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Harry Goodman
2012-07-23 21:03:58
A few thoughts on the summit bagging debate.
I tend to agree with Simon 3. If there is a cairn, and providing it stands on the highest point, then I feel it must be gained to climb that particular hill/mountain. Such a top would be Mangerton. In mist (as I know from experience) it could not be bagged without careful route finding. The summit cairn lies some considerable way in from the edge on a large flat summit plateau. Furthermore challenge walks, such as that commented on by wwwalker can often take a route over a mountain without actually going to the top. An example of this could be found in the days of the Mourne Wall Walk. Although ascents of Binnian, Bernagh and Commedagh were claimed the vast majority, if not indeed all (myself included), did not go to the actual high point of these mountains in course of the walk. The route by-passed Binnian top by some considerable distance, while on Bernagh none I suspect would have contemplated seeking out the summit requiring as it does a rock scramble not to be attempted in wet or windy conditions. Indeed in this regard walkers I know who have climbed Bernagh many times have never actually been to the high point. On Commedagh the top lies some 200m out across the plateau from the wall and during the MWW would not have been summited by the vast majority of walkers. To a lesser degree this also applies to the Seven Sevens Challenge Walk. While checkpoints are at the summit points of Binnian and Commedagh this is not possible in the case on Bernagh. Many walkers simply check in at the high saddle just below the summit tors and walk on. The case in my view is a simple one, you either go to the top are you do not. For many hillwalkers the debate is of no importance as they are unconcerned about reaching the "highest" point on a mountain walk and this is fine. However if you are a peak bagger then you must do exactly that and seek out and go to the highest point, although in Ireland the task will on occasion try your patience to the limit deciding which clump of peat on an unmarked hagged top is the highest point. As to the position on Great Skellig I have no specific view. If you travel out to it (and I hope to sometime) does a climb to the higest point permitted allow a tick on the MV list or more sensibly does it really matter?
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