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I have been watchi.. by kernowclimber   (Show all posts)
emp123
2011-03-03 22:29:42
Thhe Elephant in the Room
As a learner walker ,who normally consults the site for info posted by the more experienced, it is with some trepidation that I dare to comment on the recent vituperous exchange between Blek Cra and Maclimber .
I should have thought that environmental management, and the politics thereof, for “areas of outstanding beauty” was an important topic ,so am surprised that there appears to be a deafening silence on the subject. Perhaps most people are afraid of being impaled on the antlers of the rutting pair?
However , in the interests of discussion I shall continue on my foolhardy path and offer my , unlooked for, opinion.
I have read the article recommended by Maclimber and agree that some low key? maintenance within the Mournes is necessary ,to preserve the geology and the pleasure for future generations, but I also think that Blek Cra has a very valid point about consultation. The article contains very little about the history and processes of the project and I think that it is incumbent on public bodies ,even those as seemingly benign as MHT, to inform, explain and account for themselves when asked . It mentioned that local interest groups were consulted, so , out of interest I would like to ask who was consulted? ,when? The nature of the consultation? Was it extensive or a rubber stamp exercise ? (and yes I do know we live in a representative and not direct democracy)
The article also mentions ongoing projects. Are the details of these plans anywhere on public view? They might generate quite a lot of interest and allow for viewing/admiring/decrying/anticipating and even some positive PR with the general public if easily available.
I ask these questions in a spirit of inquiry because the difference of opinion has actually stimulated an interest in the politics of environmental management and sustainability for me . So I thank the protagonists for their interesting and entertaining posts . Life would be very boring, and perhaps dangerous, if we all meekly agreed with what our “betters” and “ the authorities” told us,--- or even with each other.
Peace to both
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