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Peter Walker
2015-09-03 11:46:37
Using the Safe word...
Hi Tam

Thank you for giving an example of a route that you think is safe.

Just so you know some context for my reply...I've been up Carrauntoohil three times, all on traverses of the Coomloughra Horseshoe. I have been down the Devil's Ladder as a finale to a traverse of the Eastern Reeks. I have not been up either the Heavenly Gates or Brother O'Shea routes. I have been hillwalking for over 30 years...feel free to check out my level of experience in the Summiteers list.

It's unfortunate that the Ladder became the 'Tourist Route' up Carrauntoohil. Never mind its aesthetics, it has considerable objective dangers. It's a great place for the inexperienced to turn an ankle (or worse) even when there's nobody else on it, and on a busy day the risk of stonefall is very real (probably of the sort where a helmet isn't going to do you a lot of good). Hence the following message from KMRT:

www.kerrymountainrescue.ie/routes/devils_ladder

The Caher Ridge is much safer, in my opinion. Also, I think the Devil's Ladder is much less 'safe' than the route you chose up Mullaghanattin.

I'm not meaning to be critical here. I am just suggesting that what is and isn't safe is so hugely subjective that it's no wonder nobody's queuing up to state a definitive answer to what's obviously a 'how long is a piece of string' question.
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Fergalo an hour ago.
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