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BleckCra
2013-07-10 21:41:48
STICKS AND STONES OR NAMES?
I should like to invite the erudite and personable Paul Tempan to revisit his translations from the Irish, in regard to mountain names on this website - perhaps even just for his own interest. After all, we have lumps of granite and shale measured to within a nano millimetre of their life on here. So what about the words too?
A successful novelist was being interviewed recently on BBC Radio 4. He was asked about writers editing their own work. His position was interesting. He advised the best way was to write the thing and walk away - next day it will seem like someone else's work so it is then much easier to edit. A bit wussy in my view but ........ So.
I have commented on Paul's unravelling of Slieve Bearnagh and the Meels before - and certainly would again but perhaps we could start with Arderin, the word a very shibolleth amongst the mountainviews elite. Paul advises us it means "The Height of Ireland". It doesn't. "The Height of Ireland" would be a English way of trying to deal with the thing - much like a cricketer teaching you how to use a hurley - there is much in common but much more that isn't.
In Irish "ard" means high but isolated from any further descriptive context, it means "the high thing/one" - this kind of construction is common out of English. Ard Mhacha, my own town - the High place/thing/stuff of Macha. In French "le bleu" the blue one/thing.
So Arderin means the high place/thing of Ireland - which incidentally can mean high as in important - Ard Fheis.
C'mon Paul, sharpen your pencil ........ and we can get to the ants in my pants about Meelmore next.
.... and Simon - everything on this site should be accurate - or ..., it isn't.


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