June 2008 newsletter from MountainViews.ie
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/mv/index.php?user=guestuser&tp=921Rn3F7LcY4g'center'> Near An Corrán/ Finnararagh in the Iveragh Mountains
ahendroff's debut walking route includes this picture of the magnificent rough land around An Corrán aka Finnararagh in the underrated west end of the Iveraghs. (See if you can see the second lake.) Take a look at the excellent description of the route:
Cloon Horseshoe

MountainViews is now 6 years old. We have improved the menu system and reorganised it to include a "community" section which groups things like the list of Mountain Commenters with the Summiteers Hall of Fame, the credits to volunteers and a new report as below.
MountainViews is now 6 years old. As well as the over 3000 summit comments entered (with over 2000 photos) many people have chosen to record their personal summiteering with us. After trawling through old backup data I put together this graph of the numbers of people who claim different levels of achievement. And yes, it is an achievement and a success to climb 100 Irish summits. Or 25 of your Local 100, or the Highest 100. As in the neighbouring island people in the hundreds are finding summiteering a valuable spur to seeing more summits, different areas etc. But let the figures speak for themselves.
Graph of rising numbers interested in summiteering in Ireland as recorded by MV

So if you do a bit of summiteering to explore be aware that hundreds of other people are also interested..
On that note, do you want to see how you are "progressing up the charts"? See our new report: "Rising Summiteers" which shows the people who have logged the most summits in the last three months or so. Because it is usually easier for newcomers to reach more summits quickly the list has some different names at the top to those that are at the top of the Hall of Fame which is cumulative.
The report also has an advanced section if you choose to use it which can show different periods or show who is doing particularly well on our other lists such as the Highest 100. For example the people who have logged the most summits in the last 3 months on the Local 100 list are Colette, hako, ChrisG. (New names to me! but hey, thousands have enrolled on the site).
Incidentally this listing system will work best if we all log new summits we have climbed reasonably soon afterwards. So apart from the usual spurt when people discover the site and put in what they have previously done, it will then be more a record of who's been exploring hard recently.
Did I mention MountainViews is now 6 years old? It continues to be great fun for me and the many people who have helped by adding their experiences of the Irish hills and in many other ways.


Cloon Horseshoe
ahendroff, summiteer extraordinaire, has produced this excellent guide to one of the toughest but most rewarding circuits in Iveragh and in Ireland. (Excellent pics also such as the one we used to introduce this newsletter.) ahendroff on Cloon Horseshoe
Overview A challenging, commiting walk in the heart of the Iveragh Peninsula. The reward? Spectacular views beyond belief. Best reserved for a clear day. For experienced hillwalkers only. In the winter this walk could be a serious proposition. Be well stocked up for food, carry a mini stove if you have one, else bring some water purification tablets or plenty of water. Approaches Park a ... Click here
Kelly's Lough Circuit and Lugnaquillia
Great walk tackling Lugnaquilla (Wicklow) from the East Many people, no - hordes, descend on Glenmalure Lodge and walk up from there to Lug every week. Padodes's route starts a bit higher which would mean less road walking. I don't think that the published ascent of 1365m is correct however. I'd have thought nearer 1100m.
padodes has used MV's format creatively such as by including an overview from Google earth. Way to go in all senses! padodes on Kelly's Lough Circuit and Lugnaquillia
Overview This is a circuit above Kelly’s Lough in the heart of the Wicklow Mountains, which also takes in Lugnaquillia as an obvious extra. I have chosen to approach it from the south, which means that the hike is bracketed by a good walk-in and walk-out through the forest.   Approaches The starting point is a forest entrance (T098 890) along the Military Road from Drumgoff to Agh ... Click here


Walking festivals. What odd things. Think about it. A bunch of seemingly normal people, who albeit have lost the colourfast button on their washing machines, traipse across Ireland for days, charting pointless black bog and pig tracks, invariably East/West rather than North/South - the former of which every migrating creature knows to be impossible - to congregate at an arcane sabbath, disgorge magic lore about this and other wiccan days-away - and then do what? Walk. Not somersault or run, leap or fly, spin or plummet. But walk: an involuntary movement for most of us. Walk to the shop. Walk to the pub. Walk to the walking club. Relate this to any normal human, the length of the meridian and they freeze, rigid with bafflement. "Walking festival - very erm, interesting…" Of course they fail to grasp that the farther you walk the more you need to drink - beer. And this Bacchanalian entry in the festival routine is where walking festivals come into their own.
" … prim spinsters proffer cleavages with the confidence of the Grand Canyon.."
It is at this juncture after a hard day's dehydration in the hills, grown men can hang by their khakis from the light shades, prim spinsters proffer cleavages with the confidence of the Grand Canyon and social manoeuvres outmanoeuvre Jane Austen herself. Endless exchanges of invitations for more of the same, leave your average swingers club at the starting grid. And as for the … Quiz (which is an obligation at these events) … if you can extract yourself without a new life partner, a black eye or both, you have won. Excluding but a couple of months, it is now possible to load your diary with nothing but walking festivals from one end of the year to the other. For non-hillwalkers this remains a mystery. For the makers of anabolic steroids ……….

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Recent Contributions and News
The Ferret Cra goes right wrong at the end.
Vintage Cra - if you enjoy his mountain musings you will enjoy this piece of self-deprecation.
Bleck Cra on Galtybeg
Someone once said that the thing you fear most has already happened. At the inclement turn of last year, I posted on mvs a piece about the Galtees and a day replete with misery, “misplaced” bearings, danger and a longing never to go back. The hillwalk-from-Hell included an awful and tortuous trail back courtesy of John Loudon MacAdam. May his tarry bones…….. Hours later, in front of a roaring fire ... Click here
.. sight of a battle field, with the sun shining strongly on the tree stumps ..
gerrym tries out a walk published elsewhere and goes all evocative on us.
He also has included some interesting comments on summits on Inishowen (Donegal). I'm going up there this month so I hope to sample some of the spots.
gerrym on Croaghan
This walk came to my attention through 'walkni.com ' - a 50 page booklet with brief walk descriptions throughout N. Ireland is available free from thier site. The start is approached from the A44 to Ballycastle, following the sign for the Orra Beg scenic route towards the line of the Antrim Hills. This road rises to over 1000ft and the carpark at Altarichard (123293). A packed information board de ... Click here
Newcomer donieg describes Benbulbin, Benwiskin, Slievemore walk.
The occasional interludes of good weather have brought out some great descriptions of places. donieg described his trip to Benbulbin, that iconic summit of the North-west. It's interesting that we have only rated it at 83% behind some 180 other summits which just shows how many great places there are.
donieg on Benbulbin
Thursday 29.05.2008 a beautifull sunny day I decided to take on the three peaks challenge of Benbulbin followed by Benwiskin and finally Slievemore. I found 'eflanaga' comment of 15.03.06 helpfull and started my climb from the same track as described in his comment. Found the steep climb to the summit of Benbulbin tough as it starts immediately - no gentle warming up time, its straight up after go ... Click here
new member thisbliss adds his tuppence worth .. must say that I agree where (s)he says " Also couldn't get over the wilderness of it all, its not that its that hard to climb, just that its in the middle of bloody nowhere!" That's been my experience tackling it from north or south.
thisbliss on Cuilcagh
Parked at a park in Gortalughany townland (H168301)! There is a good view from here and is handy as it gets you up to 300m straight off. However there is still loads to do! Walked to near end of tarmac and then took grassy track (marked on map) sharp right, over a few gates, past a megalithic tomb (unable to find it) and came to Legacurragh, a large eroded channel. Just here the Ulster way runs pa ... Click here
padodes who's been writing for MV for a year, (still a blow-in then) has a couple of nice pieces on Scarr and Kanturk. If you know the area you will appreciate his description of the difference between the two.
padodes on Scarr
Although Kanturk (Brown Mountain) isn’t included in the MV list for Wicklow and seems to be treated in comments as an appendix to Scarr, I think walkers usually get a different impression ‘on the ground’. For one thing, Scarr runs N to S, whereas Kanturk runs broadly E to W. For another, Scarr is a narrow mica-schist ridge, whereas Kanturk is a broad sequence of scattered granite hummocks (the hig ... Click here
Agnew's Hill
Yes, I hadn't heard of it either. It's 474 metres and at the south east end of the Antrim Hills. Our erudite list enhancer pdtempan has this one. Apparently you can reach the start by public transport.
pdtempan on Agnew's Hill
Wot, no comments? Let's see about that! Agnew's Hill is the highest hill in Mid-Antrim, being higher than Slemish. It presents a broad line of east-facing crags when seen from Larne, which give it a rather sombre look, especially in the afternoon. Probably the most important thing to say about Agnew's Hill is that it is now open for business again. The access problem on the Ulster Way has bee ... Click here
Three Nutters reach the top of Gortagarry
Well probably reached. The place is wall to wall Sitka spruce. ahendroff, madfrankie and me (simon3) reached the outskirts and in a fit of mad-bagger foolishness did some 70m of spruce bashing to what appeared to be the summit. We've amended the Grid Ref to S03146 73194 but you are welcome to contradict us IF you go there yourself. Though I'd wait 10 years if I were you.
Seriously though Gortagarry's summit area if not the top gives great views of what we are calling the Shannon region. Thirty eight summits, many perhaps not so high but the three others we visited on that day had their charms. The interesting thing is that with better roads we could get to nearby Moneygall on the main road Dublin to Limerick in 1 hour 20 min from the Mad Cow (Dublin M50). Now that's less time than going to the Mournes from Dublin.
ahendroff on Gortagarry
The summit of Gortagarry is enveloped in pine trees. There is a bit of a clearing in what may be potentially the "summit" but it's a fair bash into the trees and is for die-hard baggers only. Thanks to Simon's GPS and gentle beckoning we would have never made it back out! Zip up all your pockets for this one if you don't want to spend a considerable amount of time picking out pine needles before t ... Click here
Bog-rippers on quads or trail-bikes
A practical suggestion for parts of Wicklow at least.
aido on quads in wicklow
following on and maybe this suggeston was made before but if people see quads in the national park area (in which they are banned) please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800, it has to be reported. put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. the message needs to go out. Click here

While relaxing after exercise at Fenton's pub (Near Camara Hill on the way up Lugnaquillia, Co Widklow), a friend of mine witnessed this tableaux. Car draws up beside outside tables of the the pub. Doors opened. Car stereo put on loud. Series of over-weight specimens of manhood start drinking and start discussing which sort of quad they have. Says one: "we're not wanted up there" Says the other: "where are we supposed to go with the bikes?". Ah yes where indeed.
Wicklow area Mountain Rescue Fundraising Walk
The Wayfarers are organising a decent selection of hillwalks in Wicklow on 12th July in aid of Mountain Rescue. Looks interesting.
More Info Here on the WAI site
The Elevation of Bran Scultair
Some of the more southerly summits of the Blackstairs are not so spectacular as their northern comrades but this comment and photo from the prolific murphysw manages to make Bran Scultair look magnificent. It's the way you tell it.
Torc en Francais
Fabulous photo in any language though I must admit had I taken it I would have photoshopped out some of the haze.
zet on Torc Mountain
C'est une montagne que j'ai grimpée en 2004, avec mon conjoint. Nous avons adoré la vue qui s'est offerte ŕ nous rendus au sommet. Le parcours était bien, pas trop dur. Une bonne partie du parcours se fait sur un trottoir de bois. C'était une trčs belle ballade ! La photo nous montre une belle perspective...et une vue spectaculaire et une évasion parfaite ! Click here
Master's Apprentice 2
TAKE PART IN A NEW RTÉ 1 SERIES TO SEE IF YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO START A SUCCESSFUL WALKING TOUR COMPANY! .. looking for self starters (of any age) this summer who are enthusiastic and want to learn all about the nuts and bolts of a successful walking tour company .. on the
Click here (WAI site)
More Hill and Mountain Culture
simon3 on Scottish Mountain Names
For those interested in mountain names, be aware of the work of Drummond in Scotland who brought out a book on the subject. There are many connections between Irish mountain names and Scottish ones. Almost all Irish mountains were originally names in gaelic. Paul Tempan, frequent contributor to MV, has brought out a review of this book see More | Resources with references to common ancestry of ... Click here
New Zealand

simon3 on Summiteering in New Zealand
If you are thinking of going there take a look at this site:
www.peakbagging.co.nz It has been created by Jon Povey with whom I have been corresponding. He has created a site with similar aims to MV but for NZ. We wish him good luck. And also wish we had those summits here! Click here
Walkers Association: Challenge Walks Calendar.
Let's hope the Gus Tobin Galty walk gets some of the good weather next weekend. This is a good year for challenge walks. As well as the regulars, some new ones have been announced such as the Moyle Challenge and the Clare Burren Marathon Challenge. The Wayfarers are organising a walk in July in Wicklow. There was a problem however with the 12 Bens but we would love to hear reports of the alternative island hopping which sounded great .
Challenge Walks Calendar
Sorry if I didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.

Site notes If you can set-up your email to get web-format ("html format"), you should be able to get more out of this newsletter. Previous Newsletters
Getting a map on your GPS. Would you like a map on your GPS so that you can visualise summits, contours etc? Well, depending on whether you have the right sort of GPS and your willingness to do a bit of uploading, we may have the answer.
simon3 on GPS for Ireland, article, download.
Currently MV provides GPS information in the form of waypoints that indicate the summit positions of all of the mountains in our list. While better than nothing this still does not use the full potential of GPS units . Essentially these can show maps and points of interest. There is no commercial product for GPS units at present, however we are pleased to announce the results of various communi ... Click here

This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. a18nmk, abcdef, Ablair, acschofield, agrasshopper, agula, aineb, alaher, alant, altna, annwalsh, arturrrr, ashallb, a_j_halpin, bajimbo, barbella, bigballs, bitnl71, blahblah, bluebell, bmjmullan, bubbles, Carheens, cathalh, CelticWizard, chammer, chealy, chris353, chrisdelahunt, ChristinaWalking, ciar, clarkent, Clipperhealy, cmfx2, coljoe1, concorde, CuFaoil, cyclonite, cz7gdm, dannyboy1, darrenflan, darsta, DeirdreK, digger, dmhh, dominika23, domoslavice, dudla, EamonnMooney, eamonroche, eepo, eileentarrant, EmmanuellePene, fionamcgeady, frankie, frascati, gaiaforce, garreth_oneill, gavahern, georgehanratty, gijoe, Gp1981, Graham1956, grahamcumming, grasshopper1, gwkelbie, hellraiser, IanDoyle, Ian_Doyle, ibowcott, iomhar, JDxtra, jeancan, jimjimk, jmsbergin, jmurphyspain, johank, Johnjoes1, johntarrant, jon_NZ, joycetony, JWalsh, kelekris444, kevin123, kicha, ktbones, kulesz, lesleync, liz50, lynchobaby, maccann, mach, magma, magsflaherty, manter, markjustineabbie, marymontgomery, mattfield, MatthewBranch, mfoley, miaelen, MichaelHolland, michaelhoman, mickeymac, midlifecrisis, mikec16, miked, mikemendez, Mioule, misiur, monomies, MountainMover, Muttley, Nairb, nalevkav, nashmick, neilius81, nicola87, obriencarolann, PaddyF, parkman, pat7, patcarolan, paulmccabeart, pcurran, pdonegan, percylives, peteroh, PeterSmith, philb1, pt, pultogue, quincy99, RobFitzg, Rocrules, rossai, RTunni, Sam, sandstonesam, sarny, SeanM, sean_mccarthy, shanam11, shane135, sheeps, sjjanand, slievenamon, slummer, softsleeper, stepaside-bob, studionrc, supersnoek, swift, techplan, Tigger, tommieob, wiggy, WillHoey, withs, wojtaszka (160)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Bleck Cra (2), Colin Murphy (5), Jaak (1), Jakub (1), ahendroff (3), aido (1), bajimbo (1), bigballs (1), brenno (2), buny clare (1), chelman7 (1), csd (1), dbloke (5), djouce (1), donieg (3), enoonan (1), gerrym (5), jimgraham (5), kaybee (4), markjustineabbie (1), murphysw (4), myroundshoulders (1), padodes (3), pdtempan (2), pquinn572 (2), rmilne (1), simon3 (7), sinbadw (4), thisbliss (2), vikinghar (1), weedavie (1), willie-boy (2), zet (1) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: csd (1), simon3 (4)
There were comments on the following mountains Aghowle Upper, Agnew's Hill, Beenoskee, Benbrack, Benbulbin, Benduff, Benwiskin, Bessy Bell, Binn Bhán, Binn Chaonaigh, Black Hill, Bran Scultair, Brown's Hill, Carrauntoohil, Carrigalachan, Carrigroe, Croagh Patrick, Croaghan, Crockmain, Cuilcagh, Cush, Devilsbit Mountain, Faill an tSáis, Galtybeg, Galtymore, Gortagarry, Great Sugar Loaf, Keadeen Mtn, Kilduff Mountain, Knocklayd, Knockmealdown, Knockmoylan, Knocknafallia, Knocknagnauv, Lackabane, Lackawee, Lugnaquillia, Mamore Hill, Moanbane, Mullaghcleevaun, Musheramore, Nowen Hill SW Top, Raghtin More, Scarr, Seefin, Slievecushnabinnia, Stoney Top, Stradbally Mountain, The Big Gun, The Paps East, Torc Mountain and these walks were created Benduff Devilsbit Ridge, Cloon Horseshoe, Kelly's Lough Circuit and Lugnaquillia
Thanks to all 534 who have ever contributed (including summits, forums and routes)
The five who have contributed most to the site are simon3 (440), csd (223), jackill (147), Bleck Cra (131), gerrym (124).
Summary. MountainViews now has 2745 comments about 585 different mountains out of the total in our current full list (840). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 400m summits have been added is currently around 35% There's plenty (255) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service. Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a mountain rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Foilduff, Cnoc Onna, Hangmans Hill, Barraduff Mountain, Killaha Mountain, Tirkslieve, Croaghmeen, Croaghbrack, Shaking Rock, Cloghervaddy and some 10 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a mountain so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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