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tamjk
2015-09-03 13:25:56
Subjectivity & Objectivity
You may well adjudge the Devil's Ladder to be more unsafe than the eastern ascent to Mullaghanattin.

But I for one - and while I may be alone bar an odd foreigner on these pages, I'm not alone in this viewpoint generally - must strongly disagree.

Sure, the popularity of this route means that erosion happens. I wasn't ever there in winter but I suppose this gully become a stream for rain washing off the mountain -- which will cause further erosion.

I also accept that the bike helmet will not stop facial or non-head injuries by falling stones.

Caher Route - from what I see on the return path off the peak - has a narrow path with steep sides and gusty winds. I couldn't commend this to older people.

All of which has to point to the imperative need to establish a proper pathway up the Ladder that will be minimally affected by winter streams or erosion by climbers.
A nice gap year public works project for a volunteers under the leadership of some people experienced in climbing and path building, wouldn't you think ? . . .

@Aidand :

** Enlarging the map makes it much easier to read the contours, so you have a DIY 1:25,000 map at minimal cost.**

Of course it also enlarges at the same rate the various oversized names that have been placed obscuringly across those same peak contours . . .
This was how you did your preparations on the Saturday night before a climb in the 1980s & '90s ?
I'm picturing you trying to clearly match contour curves to heights as you did your laborious cross-sections along the climb path. A long evening's work, I'd say !

I see nothing pussy about getting proper maps.
Neither incidentally do most Western European states. 1:20,000 being the norm and no hang-ups about classifying routes and their difficulty level.
Won't do the OSI pension fund any harm either.
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