleck Cra (2), Brendan777 (1), Conor74 (1), Geo (3), Harry Goodman (18), Redtop (1), SharonBree (1), YoungJohn (4), ahendroff (4), bargo (1), barryredmond (1), brenno (2), bushman (1), colin murphy (7), colyzee (1), cormacg (1), csd (1), dbloke (5), dsc555 (1), gerrym (5), glasgowjim (1), jackill (2), kevin dockery (1), maclimber (1), madfrankie (1), oldsoldier (4), osullivanm (1), paddyhillsbagger (1), pathlover (1), pazapas (1), pplsgod (3), reidyden (1), roscorrocket (2), sbender (6), scannerman (4), simon3 (8), suebrooks (1), three5four0 (13), tommyhogan (1), trudger (1), ucampbell (1), vikinghar (1), wicklore (8) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: csd (1), Geo (2), JACKILL (29), simon3 (8), Wicklore (21)

For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors
There were comments on the following summits Arderin, Ballineddan Mountain, Ballycumber Hill, Baunreaghcong, Beenduff, Ben Creggan South Top, Benduff, Benwiskin, Binn Chorr, Binnion, Bolaght Mountain, Brandon, Bray Head, Bricklieve Mountains, Bulbin, Butter Mountain, Caher, Caher West Top, Camenabologue, Carrauntoohil, Ceann Sibéal, Clomantagh Hill, Cnoc an Iolair, Cnoc Fola, Cnoc na Boirne, Conavalla, Crenville, Crockalough, Crockmore, Cruach Mhárthain, Cruach Thiobraide, Cullaghacro, Curlew Mountains, Divis, Emlagh, Farbreague , Farraniaragh Mountain, Galtymore, Gaugin Mountain, Geokaun, Great Sugar Loaf, Gregory Hill, Grinlieve, Kilduff Mountain, Knockalla , Knockalough, Knockanore , Knockbrack, Knockbrinnea (E), Knocknalougha, Knocknaskereighta, Lack Mountain, Lobawn, Loughsalt Mountain, Lugduff, Lugduff SE Top, Lugnaquillia, Maulin Mountain, Milk Hill, Millstone Mountain, Moanlaur, Mouldy Hill, Mount Leinster, Mount Leinster East Top, Moylenanav, Moylussa, Mullaghbeg, Mullaghcleevaun, Owenreagh Hill, Ridge of Capard, Rinn Chonaill, Scarr, Seltannasaggart, Skerry Hill, Sliabh an tSratha Greadaithe, Slieve Donard, Slieve Gullion, Slieve Na Calliagh, Slievelamagan, Slievemeen, Slievemore, Slievenahanaghan, Struicín, Tawny Rower, Tawnyard, The Big Gun, Tievedockaragh, Tievnabinnia, Tievnabinnia East Top, Torc Mountain W Top, Tountinna, Wolftrap Mountain and these walks were created North West Bluestacks Circuit
Thanks to all 720 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums. .

For a full list view Community | Contributors Hall of Fame

Summary. MountainViews now has 3765 comments about 823 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1054). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently around 39% There's plenty (231) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Carnanelly West Top, Puffin Island, Inis Tuaisceart, Maumfin, Inis na Bró, Carhoo Hill, Edenacarnan, Carranarah, An Tiaracht, Croaghan Hill and some 70 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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