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simon3
2010-11-06 16:49:42
Placenames.
Barryd is quite correct regarding Coanty - it wasn't on the previous map. My apologies for mentioning it.
Assuming proper research I'm in favour of the sourcing and naming of places. MV has, through Paul Tempan's work, being doing this for years. However I think various cases can arise for which there needs to be discussion and preferably agreement.
One issue is confusion. In the 90's I wrote up the Maamturks. As a result of different initiatives a situation developed where there are two or three names for many of the summits. In the case for example of the highest point on the ridge there are three names: Barrslievenaroy, Binn idir an Dá Log and Ben Baun. You can see the list at http://www.simonstewart.ie/Turks/turkequiv.htm which shows part of the problem. The Harvey map issued later uses another selection of names. The official Logainm has a different Irish version for Barrslievenaroy to the Harvey map. Quite simply this is confusing. Depending on what map you use your route planning or even emergency call can be adversely affected.
While yes we do not want to see anyone's cultural heritage or scholarship ignored, the user's need for clarity and long term consistency also has to be respected.
Barryd mentions "the digital ages likes standardisation". Certainly the profusion of names throws up issues. For example, MountainViews provides GPS information for summits. For these we create a list of summits with a short name and their position which can be uploaded to a GPS. However the name has to be abbreviated to a 6 or 10 character identifier and there can only be one identifier per location. It makes for awkward or non-intuitive identifiers when there are two or more names and the official name as per Logainm is different to the OS name or different to common usage.
Barryd asks "who decides" - perhaps a start could be made with a wiki like approach where names can be put forward and discussed with sources.
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