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march-fixer
2012-12-09 16:27:51
Why? - Answers on a postcard(s) please!
Question: You are a walker, or even a hill-walker. What do you know about mountaineering? Come on ... surely you have an opinion? (Well, on mature reflection - why should you?)

Question: You are browsing the magazine racks. Would you pick a mountaineering magazine as reading material? (Why not?)

Question: You are amongst a group of mountaineers. They try to inspire and inform you about walking/hill-walking. How would you feel about it? (Teaching your granny to suck eggs?)

Walking, hill-walking and mountaineering, derive from the same source: getting out on terra firma (or not so firma!). In a simplistic way, you could say that as you move higher from walking the fields and valleys, you start hill-walking and where that becomes overly difficult, then you start mountaineering. While walkers may not have done any mountaineering, conversely, mountaineers most likely have done hill-walking at some stage.

The Difficulty: walking and mountaineering occupy totally different media spheres. True mountaineering is an exotic and thrilling activity. Conversely, while walking does not provide the same adrenaline rush, it is no less enjoyable and exhilarating.

So, why in the name of all that is sane and reasonable, should Mountaineering Ireland (MI) be the organisation developing a national culture for walking in Ireland? Why even bother to venture outside their main sphere of interest? How many oars are in the water now? Too many cooks spoiling the broth? Why should MI bother to represent the escapades of walkers in their august Mountain Log (ML) magazine. The sheer buzz of mountaineering achievement enthrals a totally different audience than does the report of a spell binding new walking circuit. Do not expect to read a walking report any time soon, not matter how many may be submitted! Is ML going to be the official mouthpiece for Orienteering groups as well? Why not?

Summing up - there is too great a dichotomy between mountaineering and walking/hill-walking to be represented in the same media sphere (ML) or indeed by the same organisation (MI). Nature always finds its own level or peer group. Walkers like to proceed at their leisure, converse amongst their peer groups and post their reports where there is a reasonable probability that their effort (literary at least) will be seen and even appreciated.

Home Exercise: List how many organisations, formal, informal, governmental, non-governmental, funded, non-funded, etc., are involved in outdoor pursuits and I guarantee that you will be amazed, just before you are truly shocked. Shocked ... because notwithstanding all this extensive activity, such a large resource of funds and effort as has been, and is being expended, it does not seem to be having anything like the desired effect. Disjointed is a term that comes readily to mind!

(Don't shoot the messenger ... it might be more productive to dispatch some of the many cooks instead?)
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Crocknafarragh SE Top: Climb it, but include one or more "cousins"
Collaborative entry Last edit by: simon3 5 hours ago.
The way to Crocknafarragh SE Top can follow the full route up to Crocknafarragh with an additional 700m walk out to the lesser top or, part of the way up, by contouring up and around the S flanks ...

  
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Croughan ridge by going around Lough Acorrymore
simon3 6 hours ago.
Croughan ridge by going around Lough Acorrymore walk, Len: 7.8km, Climb: 595m, Area: Croaghaun SW Top, Achill/Corraun (Ireland)...

  
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eamonoc
eamonoc a day ago.
A lot of walking done and so much more to do, thank you Mountainviews for the inspiration

Summit Comment
Baurtregaum Far NE Top: Great views from a so-so mountain
Colin Murphy 15 hours ago.
The view over Tralee Bay at low tide from Baurtregaum Far NE Top had the appearance of the Amazon River delta!

  
Track
Scouting the start of the Galty Challenge.
jackill 12 hours ago.
walk, Len: 17.5km, Climb: 623m, Area: Slieveanard NE Top, Galty Mountains (Irel...

  
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Bunnacunneen South Top: Simple bag from nearby tops
Colin Murphy 16 hours ago.
For approach see entry for Bunnacunneen SE Top. From that grassy summit it is just over 1km across a gently rising slope to the NW and the South Top's equally grassy summit, which has marvellous p...

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molls gap loop walk
strangeweaver 3 days ago.
From the car park at molls gap follow the narrow country lane down to the pass between to stumpa duloigh and Knocklome... walk, Len: 17.6km, Climb: 985m, Area: Dunkerron Mountains (Ireland) Knocklome

  
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Bunnacunneen SE Top: Handy track
Collaborative entry Last edit by: Colin Murphy 16 hours ago.
Although there was a sign on the track at L973 570 forbidding trespassers, the farmer in the nearby farmhouse had no problem with us using the track, which curved up the hillside almost to the sum...

  
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Simple ascent of Minaun.
simon3 4 days ago.
An easy way up starting from the carpark. walk, Len: 3.6km, Climb: 121m, Area: Minaun, Achill/Corraun (Ireland) Minaun

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Caherbarnagh East Top: A Hidden Gem Discovered
Collaborative entry Last edit by: simon3 2 days ago.
Park off road next to gate at the saddle between Claragh Mountain and Curracahill W23626 87990. There's room for 3-4 cars to park safely. Climb gate and follow rough stone track keeping forest to ...

  
Track
Puglia: Circuit south of Otranto
Onzy 5 days ago.
walk, Len: 11.1km, Climb: 215m, Area: Italy, Apulia ()

  
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Corraun Hill: Views! what views?
Harry Goodman 2 days ago.
Climbed this hill on Wed. 12 Oct 2011. Our intention was to start from Belfarsad Bridge but the blanket of thick mist covering the Plateau made me opt for the simpler climb from Burnanioo Bridge s...


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