January 2008 newsletter from MountainViews.ie
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/mv/index.php?user=guestuser&tp=921Rn3F7LcY4g'center'> Coomnahorna from the Dromtine ridge.
Go past the Reeks, past Mullaghannatin and on down Iveragh and you come to one of the roughest, most interesting mountain areas in Ireland. Further you will find Coomcallee but before this, Coomnahorna over a lake. Just look at that rough grain to the land given to it by the weathering of the layered sedimentary rocks.
The picture was taken from the Dromtine ridge, one of two great ridges in the area, the other being An Bhinn Láir, the middle peak that sits between two lakes.


Have you made your New Year's resolution? The one that goes "I promise to walk faster, longer, harder …..". Maybe you think because the dark gods are old, they are also deaf. They are not. Your first effort at a jaunt after Christmas will have them in a convulsion of giggles, fit to shake the world. You will know this to be true because the earth will quiver under your pale feet, the trees will weave uncontrollably before your bleary eyes and the sky will advance and retreat on a scale commensurate with the Grand old Duke of York It seems hillwalking gets it hardest when it comes to picking up the post-Christmas pieces. Is this because hillwalkers have an inordinate appetitite for the pre-Christmas pieces? After a month of preparing for obscene consumption followed by a week of same, I myself set off to clear the cobwebs and the arteries, to find it a challenge getting out of the car park, let alone ascend the first terrifying peak.
" … faster, longer, harder ….."
Only after two hours of remonstrating with an contrary turkey, did I burn off enough of the poisons to tolerate the rest of the day. " … faster, longer, harder ….." - not a chance. Is there a thing about New Year's resolutions, that they are there to be broken? If so, what about we use this immunity to its fullest and propose the following. "I resolve to do all the Scottish Munros." Nope. "I resolve to complete all the Irish and British challenge walks." Nope. "I resolve to do the 3 peaks, 4 peaks, 5 peaks ….." Nope, nope, nope. Before we resolve to conquer the world, let us try the one and hardest resolution of all - to accept the wonderful, beautiful challenge, that simply is oul Ireland.

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Recent Contributions and News
Memorials on the hills
In mid December, volsung touched on an interesting point to do with memorials on the hills wondering if the hills could become like Roselawn (A Cemetery and Crematorium in Belfast - I know only too well). Certainly I can remember seeing some particularly intrusive memorials such as one on Minaun (Achill/ Corraun area) stuck prominently in the view. On another occasion I remember seeing a floating brown plastic urn of ashes caught on some vegetation in the Glenealo valley (Wicklow/ Dublin). The urn even had a name attached to it. Would the deceased really have wanted this - leave aside the rest of us?
This is not an Irish only issue of course. Have a look at this Mountaineering Council of Scotland page which discusses the issue. The MCoS issued a statement opposing the proliferation as an inappropriate development.
Now after Christmas I think this is a topic that would merit further discussion.
volsung on Memorials
Walking in the Mournes these days I come across more and more memorials to dead people. On Slieve Bearnagh for instance there is a stone commemorating 'Judith aged 27' Further down the Trassey track another reminds us of a young chap of 14 years. On top of Donard there is another and I believe one on Commedagh. While I understand people's wish to commemorate their loved ones and their love of the ... Click here
Walking Manners
weedavie, Scotsman and occasional Irish summitteer and MV raconteur, describes his impressions of mountain etiquette in this article which appears in the new Walkers Association of Ireland site. Amusing read.
Click here: Walking Manners
Walkers Association of Ireland
The Walkers Association, a new umbrella group for walkers and hillwalkers in Ireland (well, Republic anyway) has moved on from their temporary website. The new site (Slogan Info, Groups, Forums) is structured to allow walkers and interest groups to self-organise. We mentioned the very successful GPS course they ran last month - it's an example of what the WAI is about.
Click here WAI Website
More interest near Slieve League
dino, unfortunately camera-less, gives us information and repair news about this relatively unfrequented place.
dino on Cnoc Ramhar
I climbed this one yesterday (3rd December 2007) from the car park at Bunglas. At this time of the year and with the weather in a less than perfect state I had the hill pretty much to myself. It was a challenging walk with the conditions and I didn't make it as far as the trig on Slieve League but I still had a very enjoyable 4 hour walk to the plateau above Kerringear. Due to the weather condi ... Click here
Sperrins south
eflanaga continues to describe several of the less well known parts of the Sperrins ignoring that begrudger who pronounced them "wet teabags".
eflanaga on Clogherny Top
Climbed as part of a Central Sperrins ridge walk which started at Barnes Gap carpark IH 55121 90470, taking in Mullaghbolig and Tornoge before Clogherny Top itself. Clogherny's summit is like many in the Sperrins, heather covered, flat and featureless. The actual top is difficult to discern but appears to be a few metres from the fence which runs from Mullaghbolig to the eastern end of Corratary H ... Click here
View from a "new" summit
There's a spot in Wicklow near the entrance to the road leading to Lough Dan, known to the local walkers as "Pier Gates". Now why it's called that isn't at all clear to me. Perhaps someone knows? Anyway about one K south of here is Sleamaine, one of the tops that appeared in our list when we reduced the minimum height to 400m. padodes amply demonstrates that you can get an interesting view of the cliffs of Fancy Mtn from there.
padodes on Sleamaine
Thanks pdtempan for the explanation of the word Sleamaine. It sounds convincing. In some documents referring to this place, I notice that two names are often linked together: "Slemaine (sic) or Ballinvalla". The photo shows a man-sized erratic sitting atop this rather featureless hill. Click here
More wee Antrim hills
gerrym writes an inviting description of Slemish, an isolated ex-volcano a bit south of the main bulk of the north Antrim hills. Has my vote for the best pic of the month.
gerrym on Slemish
Slemish is very accessible, a drive steeply uphill through narrow lanes hemmed in by dry stone walls brings a carpark and visitor facilities at the height of 240m (217057). There are a number of informative boards on the history of the mountain - notably its volcanic origin. Slemish is steep and rocky and stands apart from most of the other Antrim Hills in this respect, looking like it would be mo ... Click here
Sorry if I didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.

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Getting a map on your GPS. Would you like a map on your GPS so that you can visualise summits, contours etc? Well, depending on whether you have the right sort of GPS and your willingness to do a bit of uploading, we may have the answer.
simon3 on GPS for Ireland, article, download.
Currently MV provides GPS information in the form of waypoints that indicate the summit positions of all of the mountains in our list. While better than nothing this still does not use the full potential of GPS units . Essentially these can show maps and points of interest. There is no commercial product for GPS units at present, however we are pleased to announce the results of various communi ... Click here

This month.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. adam7643, akr, ameates, ann_gallagher, barrysheeh, bharhen, brendy, broken, brvhrt46, bunter, burley, bursa78, bursa78pl, cadam1, clonman, ColmGeraghty, cookiemonster, Cornerflag, czarny, DaveShiel, Davesimpson, davidrobb, diarmuid0000, dolphin, draiochts, duibh, d_sheridan, eeicrl, erinmore, fergalwalsh, fionaflynn, fionamorgan, flotterstone, gandalf, gbinashui, gerlawlor, germah, gkilgarriff, goochiecoo, grahamhackett, gtberker, helangen, huey, ianmccreath, ints_77, jeromegyves, jillsteer, joconnell, johnstrainor, Lar, loic, macker36, madgemcgrath1, margaretsweeney, mcgrave, michealocrualaoi, mmclo, moshe, MountainPaths, mournes, msweeney, neachtain, neill, NeillHogg, Nellyg, ngepalmer, niallgr, nozstar, odhran1111, optimumoptare, PaddyBlack, paulhally, pcarty, pfolan, philo, pmayplymouth, poisonheart33, prendergast, prodrift, pslat, rcahill, roamer, Ronaldo, rsmyth64, sglrally, shampoo, sheelaghmills, sheltie, sierrahiker, Sinead220673, SioraColl, skipper, slinnian, sodubhghaill, soreknees, stepux, swedishdave, tedge3, tippy, tlambay58, vivaldian, volkerstaab72, Wheelo, willie, xenaia (105)
Our contributors to all threads this month: Alex92 (3), Bleck Cra (2), Colin Murphy (2), NeillHogg (1), Nellyg (1), dhmiriam (2), dino (3), eflanaga (2), fingal (1), gerrym (1), jackill (3), padodes (4), pdtempan (1), simon3 (3), tgormley (1), volsung (2), weedavie (1) and Contributors to GPS information this month were: csd (3), eflanaga (2), jackill (5), simon3 (4)
There were comments on the following mountains Clogherny Top, Cnoc Ramhar, Croagh Patrick Far East Top, Gortnagara, Knocknagun, Mullaghbolig, Prince William's Seat, Seefin, Seefin N Top, Sleamaine, Slemish, Slieve Bearnagh North Tor, Slieve Binnian North Tor, Slieve Gallion NE Top, Spinans Hill SE Top and these walks were created (none in period)
Thanks to all 488 who have ever contributed
The five who have contributed most to the site are simon3 (417), csd (213), jackill (147), Bleck Cra (122), gerrym (116).
Summary. MountainViews now has 2552 comments about 551 different mountains out of the total in our current full list (840). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 400m summits have been added is currently around 35% There's plenty (289) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.

If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend.
If you hear of a problem area or route, write it up in MountainViews which does everyone a service. Report rubbish tipping in the Dublin/ Wicklow area - ring PURE 1850 365 121
If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a mountain rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: An Machaire, Foilduff, Croaghcarragh, Cnoc Onna, Hangmans Hill, Barraduff Mountain, Killaha Mountain, Tirkslieve, Cnoc Lios Uachtair, Croaghmeen and some 15 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a mountain so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.

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