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wicklore
2015-09-02 14:59:13
MV doesn't support 1:25 000 maps?
Hi tamjk. In your post re mapping (which I'll leave to mcrtchly and other mapping experts to answer) you also made the comment that:

"And, from what I hear at the OSI, no one from Mountain View or any other representative organization for climbing has pushed very much for their publication (1:25 000 maps) despite the obvious advantages"

This came as a severe shock to me because I must therefore have entirely dreamed about helping to represent MountainViews at various OSI consultations which we were specifically invited to, where we discussed their 1:25 000 maps in detail, proposed new areas for 1:25 000 mapping and reviewed the new 1:25 000 maps as they went through production. We recommended areas for improvement/ inclusion and pushed for better quality mapping with more accurate features, such as contour lines, forest tracks, fences, place names etc. When I say we attended consultations, there were perhaps three organisations in attendance, as invited by OSI. If you have a contact in OSI who is telling you we are not pushing for their publication they are completely wrong as we have played an important role in advising and supporting the publication of 1:25 000 maps. Our main criteria is that they should be a true and accurate reflection of what is on the ground. If there is any doubt about our importance to OSI just look for the MountainViews logo on the back of the OSI 1:25 00 maps. Please tell your contact at OSI that we are puzzled by their views and would like further information.

The issues you raise in your various posts are very interesting and need debate, but it doesn't help when wrong facts are thrown in. For example MountainViews is not a representative body for climbing. That job (and government funding) goes to Mountaineering Ireland, who have also liaised with OSI on their mapping.

Tamjk, one of the purposes of MountainViews is to give members the opportunity to write, (subjectively) about their experience in the hills and mountains. We also have a Short Summary section which aims to provide short, factual data such as parking places, landmarks etc. I have always found that I am different from every other walker, and that what they find easy I find hard, what takes them 1 hour takes me two, what they say is Ďa bit of a climbí is a daunting scramble for me. Iíve turned back on several occasions as I donít have the energy, the nerve or the gear to go on. But on other occasions Iíve done routes that others think are a bit crazy Ė my forest-bashing exploits are well documented in my summit comments!

The point Iím making is that each to his/her own ability Ė the beauty of this site is that it allows people express their experience in the hills, but that it must be filtered through the expertise that person has. Conor74, for example, is an athlete who engages in marathons and mountain running, so when I see him write that he can complete Mullaghanattin in a few hours, one look at the map, the contours and terrain tells me it will take me several more hours. What we need is more ordinary Joe Soaps writing about their experiences to give a broader view of a summitsí challenge, but as a voluntary community website itís up to individuals to make that effort.

Finally, you asked in a previous post how to add a comment to this Motley Views Forum? Ė go into Motley Views and scroll down to the bottom of the comments for that page. There is a box that says ĎAdd to Generalí. Click on that and youíll be able to add a comment.
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