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tamjk
2015-09-03 21:07:05
Safest We Have, If Not Totally Safe.
** Who in OSI told you we are not interested in their 1:25 000 mapping? Also why did you call the Devils Ladder a safe route? **

You better calm down a bit and read my messages more carefully ! (I suppose you had a hard week at a real job.)
i never said that anyone in OSI said that MV was not interested in 1:25,000 maps.
In fact, I hardly knew of MV at that time.
Perhaps you misread my comments on OSI being unable to determine a single authority on mountaineering who was prepared to advise on safe routes to summits on those new maps.

I call the Devil's Ladder a safe route since the other Carrauntuohill routes that I've done or observed closely are much more dangerous. Heavenly Gates is vertiginous. Likewise with final stage of Br O'Shea's route, the last part where one has to scramble up a steepish ridge with worrying drops on both sides. Caher and Beenkeeragh also have steep falls on one or both sides and winds can buffet a bit there. Coimín na Péiste has steep falls and awkward rock surmounts in a couple of places.

I know the Ladder demands a bit of grunt but it's paceable given the big boulders you can rest against.
As I already said, the loose stones need clearing and this is a bit of a project. (Funny no one comments on that suggestion.)

The Ladder is not fully safe.
But it's the safest of the routes that I know on our highest mountain and I think it's the one to properly sort out for tourist trails.
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