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simon3
2017-09-29 09:57:44
Bloop, beep, plonk.
Bleck Cra: Delighted to hear you have visited your old locality and indeed your past. And delighted to read such an eloquent posting on being temporally challenged in hillwalking. Folks we can all also learn some wisdom from BleckCra's last post about coming off a walk:

"I mean the bit when we start going home; the bracken and the brown hill cattle; the patchwork fields below, the smell of trees and a stream - and coming away from the best, the very best show on earth."

Poetic metaphor for life. We oldies have to stick together don't we?

But to the matter at hand. You have revisited our page for Merrick in the Carrick & Galloway area of Scotland. You told us in Jan 2014 you had climbed it and now you are wondering why we don't call it a Corbett. Part of your fond remembering has been wrenched from you so requiring MountainViews be 'disabused' and generally struck with the usual whip of poetic license.

Well the trouble with lists is that there can be too much of a good thing. Hill Bagging who is a fraternal website say that Merrick should be considered a "Marilyn, Hump, Simm, Corbett, Donald, Historic County Top, Current County/UA Top, Administrative County Top, Trail 100". Does that information add much to the typical user on the island of Ireland?

Not convinced? Take a look at http://www.haroldstreet.org.uk/waypoints/ which contains a list of lists. EIGHTY SIX (86) of them, with new ones being added quite often. They include the main lists of Britain and Ireland. (Even some that MountainViews popularise such as the Arderins but a huge range of British lists.) The take-home? We have to choose.

MountainViews is a website for hillwalkers on the island of Ireland. Most of our content and most of our members come from Ireland. It is natural that we concentrate on where we live and walk. However we are delighted to include a page on most summits from the neighboring island and of course we publish dozens of shared tracks from places as far flung as the Lake District, the Pyrenees, South America etc.

We promote various Irish lists of which the main ones are the Arderins, the Vandeleur-Lynams, the County Highpoints, the Local 100 etc with new ones such as the Irish Islands. It's a family of lists that people can start at any level and move to further levels as they visit more places. As for Britain we thought it appropriate to include a modest selection of mostly metric lists: the Munros, the Marilyns, the 600s and the 500s as well as an all Britain list. Anyone visiting Britain from Ireland north or south should find a summit page or perhaps a shared track for hills near where they visit.

If there really was demand for more, sure, we would consider it but generally we want to maintain a relatively small number of lists that fit together. We do make changes from time to time in our lists. Last month we slightly altered the formula for the 100 Local. Shortly we will be formally introducing the Irish Islands with a mechanism by which users can indicate separately whether they have visited the island or visited it's highpoint.

So, less whipping please. And more reflection and not just in the mirror of years gone by lyrical as that was.

**** Definition
Corbetts - Scottish hills between 2500 and 2999 feet high with a drop of at least 500 feet

**** 'Kircudbrighshire and not as MountainViews spell it' -- we are using the list and names from database of British and Irish hills. Take it up with them.
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