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simon3
2007-04-23 13:26:05
Re: 400m Mountain List
Jaak:

You're exaggerating. Listen .. sea level is rising at 3cm / decade so the number of 100m summits will not be anything like 25,873 summits long before you get halfway and will be even further down before you're dead.

What's the value of a list anyway? Really it's a suggested agenda to visit some interesting places. Not a purgatorial pilgrimage or an end in itself. Looking at Ireland and what makes sense for lists I'd say the 3000 footers (914m) don't make an interesting list. There aren't any north or west of Wicklow.

The 600s are reasonably interesting but for some people there's too many. The trouble with the 600s is that many interesting summits aren't included (for example the only quartzite mountain in Wicklow, the Sugarloaf). But if you include the 500s you get too many for most people. I only know of one person who has done them all. And so it goes.

So MountainViews is moving in the following direction .. we have introduced various new lists. MountainViews can use its database and also the huge amount of information that as a social-networking site we have gathered for these new lists.
The 750m list is a straight height based list for people to try. Currently this includes 76 summits, reasonably well distributed around the island.

Then we have the 100 Nearest. It does what it says on the tin. The list is personalised for the position you have given yourself (in Settings). The advantages are that it minimises your travel and helps you get to know your own part of the world.

We've introduced a 100 Best. This is based on the thousands of ratings people have put in for summits. The advantage is that it will bring you to the most interesting places in Ireland according to MV users and that could be very useful. It turns out that many of the highly rated places are in Connemara interestingly enough - there's quite a high consensus between different raters incidentally. A disadvantage we are working to minimise is that as further ratings come in this list will change.

We've also got the 600, 500 and 400m lists. You can customise these if you are visiting an area and get a rough map showing where they are. Useful for planning or to fill your life if you retire at 45.

We've included the 914m or 3000ft for old time sake though it doesn't make much sense.

Reviewing the various lists published for Ireland you can see a whole lot of UK imports such as Hewitts etc. The classification systems which are mostly non-metric don't seem to me to be entirely appropriate except the relative hills type listing. This is where you provide a list based on relative height or prominence. The summit has to have a drop on all sides of a given limit, often 150m.
In due course MV will introduce a list like this for Ireland. It'll have the MV look of course - with ratings, comments, name origins, photos.

So I hope you aren't quite so depressed Jaak. Lismacaffrey Hill looks interesting.
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