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wicklore
2015-09-03 18:39:50
Many, many issues (Part 3)
5. MountainViews disallows dissent? – what evidence for this? Who has been blocked? People can say pretty much what they want within reasonable rules of decency on MountainViews. Perhaps the problem is that they don’t always get a string of responses supporting them or debating with them. Maybe people just disagree or don’t care enough to respond. That’s their right. We don’t block dissenters. Some famous MountainViews dissenters spring to mind and they have an open door whenever they want to take another shot at us for the failings in our entirely voluntary effort. In fact we have a continuous open invitation for more members to get involved in the myriad of tasks and projects we are involved in. We need the help, and there is a lot of work to be done.

6. Walking guides: I think the only place to get the kind of route guide tamjk is looking for is in the many walking guides available in book form. They cover all major upland areas and describe routes in detail. They also provide a guide to what type of walk each route is, and whether it is suitable for beginners, experienced walkers only etc. Every one will have a warning that hillwalking is only to be undertaken by those who are able. The reality is that some mountains are simply beyond people’s ability. I know, because many are beyond my ability unless I go with more experienced friends.

Tamjk, the uplands are not suitable for anyone who is not prepared and able. There is hazard and danger, and wonderful rewards for those who know what they are doing. Inexperienced walkers should not be up there. I heard before that 90% of call outs for Wicklow Mountain Rescue are for inexperienced ‘day trippers’. That speaks for itself – Wicklow has lots of detailed 1:25 000 maps available, and it doesn’t prevent endless call outs for Mountain Rescue. The best maps in the world won’t help if you can’t read them. Or wear runners and jeans. Or are surprised to find that some hills are very steep. Or that some mountains have cliffs. Or that you are not fit enough for the undertaking. Or that you are afraid of heights. Or that phone coverage is patchy or non-existent. I don’t know how many people I’ve bailed out over the years on the mountains – the common thread among them being ‘I bit off more than I could chew’.

Now before the debate ranges too far away, can we go back to some statements already made, that need your clarification. Who in OSI told you we are not interested in their 1:25 000 mapping? Also why did you call the Devils Ladder a safe route?
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Fothair na Manach
Fergalo 2 hours ago.
Fothair na Manach is one of the remotest, most spectacular & magical sites in Ireland and barely accessible. It lies jus walk, Len: 13.8km, Climb: 1118m, Area: Brandon Group (Ireland)

  
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Carran South Top: An uninspiring summit
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 18 hours ago.
The shortest approach to Carran S top is from Bealick. Starting from Gougane Barra forest park W070 653 C. Follow trail to it's high point then head North to Bealick then follow a fence to Carran ...

  
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No Green Card Required!
liz50 a day ago.
With the likely postponement of Brexit until June at the earliest a Green Card will not be required to attend the Mountainviews members and friends meetup walk in the Mournes on Saturday 6th April...

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Carran: Several approachs
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 18 hours ago.
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An Cheathrú Lair: Highest Point is the West Quarter.89m ?
ucampbell 23 hours ago.
The way marked trail maps provided on the Island lead you to the Cliffs. However I wanted to reach the highest point and this was easily done in the time allowed before getting the afternoon ferry...

  
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Lackagh Mountain: Lackagh or Boleybrack?
TommyV a day ago.
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An Starraicin
Fergalo a day ago.
An Starraicin overlooking lockadun starting at the Lockadun start point Cloghane walk, Len: 9.0km, Climb: 533m, Area: An Starraic?n, Central Dingle (Ireland) An...

  
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Carrane Hill: Navy Seals only for this approach
TommyV a day ago.
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Curlew Mountains: The Blair Witch Project
TommyV a day ago.
It's hard to believe this has been visited by 19 members. paddyhillsbaggers description is about right. The first stage is a stumble over stumps and felled trees before entering the forest. I had ...

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Croaghmuckros: A great reward for a leisurely stroll
bertandally 2 days ago.
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Brandon point to Sas Creek to Araglen
Fergalo a day ago.
Brandon point to Sas Creek to Araglen returning to Brandon point be Teer bog road walk, Len: 16.2km, Climb: 554m, Area: Faill an tS?is, Brandon Group (Ireland) F...

  
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Carronadavderg: Very unremarkable.
TommyV 2 days ago.
Not much to add to the comments here except that there appears to be some maintenance work being carried out on the access road so there is a mound of gravel at the access gate so parking is a bit...


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