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Eponymously named member Peter Walker gave us this shot taken from a great viewpoint on Purple Mountain
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A leather-handed TV gardener's silken voice whispers over the airwaves on the assets of an ancient country demesne: therein an ingenu had broken up some hand-fashioned flagstones for a new parking lot. From beneath, had risen a stand of daffodils in an arid darkness where not only daffs shouldn't be, but life itself. A surprise they were, but nothing like the one that this particular breed had been extinct for a century - a green-fringed job that had once danced quadrilles in genteel ladies' drawing rooms.
" … Botanists scribbled, swampies revelled ….."
In 2001, the foetid pall of Foot and Mouth hung grey over the fields of neighbouring Britain - soon to be cleared of livestock, but of life ….? Meadows emerged in waves of scent and colour. Botanists scribbled, swampies revelled and gardeners prayed. The pleasant land, burned and beaten to the very bedrock…, re-born. Yesterday, I floated down through the bones of once lofty spruce and pine, reduced to the purpose they were planted - measured, stacked and labelled for work-surfaces the world over. I am no lover of monoculture - the zillion Sitka Spruce of my own childhood backyard were complicit in the death of a hundred loughs, a thousand streams and a billion fish - but there was a kind of melancholy in this demise and I consoled myself with snapshots of the once desolate blackness beneath their canopy: a dusty Hell all hardy hillwalkers have inhabited at one time or another. But as I blinked through the shafts of light breaching this stillness for the first time in decades, what did I see but bursts of green, the size of footballs. Dead acid dust and in its midst - not raging against the dying of that light, but a field, an acre of flowers; primroses, powder-pretty and completely perfect.

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Recent Contributions and News
Newcomer extols the subtle delights of Crocknalaragagh
If you have done the Muckish to Errigal walk (the Glover) you will have passed over this summit. Ah but did you notice it as a place in itself?
vikinghar on Na Leargacha
Of the seven sisters in the Derryveagh range Na Leargacha must be considered the saddest. For most walkers, myself included, Na Leargacha is often considered as the barrier on the main walk to the Aghla’s. A mere footnote in walking terms. And I would still think of it in the same way had I not climbed it in full sunshine and with new eyes. I walked Na Leargacha in early April 2008 when the ... Click here
NE of Lough Gartan
lies the summit of Leahanmore, an area of rough unfrequented Donegal walking. eflanaga has been exploring a number of these SE summits in the Derryveaghs.
eflanaga on An Liathin Mor
Climbed as part of circuit starting at Glendowan Beg and including Crockscallabagh, Moylenav, Meenabog Hill & Farscallop. Dropped steeply off Farscallop's eastern aspect into Glentack Burn's narrow valley before steady ascent up grassy slopes before final climb over rockier terrain to reach summit area in fading sunlight. As ever views are extensive and breathtaking. Descended via Meenaneagh Burn ... Click here
Just in case you thought access was solved.
Our occasional Scot contributor hit this piece of tourist gouging. It looks like you can route round it however.
weedavie on Access again
This is a bad news good news one. I don’t know why I ever go out of Connaught, but I did last week to West Cork. We walked the horseshoe from Tooth Mountain to Lackabane which was a treat, saw nobody and no sign of paths except where the ridge really forced a single route. Instead of doing the final top we dropped to the farm with the stone circle – incidentally noticing outside it a laminated s ... Click here
More to do near Croghan Kinsella
csd has performed his usual valuable service of telling us how to get up another less well known place. This particular one is valuable because it helps you make more of a day out of a walk up Croghan Kinsella which otherwise is a bit short.
csd on Annagh Hill
It doesn't seem possible to gain access to Annagh Hill from the east: numerous houses and their large gardens block your way. Instead, I tried an approach from the southwest. Parking at the start of the forest track at T07940 66897 (where there's plenty of space), I followed the track to the edge of the forest. It was then a simple matter of handrailing the forest all the way to the summit. The st ... Click here
Our youngest contributor has been branching out.
alex92 on Mourne Rock?!?
For those of you who like your music heavy, melodic, Celtic and Mourne orientated (what?), I present to you Circadian! The first (well probably) heavy rock band to base most of their writing on the Mourne Mountains. Silent Sentinel: Refers to the Watchers of Slieve Commedagh and probably the most radio-friendly. Twisted Path: Inspired by Altataggart folklore. Maid of the Mist: Based on t ... Click here
Loughsalt Mountain
vikinghar has written the first two contributions about this place. I seem to remember hearing that the Lough Salt is the deepest lake in Ireland. Comment welcome on that.
vikinghar on Loughsalt Mountain
Slieve Lough Salt was the very first mountain I climbed as an aspiring hill-walker. Me and a mate bought a book on walking in the Donegal mountains and chose Lough Salt as our first venture and, you guessed it, we were hooked from then on, so it has a special place in my heart. Lough Salt is a name that derives from the Irish/English mix of “Lough’s Alt”, meaning the high Loughs. It stands as t ... Click here
"Getting long-sighted doesn’t help either. You’re trying to navigate in a snow-squall. Gloves off, glasses on, map out. Frozen fingers trying to line up a compass." weedavie ruminates (well rues anyway) on the ageing process.
Old hardware
Galtymore fashion discussion
Can't say that I agree with this "I am reasonably inexperienced with hill walking but i found no problem going up places like Galteymore, croagh Patrick, Keeper hill etc in jeans .. " jeans are cotton, they get stiff and lose insulation when wet and they retain moisture for a long time. I was young and thick once too. (Ok, some say I am old and thick now.)
Luimni on Galtymore
Just a reply, if i can to Colin Murphy below. I find no problem with trainers and hoodies hillwalking. Hoodies are great as you can pop them up and down instead of carrying a hat. Trainers i find are great for scrambling as they give a spring in my step. I found it very handy tip toeing and jumping to avoid boggy patches and up those boggy ledges. I am reasonably inexperienced with hill walking bu ... Click here
Lower hill of the Reeks.
Well done by dbloke on describing this interesting looking outlier with vast cairn (does anyone know of a larger cairn?).
dbloke on Struicín
Poor Struicín (aka Strickeen: Either a "crested ridge" or "top of the bog" according to Seán Higgisson in his books A Walker's Guide to Killarney and Hillwalker's Guide to Carrauntoohil). Even the fine outstanding members of Mountain Views have yet to find it worthy of comment - probably due to the aforementioned bog - and likely pass it by on their charge up Cnoc an Bhráca and off across the ridg ... Click here
Walkers Association: Challenge Walks Calendar.
This is becoming a good year for challenge walks. As well as the regulars, some new ones have been announced such as the Moyle Challenge and the Clare Burren Marathon Challenge. The Wayfarers are organising a walk in July in Wicklow. There's a problem however with the 12 Bens but the alternative looks very interesting.
Challenge Walks Calendar
Newcomer at the Border
donieg on Cuilcagh
Climbed Benbeg and Cuilcagh yesterday 29.04.2008. Weather was fine with very good visability, this is an ideal medium effort walk for walkers who have about 3.5 -4hrs to spare. I parked my vehicle at H11960 24491 in the townland of Altachullion Lower in the Bellavally Gap. There is a gate at this point (not locked) with a gravel track leading up to a telecommunications mast at H12102 25104. It is ... Click here
Sorry if I didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


Keadeen Circuit.
Some useful research here on ways up Keadeen and Carrig in the Wicklow/Dublin area. padodes on Keadeen Circuit
Overview Keadeen is a majestic outlier of the Wicklow massif. If you approach it from the north, coming from Donard, it stands out against the skyline and its sharper contour is already an indication that it is made of sterner stuff than many of the rounded granite tops to the east.   Climb to Keadeen A good place to begin the climb is from the car park in front of the Dwyer-McAll ... Click here

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Getting a map on your GPS. Would you like a map on your GPS so that you can visualise summits, contours etc? Well, depending on whether you have the right sort of GPS and your willingness to do a bit of uploading, we may have the answer.
simon3 on GPS for Ireland, article, download.
Currently MV provides GPS information in the form of waypoints that indicate the summit positions of all of the mountains in our list. While better than nothing this still does not use the full potential of GPS units . Essentially these can show maps and points of interest. There is no commercial product for GPS units at present, however we are pleased to announce the results of various communi ... Click here

This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. ActiveFamily, adrian6970, afrile, agnieszak, aidan1, alanbrady, alibo, almighty101, ambyrne2, andrewt, annemac7, Anthony_Brown, AshleyGlover, atl4ntys, averagejoe, Axel123, bcman, bellb, benny, BigRaff, Billyfink, blath, blaze96, BogMeadow, brady, bshawrusholme, Buckity, Butler, caracraig, carol_ann, carol_ann99, CathyA, chefkelly331, Cliffbutler, columreilly, craigolsen, crampons, crice, cubi6, Cu_Faoil_beag, dan_loughridge, davebf, davedunne, daveforsythe, davelindsay, dcurrivan, deaser, Denise, Derekmckey, DonalLynch, ei8fdb, Eily-not, ElaineComerford, eme290, eugenesheilds, failure, failures, faraway, feelyne, fitzer, galmor, Garrett-k, gdunne1, gerry777, Gerrylaw, gerryponeill, glamracket, grizzly, harska, helenbarden, HughEvans, hugo, iancarey, irelandw, JaggersandJagger, jamesconnolly, jamieheath, jamorris, jc, JeffMiller, jilviin, jkh, jnj, Jody_perdi, johnbreh, johnmcgregor, johnnyfitz, john_molgaard, josvanderlinden, Juanalore, juneoc, jww, kapski, karldwyer, kawallace, kazeczka, kevinm, Kevski, kilroyw, kiniasia, Kisfiu, lanzaspud, larry, ljg_307, lornaryan, Luimni, macste, markhamw, mark_dunlop_4, marlaw, marlid, MartinLucey, maryinperu, maxspinone, mcenoonan, mdagen, meentinadeasch, mgclon, MikeHunt, MikeT, minden, MJane, modowd, molly007, mullaghasher, MurielH, netdrum, npatterson, nupat, nusher, october29, Odyssey, pack65, patchrick, paulromanvaas, pcoleman, phaedruswolf, Pigeon-Top, pmcdermott, podge, Prius, radovanhoracek, Ray2840, rbrown79, renovator, rhpettigrew, riskwilltest, rmbkennedy, RonaK79, Ronocman, rpf74, schalom52, schlummer, seafen, seandubh, sebawei, shanemcc, sheridanniall, shivers44, shockspray, SilvaLining, simongdoran, snigs, social, sparol, stujbro85, swampfox, szaletel, tadpole, Tayto, terryd, timhogg, timmy83, timo, tk, tmaher33, tomasfitzgerald, tomgwhite, tommyclarke, trentV, Up-and-down, vernf, vulpes, warren, waynef23, weiss, willie-boy, wilwal, Yvonne, zayrah, zero, zmb, Zoren1982, zuzu (194)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Bleck Cra (1), CaptainVertigo (1), Colin Murphy (2), Donall MacG (1), Jimmy barry (1), Luimni (1), Patsy (1), Peter Walker (4), ROS (1), ahendroff (3), aidand (1), alex92 (1), csd (2), david bourke (1), davidfitzgerald (2), dbloke (2), djouce (1), donieg (2), eflanaga (3), enoonan (3), gerrym (1), jlk (1), kaybee (2), mickc (3), padodes (6), paulromanvaas (1), pdcat (1), peterturner (5), sbender (1), simon3 (3), sligobay (1), spiderman (1), vikinghar (4), weedavie (1) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: csd (2), peterturner (2)
There were comments on the following mountains An Liathin Mor, Annagh Hill, Ardloughnabrackbaddy, Ballincurra Hill, Ballycurragh Hill, Ben Gorm, Binn Doire Chláir, Brockagh Mountain SE Top, Carron Mountain, Cooneen Hill, Corcóg, Corraun Hill East Top, Cove Mtn, Croagh Patrick, Croaghanmoira, Croaghaun, Cruach Mhín an Neanta, Cuilcagh, Cushbawn, Devilsmother, Djouce Mtn, Farscallop, Galtymore, Hungry Hill, Keeper Hill, Knockadigeen Hill, Knockboy, Knockeenatoung, Little Carron, Loughsalt Mountain, Lugnagun, Lugnaquillia, Moylenanav, Mullaghanattin, Na Leargacha, Purple Mountain, Ring Hill, Shehy Mountain, Slieve Anierin, Slieve Carr, Struicín, Tomaneena, Tomies Mountain, Tonelagee and these walks were created (none in period)
Thanks to all 526 who have ever contributed (including summits, forums and routes)
The five who have contributed most to the site are simon3 (431), csd (222), jackill (147), Bleck Cra (129), gerrym (121).
Summary. MountainViews now has 2689 comments about 577 different mountains out of the total in our current full list (840). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 400m summits have been added is currently around 35% There's plenty (263) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service. Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a mountain rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Foilduff, Cnoc Onna, Hangmans Hill, Barraduff Mountain, Killaha Mountain, Tirkslieve, Croaghmeen, Croaghbrack, Shaking Rock, Cloghervaddy and some 11 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a mountain so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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