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march-fixer
2012-12-09 16:27:51
Why? - Answers on a postcard(s) please!
Question: You are a walker, or even a hill-walker. What do you know about mountaineering? Come on ... surely you have an opinion? (Well, on mature reflection - why should you?)

Question: You are browsing the magazine racks. Would you pick a mountaineering magazine as reading material? (Why not?)

Question: You are amongst a group of mountaineers. They try to inspire and inform you about walking/hill-walking. How would you feel about it? (Teaching your granny to suck eggs?)

Walking, hill-walking and mountaineering, derive from the same source: getting out on terra firma (or not so firma!). In a simplistic way, you could say that as you move higher from walking the fields and valleys, you start hill-walking and where that becomes overly difficult, then you start mountaineering. While walkers may not have done any mountaineering, conversely, mountaineers most likely have done hill-walking at some stage.

The Difficulty: walking and mountaineering occupy totally different media spheres. True mountaineering is an exotic and thrilling activity. Conversely, while walking does not provide the same adrenaline rush, it is no less enjoyable and exhilarating.

So, why in the name of all that is sane and reasonable, should Mountaineering Ireland (MI) be the organisation developing a national culture for walking in Ireland? Why even bother to venture outside their main sphere of interest? How many oars are in the water now? Too many cooks spoiling the broth? Why should MI bother to represent the escapades of walkers in their august Mountain Log (ML) magazine. The sheer buzz of mountaineering achievement enthrals a totally different audience than does the report of a spell binding new walking circuit. Do not expect to read a walking report any time soon, not matter how many may be submitted! Is ML going to be the official mouthpiece for Orienteering groups as well? Why not?

Summing up - there is too great a dichotomy between mountaineering and walking/hill-walking to be represented in the same media sphere (ML) or indeed by the same organisation (MI). Nature always finds its own level or peer group. Walkers like to proceed at their leisure, converse amongst their peer groups and post their reports where there is a reasonable probability that their effort (literary at least) will be seen and even appreciated.

Home Exercise: List how many organisations, formal, informal, governmental, non-governmental, funded, non-funded, etc., are involved in outdoor pursuits and I guarantee that you will be amazed, just before you are truly shocked. Shocked ... because notwithstanding all this extensive activity, such a large resource of funds and effort as has been, and is being expended, it does not seem to be having anything like the desired effect. Disjointed is a term that comes readily to mind!

(Don't shoot the messenger ... it might be more productive to dispatch some of the many cooks instead?)
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Summit Comment
Curra Hill: Cloudy Climb
andreos97 5 hours ago.
Fantastic walk, personally feel it's best starting your approach from Glenbeigh village and heading up through the forest (663 908) as it's quite well signposted. Once leaving the cover of the tre...

  
Track
Barnavave and Slieve Foye from Carlingford
simon3 16 hours ago.
This route mostly takes low gradient tracks to ascend to first Barnavave and then Slieve Foye.Ascending Barnavave from... walk, Len: 9.8km, Climb: 684m, Area: Barnavave, Cooley/Gullion (Ireland) Barn

  
Summit Summary
Barnavave: Double humped, easy to visit, good views.
Collaborative entry Last edit by: simon3 17 hours ago.
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Forum: General
Carol Morgan wins the women's Spine Race agai
IainT a day ago.
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Track
Nire Valley 22km loop walk through the Gap and to Crotty's and up to Fauscoum
Ulsterpooka a week ago.
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Knockastia: Hunting and shooting forbidden
ceadeile 4 days ago.
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When hill-walking meets (pre)history
David-Guenot 2 days ago.
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Summit Comment
Banagher Hill: Better road surface - easier access now
Pepe 4 days ago.
Followed the Bluestack Way sign mentioned by Aidy. The road is well surfaced now, though narrow. Drove a couple of kilometres NW (ignoring lower-down parking areas) to a small plantation on the le...

  
Track
Drumnalifferney North East Top
Aidy a week ago.
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The Ravens Rock: Crispy Morning Rock Hopping
Pepe 4 days ago.
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Bibliography
Exploring Ireland's Wild Atlantic Way by David Flanagan & Richard Creagh
aidand 4 days ago.
This book is definitely a keeper, a book Iíll hang on to knowing Iíll return to it again and again.I donít know who the genius is who came up with the concept of the Wild Atlantic Way (WAW) but th...

  
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January Club Walk - Na Sleibhte Hillwalking Club - Route 1 (of 5 options)
GSheehy a week ago.
" 'Twas like doing the Turks challenge after the Christmas dinner." walk, Len: 31.0km, Climb: 1800m, Area: Fauscoum, Comeragh Mountains (Ireland) F...


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