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march-fixer
2012-09-16 14:44:37
Re Keepin Ireland Clean
There seems to no end of views as to what constitutes '"an improvement" or "remedial action" to a mountain area/track. Some see it as making it safer and/or more accessible for all users while others see it as messing about with nature.

I am going to stick my neck out here with my possibly controversial view that a person should not enter areas which they are not capable of safely traversing. That is a Natural Law and it is a decision or value judgement that only they can answer honestly. There is no accounting for or alleviating stupidity.

If you want to "mess about" with things, then build a complete track to the summit or as scannerman mentions, someone might even wish to put in a cable car, so as not to interfere with the intervening landscape! That way everyone has safe and easy access and hopefully no one gets injured or lost?

Improving areas/tracks to the extent of putting in steps (except in very exceptional cases - with full consultation) is futile. Mountain Walking = rugged terrain walking = if you are not capable, then do not go there. There are so many other areas you can enjoy at your leisure and safety. Take the recent case of the lady who unfortunately injured her leg at Lower Lake Glendalough. How much more benign could the terrain there be and yet an injury was sustained? What more could be done in this area to avoid such a re-occurrence?

Improvements or remedial action to mountain areas/tracks should surely only be done to the extent of saving the area/track from further erosion - at ground level only. With all of our technical ability, surely it must be possible to stabilise the area/track without making it highly obvious that such action has been taken?
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Kate's to John's - Na Sléibhte Club Walk
GSheehy 19 hours ago.
When we set up the club we said it was all about the economics of supply and demand - if we supplied challenging walk... walk, Len: 24.9km, Climb: 2015m, Area: Tomies North Top, Purple Mountain (Irel

  
Track
Carrauntoohil via the 'Back Ladder' from the Bridia Valley
peter1 a day ago.
Park at a small turning place, just opposite The Stepping Stone / Cooky Monsters accommodation and cafe.The route fol... walk, Len: 11.5km, Climb: 1097m, Area: Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks (I

  
Summit Comment
Mweelrea: Coastal mountains
simon3 2 days ago.
Ben Bury and Mweelrea form an impressive sight from Clare Island.

Summit Comment
Caherbarnagh East Top: An unremarkable summit, worth the visit for the views.
David-Guenot 5 days ago.
The summit is unremarkable though easy to spot as it lies along the fence.

  
Summit Comment
Caherbarnagh East Top: An easy stroll from Caherbarnagh.
David-Guenot 5 days ago.
There is a gate to cross when coming down from the cairn at the NE end of the main Caherbarnagh ridge (I found it was actually easier to cross the fence just right of the gate). There is a faint t...

  
Summit Comment
Binn Bhriocáin: Long views of a stepped descent.
simon3 2 days ago.
Letterbreckaun can be seen from Clare island, around 33km away. It appears between Mweelrea and the high ground towards the Sheefrys.

Summit Comment
Caherbarnagh East Top: A worthwhile addition.
David-Guenot 5 days ago.
This summit is easily reached from the main Caherbarnagh ridge and seems easy enough to get to from Curracahill as well. If coming from Caherbarnagh, best is to cross the fence just before the col...

  
Summit Comment
The Paps East: Two shapely hills.
TommyV a week ago.
There is a forestry road in the Clydagh Valley with parking at W12955 83343. Following this road will lead you out onto the open mountain. From here it's a steep pull up to spot height 562 metres ...

  
Summit Comment
Caherbarnagh: A mini horseshoe
TommyV a week ago.
I mostly followed Aidands directions. There is now a sign on the road marking the path for the Dulhallow Way at beside the bungalow mentioned by Aidand, and several more going through the private ...

Track
Croghan Kinsella & Tops
Peter Walker a day ago.
walk, Len: 9.6km, Climb: 411m, Area: Croghan Kinsella, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland)...

  
Summit Comment
Musheramore: Follow the fence.
TommyV a week ago.
As mentioned in other comments the entrance to the Millstreet County Park is an ideal spot to approach Musheramore from. Over the stile across the road and simply hand rail the fence all the way t...

  
Summit Comment
Knockchree: A nice forest trail takes you up
Pepe a week ago.
Various scraps of metal litter the summit area: an old mast stay, plus various other bits and pieces. Perhaps they're the remnants of comms masts or maybe an old military watch station from back i...


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