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2010-10-21 10:38:39
ForumContext of comment:Forum Improvement and Events
Message:Hey guys, how are you doing? I love ur website and havent found better one for irish mts and hills yet. But what I really find confusing is the forum. I would love to see new Forum with topics like Events, Advices, Beware of....simple stuff like this....
Just to make the forum more visible, more comfortable, more convinient and to put more information which all of us will be able to add, update and comment.
What do you think?
Take care, all the best
Additional points:Yeah, I def can help testing new forum :-)wicklore
2010-10-05 00:18:51
Picture: Register hidden in green bag (Contract pics) Re: Mountaintop Register systemContext of comment:Re Dessie1's suggestion for a register on top of summits:
Message:Hi Dessie1. In relation to your idea to have some type of register on top of summits; I was on Temple Hill in the Galtees last week and there was a piece of wood sticking out of the cairn with a message on it saying “sign the book” with an arrow pointing down. I rummaged around and found a plastic bag in a recess near the base of the cairn. In the plastic bag was a metal tin, with another plastic bag inside. And another plastic bag inside that! I eventually found a decent diary, with a page available for each day. Anyone who wanted to sign the book just found the current day and filled it in with the time and a message. There were several other entries in it for that very day (Sunday 26th September). I added in my own piece and mentioned MountainViews too. It was interesting to see that so many others had been up before me that day as I had seen no one else in my few hours walking. But I don’t know what the register was for, who owns it, or what they will do with the information within.
There are a few awkward questions to be considered when proposing a national mountaintop register system. Let me throw them out and we can see what people think.
1 Who would put registers on top of the mountains and hills – 1055 summits currently listed on MountainViews!
2 What would we do with the registers?
3 Where would we site the registers on the hundreds of summits with no cairns, trees, or any type of cover? (example many of the Slieve Blooms or Wicklow hills are featureless bog with not a stone in sight!)
4 How do we get registers onto the generally inaccessible summits such as An Tiaracht and Puffin Island?
5 Would the registers be an accurate reflection of all those who climbed the hill as many wouldn’t sign, especially in terrible weather, or as soon as the pen runs dry (or runs away)?
6 This being Ireland, the registers probably wouldn’t last long before they’re stolen, vandalised or blown away. How do we manage this?
I think the idea of having a way for people to log having climbed a hill and having the opportunity to write about it is exactly what MountainViews offers. And unlike a paper book on the summit, MountainViews won’t get ruined by Irish weather or vandals!Dessie1
2010-10-03 20:36:57
RE:Mountain start points already startedContext of comment:Thanks Wicklore for the reply , I have come across the short summary.Also on the second point I raised what are your thoughts?wicklore
2010-10-02 23:48:28
Mountain start points already startedContext of comment:Response to Dessie1's query
Message:Dessie1 your suggestion that MountainViews could provide GPS coordinates for suggested start points for climbing Irish hills and mountains is excellent. I’m glad to inform you that MountainViews has already been providing this for several months now!
Above the general comments for any hill or mountain listed, there is a brief ‘Short Summary’ feature. This Short Summary is designed to be like a brief, factual Wikipedia type entry where any member with over 200 contribution points can add suggested start points for a hill, warn of access issues or give other relevant information. It is not like a general comment where people can wax lyrical or describe routes in detail. It is designed to be snappy, give basic facts and be a quick reference guide. It means browsers won’t have to wade through pages of posts to gather the basic data they want. The Short Summary will always be instantly accessible at the top of the page above the general comments on that hill or mountain. Only MV members with over 200 contribution points can write short summaries as they need to be written by people who have built up experience of contributing to MV. (MountainViews award points to members for any contribution they make, from writing pieces, uploading gps coordinates etc)
Eligible members are invited to write Short Summaries for the hills they are familiar with. And like Wikipedia, eligible members can edit or add to the Short Summaries others have already written. This is important as it will ensure Short Summaries are kept accurate and informative. It is the only place on MountainViews that eligible members can alter another’s post, so make use of it! (note – members with less than 200 contribution points wont see any option to write a Short Summary)
But here is the rub – there are currently 1055 summits listed on MountainViews. The Short Summary feature was designed and opened up by Simon a couple of months ago. All eligible members were invited to begin writing Summaries, but so far only about 120 summits have Summaries written. (Jackill writing the vast majority, and myself and a couple of others writing a few dozen) This means that about 935 summits still have blank Short Summaries sections on. We need more members to chip in! They can be one liners or just a paragraph. As long as they provide relevant data. Check out Castle Hill, Caherbla, Seahan or Ballycumber Hill for typical examples of what a summary looks like.
I enjoy writing the longer route descriptions and sharing my experiences in the hills, but I also see the value in what Simon is trying to achieve with this Short Summary feature. Perhaps it just needs to be promoted more vigourously, as I have seen some members mistakenly writing their general comments in the Short Summary section!Dessie1
2010-10-02 13:51:05
Mountain start pointsContext of comment:Would it be a good idea to have a page with suggested start points (GPS+ OS) for climbing mountains?
Also what would be involved with starting a mountain register type of thing that would be left on summits and signed by people who have climbed.simon3
2010-09-07 11:08:06
Site outage.Context of comment:Apologies. The website was not functioning from around 22:30 yesterday to 09:00 or so today. Hosting problems.Conor74
2010-08-09 13:23:56
Ah, 100m prominence on the 100 highest list..Context of comment:I guess that's what was keeping a lot of the usual suspects off my list.
Thanks for that.simon3
2010-08-09 12:56:22
Re The '100 highest' in the personal logContext of comment:Issue of order and summits apparently missing.
Message:Conor74.
orderUsually when you look at the 100 Highest they are sorted in descending order of height initially. You can change the sort order by clicking on the heading. For example if you click on "Summit" they will appear in alphabetical order. If there's some error in this, let me know since I was making some changes in this area over the weekend.
Summits apparently missing Yes, this is a bit of a perennial. It all depends on what criterion you choose for deciding something is an independent summit and what MV uses is prominence or the drop from the summit to a col leading to higher ground.
MountainViews has 100 Highest with 100m prominence.
Using this prominence means that important areas such as the Bluestack and Cuilcagh are included.
If you use a list with say a 50m prominence then some high summits will appear such as Caher but so will relatively smaller bumps like Greenane, Knocknapeasta or Slieve Binnian North Top. Cuilcagh and the Bluestacks will vanish.
Additional points:There is no absolute or right method of inclusion, but we think that 100 Highest with 100m prominence is simple and only includes very definite summits.
You can experiment with lists at Lists & Logs | Listing Programs | Simple Irish Listings which allows you to try various possibilities.Conor74
2010-08-09 11:18:59
The '100 highest' in the personal log...Context of comment:...doesn't seem to list the 100 highest...
Message:I'm sure this has been said before, and I seem to remember seeing it here somewhere, but when you click on this link it doesn't show the highest in the usual order but seems to omit many peaks. I thought initially that it was the highest in each range, but the top 2 are both in the Reeks, and Brandon and Brandon Peak are both in the top 10. I suspect this has been explained before, so sorry to bring it up again. If one wanted to see how many of the actual top 100 they had done, how would they go about this?Conor74
2010-08-02 21:30:43
After Knockeirky, 2 more in the Cahas?Context of comment:Sorry to sound like a pain and I'm not looking for errors or omissions, but did the Cumeengeera Circuity today. North of Tooth Mountain there are 2 peaks marked as being 513m, they seem to share a common contour line with Tooth Mountain itself that seems to be the 480m line. The name 'Knocknaveacal' appears above them on the online OSI viewer map (the wind report one which shows contour lines) - but given that this is presumably the Irish for Tooth Mountain it may not denote a distinct peak, or 2. Given the popularity of the route I presume these were checked and discounted, and may have been even raised by other mv members.
On the ground, they both actually look far more prominent than Knockeirky, which incidentally it is included must surely get an award as one of the least prominent 'looking' peaks anywhere! Was on it last Saturday and it's very hard to perceive, though for some strange reason it has a cairn that dwarfs those on its much more distinctive neighbours Knockowen and Cusnaficulla.
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