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Surreal performance on Carnaween, Bluestacks - see Contributions & News below. or
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The sky was black and bottomed at 2500' (Ed: 760m for the non-imperial). Beneath was a world of mellow mists and turbulent streams. He drew breath - and out it came - between a grunt and a shout, a bark and a foghorn, a cow and a carburettor. Twelve points stood on antlers the size of totem poles. And he roared defiance - hero, albeit across a drop of a thousand feet. I was speechless, right up to the point a small, emaciated man in blue canvas shorts burst running out of the mist, smiled "Good Morning" and bolted back into it as fast as he had emerged. "Good M …." I began. The mist closed. The monarch melted and himself was probably now in the next county. It was twenty years ago and the first fell runner I or perhaps anyone had ever seen outside of Kendal.
Today you open any outdoorzy magazine and forests of fell-running lit cascade over your confounded feet.
" ... seeking a medal or a cardiac arrest.."
Run up this, run up that, run down this, run down that - and if neither presents itself, run at or away from something; just as long as you run. Open your sarnies and a hundred fell runners will run clean over the top of you. I was recently ascending a well known blx of a thing in the North pursued by a ribbon of runners seeking a medal or a cardiac arrest. To let them through, I took a steeper, more unpleasant route only to find the footprints of their pacesetters there in front of me, themselves long gone and running vertically upwards. Have I missed something? Have lions escaped from the zoo? Are crocodiles on the loose? How else can we explain such running? Perhaps it's to do with these healthy new breakfasts we get ….. and run like the wind.

Your comments or suggestions to The Scrabbler.


Traverse of the Cooleys. ahendroff, MV's currently leading summiteer, shows us a route where you can summit eight times on one trip! I can recommend the Cooleys for a great days walking, with views of the Mournes, Isle of Man and even Wicklow.
ahendroff on Traverse of the Cooleys
Overview This is a point to point walk exploring the gentle, grassy hills W/NW of Windy Gap and the rougher, rockier summits E/SE of the same. The view are far-reaching, especially on the ridge leading to Slieve Foye and on a clear day even the Isle of Man could be seen. Parking and Tactics Leave a car at the Tourist Information Centre in Carlingford. Drive to Omeath and take a left at ... Click here
Coastal Walk in Inishowen
So, you have driven all the way to Inishowen, you've done the Urris Hills Raghtin ridge or Slieve Snaght and/ or it's pouring. You need some light relief. Enter experteesLtd, a new member, who has provided us with a great description of a coastal walk for you to use. Looks spectacular to me - and would probably be most exciting in bad or at least windy weather. Worth looking at just for the pics as well. experteesLtd on Knockmany Bens Traverse
Overview Spectacular coastal walk, to the South of Malin Head,with dramatic views of Dunaff Head, Errigal, Muckish, Horn Head, Tory Island, Bloody Foreland (and The Empire State Building on a clear day!). Described as a linear walk, with a car at either end, but short enough to do "there and back" if desired.     Approaches Travel from Derry, through Carndonagh to Malin To ... Click here
Eastern Bluestacks Crossing. I have only visited the Bluestacks twice - there's a lot to see and I think this linear walk might be a good way to to. Congratulations murphysw.
murphysw on Eastern Bluestacks Crossing
Overview Stunning walk through isolated glens and over peaks with all encompassing views of the Bluestacks. The ground is good in higher areas though this being Donegal, lower down is quite spongy. Due to a noticeable absence of sheep, some areas, especially the south side of Croaghnageer are very grassy making the ascent tough going. For most of the walk, the descent from Cronamuck excepted, ... Click here
Raghtin - Mamore - Urris Hills Ridge Walk.
If you are in Donegal you'll need to try this ridge. It's not very high but has great seaviews. It's good underfoot (quartzite) and has around 1000m of ascent.
What comes to mind when we think of ridges in Ireland? Off the top of my head, here's a few:

Scottish like Beenkeragh,
Windy Caher Carrauntoohil
Scrambling Reeks ridge
Jagged Corranabinnia,
Arduous Derryclare circuit and others in the Bens,
Magnificent Maamturks,
Desolate Cummeenbaun east,
Trampled Derrybawn,
Rugged Ben Gorm east,
Sea-on-both-sides east Cooleys,
Sculpture park Binnian,
Ben Lugmores
Scary Slieve League,
Faha Ridge and some others round there,
Photogenic Moanlaur,
Lakebound An Bhinn Láir,
Caherconree Baurtregaum,
Teeromoyle Tooth Terror
Anaffrin E Top to Glenthomas Top
Errigal summit ridge
( Any more suggestions? )
These are all ridges in that the route is reasonably level but the ground falls away fast on both sides as opposed to scarps (steep one side only) or spurs (main line descending fast). Anyway the Raghtin to Urris Hills ridge walk is around 8k of jagged ridge with sharp drops to the sides and fully deserves to be included in the list of famous ridges.
simon3 on Raghtin - Mamore - Urris Hills Ridge Walk.
Overview A spectacular walk along one of the great ridges of Ireland with plenty of climbing and sea-views on the western side of Inishowen in the far north of Donegal and the island of Ireland. Heights only just reach 500m but views are good and this walk has a high amount of climbing in a short length so it good for training. This walk requires transport at both ends. Approaches Fro ... Click here

Recent Contributions and News
King of surreal lives on Carnaween
If you just click on one link this month, try this one.
madfrankie on Carnaween
Last Sunday I saw Elvis on Carnaween. Read on, unbelievers... As Carnaween is a bit of a western outlier, doing it on it’s own is not a bad idea, especially if time, weather or laziness is a factor. From the south, drive through the village of Letterbarrow and continue for a mile or two till you come to the local soccer pitch. Turn left (signposted Disert Graveyard) and then right where there’s ... Click here
Wild south Iveragh
There's a few places in Ireland that have high plateaus around with interesting sides. Maumtrasna perhaps is pre-eminent with 10 corries. Then there's the Comeraghs. Even the Percy Table bits of Lugnaquillia. None are as unvisited or wild as the area between Knockmoyle, Knocknagantee, Coomnacronia and Coomura Mountain in SW Kerry. Are you an assessor of mountain leaders? Try some navigational tests on your victims on a dark night up there.
Peter Walker on Coomura Mtn
Point A on Simon's Google Earth visualisation...I left my rucksack there for a quick there-and-back up Knockmoyle, and it was something of a relief to find it again! It's that kind of area. If blessed with razor-sharp visibility route-finding is easy hereabouts, but it's all too obvious what a challenge it would be in mist: having walked from Mullaghanattin, I'd intended to go as far as Knocknagan ... Click here
MountainViews Summit position project
MountainViews is running a project to more accurately establish the position of the 840 summits we currently list. Assuming you have a GPS it's easy to join in. Just take a reading (in Ordnance Survey 10 digit coords) for the position of a summit - often it's the top of a cairn - and then enter it using the "Amend" button beside the Grid Reference in the Summit page. Periodically the amended readings are averaged and then made available through the GPS listing feature.
Some 25 new readings came in this month. 461 summits now have at least one reading. Without these readings the positions can be quite far out, sometimes over 300m, although typically only 40 to 80m.
Thanks to all that are helping.
Arenig Fawr
Does anyone else have stories of what they saw on Sun 15th June 08? Certainly from the top of Lugnaquillia our party was amazed at the clarity of the view of the Galtees (133km). On analysis of photos with a handy tool www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/panoramas.html it was possible to identify Arenig Fawr 183km away in Wales.
simon3 on Lugnaquillia
On 15th June 2008 there was a cool, gentle northern wind which seems to have settled the dust and allowed long distance views. Nearer places like Mount Leinster and Croghan Kinsella were clearly visible along with parts of the Mournes, much of the Welsh coast (160km away) and the view of the Galty Mountains (133km away) below. The furthest place I have been able to identify in the photos from tha ... Click here
Taming of the wilderness rather than its preservation?
A thoughtful piece. (Note another comment about the "Plastic Path" that's appeared near Slieve Maan in Wicklow)
padodes on A path in the wilderness
The other day, crossing from Scarr to Brocagh (Wicklow), I came upon a very enthusiastic Mountain Meitheal group busily laying a boardwalk not far from the wooden bridge that crosses Glenmacnass River at T141 973. This new assemblage, not unlike those to be seen around Glendalough, runs into the dense thickets between the road (R115) and the river. I was so surprised that anyone would think of bui ... Click here
The fine weather has brought out more contributors than almost ever previously - there was 69 mountain contributions this month (only surpassed once before in 2004) as well as 4 route descriptions.
Bluestacks and Australia
Currently our seventh most prolific contributor, murphysw describes one place in the Bluestacks as "an Irish Ayers Rock"
murphysw on Cronamuck
Walked from Barnesmore Gap to Commeen and Cronamuck. The views from the summit are superb and climbing the mountain from the Commeen side would be straightforward. As a child I used to think Cronamuck looked an Irish Ayers Rock! Click here
The Photography of Mountain Panoramas
Either josvanderlinden has a seriously wideangle lens (around 15mm equiv) or he has mastered the art of stitching to take this picture of Lough Ouler. (If you can, try the stitching system in Adobe Bridge/ Photoshop CS3 recently .. better than any I have seen.)
josvanderlinden on Stoney Top
On the 8th of June I walked from Stoney Top to Tonelagee Mountain, I've passed a cross inscribed pillar and made this photo looking North-West overseeing Lough Ouler. Click here
This is the first comment recorded for any summit in the Mullaghareirks, a group of seven in north west Cork. The horse had left the one horse town according to dbloke. Personally, given a choice between sitting doing nothing and walking around a forest on a wet cold windy day, I would go for the forest. Surely there must be some redeeming feature to this area! Go on someone else that lives near there - what else is there?
(Ok dbloke, we are still grateful that you put a comment in since the members want to know informed views.)
dbloke on Mullaghareirk
There is very little to recommend about Mullaghareirk. Unless endless miles of forestry tracks and fir trees are your thing. Studying OS map 72 it would appear the other summits in the region have succommed to the same fate. It is hardly surprising that nobody has commented on any of the Mullaghareirks yet. There is nothing to mark the summit of Mullaghareirk, just a lot of trees and the remains o ... Click here
Walkers Association: Challenge Walks Calendar.
As well as the regulars, some new ones have been announced such as the Moyle Challenge and the Clare Burren Marathon Challenge. The Wayfarers are organising a walk in July in Wicklow - More Info Here on the WAI site. There was a good crowd started the Glen of Imaal challenge I heard. .
Challenge Walks Calendar
Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.

Site notes If you can set-up your email to get web-format ("html format"), you should be able to get more out of this newsletter. Previous Newsletters
Getting a map on your GPS. Would you like a map on your GPS so that you can visualise summits, contours etc? Well, depending on whether you have the right sort of GPS and your willingness to do a bit of uploading, we may have the answer.
simon3 on GPS for Ireland, article, download.
Currently MV provides GPS information in the form of waypoints that indicate the summit positions of all of the mountains in our list. While better than nothing this still does not use the full potential of GPS units . Essentially these can show maps and points of interest. There is no commercial product for GPS units at present, however we are pleased to announce the results of various communi ... Click here

This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. adagio, aglover, aidan-blighe, Aisling_D, AlanWhelan, angland, anzana, aoifed, aperezmaza, armstros, atees, barragry, beechwood, bicycleman, bigstuff110, billyh, blackrocket, blade, Bothy_Bob, Brendan01, brennam, brianmcguinness, buckleyfintan, campionm, carolineomal, cato177, CGormley, charlesjjobyrne, chaz, chrisrayner, claired, claus_petersen, clodaght, cmg, ColinFlood, colmward, Cormac_L, costello, cukrous, Cullen90, Cumulus, dairefitz, damo-andy, davidlisahannah, davidrichardson, Dead_Leg, Debbie, DeclanCampbell, Declan_Holland, dec_k, denisreeves, des08, Dev, doreen, douglas81, drefus, Eddie_Keogh, edwardodea, ekeogh, EllenW, Ellie, Eoghanachta, ewren, experteesLtd, Fi, frankmills, garethj, GaryMatthews, gcollins, georgie, gercleary, gerrykeogh, gi, ginnyc, hadwood, HelenFairbairn, henkkoevoets, henkkoevoets1, hooverfixerguy, irishclover1963, jamesc, jamesf, jameslynch, janeohare, Jason-Calvert, jenfitz, jerem, jimm, jimmyg, jmccar, jofbray, johncafnan, johnm, johnwalsh, jonathan29, jpc, julian, Juliem-m, karenire, kathrynnorris, kennedykelly, Kevinp, kforrest, kjquaile, kowlesy, littlemongy, LuceyAnne, madmax, Maike-Doll, majulynch, margaretbsmith, MarkSturme, martinloftus, MartinS, mary31ryan, maryputt, matty, maurantony, maxie, mccarti, miakiraga1, michaelbix, michellemcdonagh, mightywhyte, mikeygd, Milada, mini, mjd46, mountainview, mq, Muireadach, murpheb, murphs, murrisk, neilbyr, neylinm, Nicholas_Hill, nieuport17, nimrodj, obrienjoe, okeeffe, oshigamy, paddycasey, paddywacker, pajo60, paperchase, patcoleman, patmohally, patqu1, patrickwilliam, Paulrob, pepe09, PeterS, Phoenix, pkenneally, pmpryan, poblo2248, preilly77, quashie, rachel1016, richod, ridgewalker, rjs, rmccabe, robhenaghan, roiskev, rosy, ruaidhri, seamusbrady, SeamusOdonnell, seanachan, senart, setanta59, sgtzara, shaneteefy, sineadhill, sinner, snc, sorebus1, sorensen, stevieb, straaachan, stukeen, susani, terences, three5four0, Timn, tomby, tt14, tyfan, ulala28, ultra_mega_dude, unamcm, vwcamper, warrenpark, wayfarers, waynelee, Wolfie-Rich, zigzag, zigzag188 (200)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Colin Murphy (6), Harry Goodman (1), Inazone (2), Jaak (1), Jimmy barry (1), Peter Walker (3), ahendroff (2), bicycleman (1), brianmcguinness (1), csd (9), david bourke (1), david kirk (2), dbloke (3), experteesLtd (1), gerrym (4), gureillatalk (1), jeancan (1), john_desmond (4), josvanderlinden (13), kaybee (1), madfrankie (2), mart (1), mcna (1), murphysw (3), padodes (6), paulca (1), pdtempan (4), pkenneally (1), pquinn572 (3), sbender (1), simon3 (13), susani (1), txantxangorri (1), tyfan (1), valerieh (1) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: csd (7), Jaak (1), john_desmond (13), simon3 (4)
There were comments on the following mountains Ballinafunshoge, Ben Creggan South Top, Ben Lugmore East Top, Benchoona, Bencroy, Benlettery, Benwiskin, Bessy Bell, Binn Ghuaire, Black Hill, Caherconree, Carnaween, Carrauntoohil, Carrigalougha, Carrigvore, Cloghernagh, Coomura Mtn, Cronamuck, Cush, Djouce Mtn, Doughruagh, Douglas Top, Duff Hill, Galtybeg, Galtymore, Garraun, Garraun South Top, Knockacullion, Knockowen, Knocksheegowna, Laghtnafrankee, Laghtnafrankee SW Top, Long Hill, Lugnaquillia, Mount Leinster, Mount Leinster East Top, Mullaghanattin, Mullaghareirk, Mullaghcarn, Mullaghcleevaun East Top, Mweelin, Owenreagh Hill, Scarr, Seefin, Slieve Binnian East Top, Slieve Donard, Slieve Snaght, Slievebaun, Slieveboy, Slievecorragh, Stoney Top, Tonelagee, Urris Hills, War Hill and these walks were created Circuit of Dargle Valley, Eastern Bluestacks Crossing, Knockmany Bens Traverse, Raghtin - Mamore - Urris Hills Ridge Walk., Traverse of the Cooleys
Thanks to all 548 who have ever contributed (including summits, forums and routes)
The five who have contributed most to the site are simon3 (448), csd (232), jackill (147), Bleck Cra (131), gerrym (126).
Summary. MountainViews now has 2808 comments about 595 different mountains out of the total in our current full list (840). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 400m summits have been added is currently around 35% There's plenty (245) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service.
Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
Report quads in national park areas (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a mountain rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Cnoc Onna, Hangmans Hill, Barraduff Mountain, Killaha Mountain, Tirkslieve, Croaghmeen, Croaghbrack, Shaking Rock, Cloghervaddy, Crockalough and some 7 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a mountain so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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