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Couldn't agree mor.. by kernowclimber   (Show all posts)
Bleck Cra
2010-11-04 23:00:46
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barryd – I agree. What a place is called is what it is called by the people who live there. Nothing else.
In South West Scotland where I grew up, there was much on the map that was right but there was a lot we all knew that the map didn’t. Who was right? We were. Who was wrong? Absolutely everyone else.
I have lived in the North of Ireland for 16 years and not a day goes by that I hear a place, a spot, a corner get its local title. Find it on a map – not a mission. But it is there.
Don’t burn the map yet, but if you want to know, ask the boy in the labourer’s cottage or the lad with the yellow dog or the oul boy sitting on the wall. Not only will he tell you what it is called but he will pronounce it …. correctly.
The lummox Englishman lumbering around these provinces has chosen to retitle places according to his lazy pronunciation, so that last week when friends came North to meet me at what the he has called “Happy Valley”, no one local could direct them to it - because they called it something else.
Standardization? Absolutely not. Did the same tribe populated Ireland? No. Was the same language spoken coast to coast? No. Was the culture homogenous? No. Was experience the same in Dublin as it was in Donegal? Nope.
Here we have Meelmore and Meelbeg. Only a few Meels around Ireland, so when I know that many of the Scottish Munros and Corbetts are Meals I can also make a fair assumption the residents at their foot may well be kin to a Scottish tribe. And that folks is information – the most valuable commodity on the planet.
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Bealick: Between two counties
Wilderness an hour ago.
I approached this mountain from the North East ,coming from the Coomataggart mountains. When I got to the top I had to walk around for a few minutes to pinpoint the true summit; which I'm sure is...

  
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Nephin from the North....stunning views.
derkelly274 2 hours ago.
First time climbing Nephin for both myself and my friend. We decided to go at it from the North as it seemed like a more walk, Len: 5.3km, Climb: 644m, Area: Nephin, North Mayo (Ireland) Nephin

  
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Nephin: A looped climb from the North. Stunning views all around!
derkelly274 2 hours ago.
First time climbing Nephin for both myself and my friend. We decided to go at it from the North as it seemed like a more interesting prospect. There was access to the woods on the northern slope o...

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derkelly274 4 hours ago.
Enjoy climbing the odd hill. Hope to visit more and more.

  
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Knockshanahullion: Route Changes on Avondhu Way
Pepe 8 hours ago.
Approached from carpark above Bay Lough (B). There are new signs on the waymarked trail saying "Blackwater Way Please Note Route Changes". The waymark arrows on the markers look shiny and new, abo...

  
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Tooreenbaha: Early on a sunny April morning
peter1 13 hours ago.
Tooreenbaha, above the Rabach's Glen at the start (or finish!) of the circuit. Knockatee is the distinctive hill in the background.

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Knockowen: A view from the West
peter1 14 hours ago.
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Buckoogh: Buckoo Bucks!
ckilm 14 hours ago.
Followed route suggested by Jackill from the east side of Buckoogh and found the nuisance clearfell has worsened over the years since that comment. Would not recommend it at all now. An easier alt...

  
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Camenabologue SE
Bunsen7 2 days ago.
This shortish alternative track makes use of a forest ride (as heralded by Simon3) from Glenmalure to reach Camenabol... walk, Len: 10.6km, Climb: 664m, Area: Camenabologue SE Top, Dublin/Wicklow (Ir

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Mullaghcleevaun circuit
osullivanm 2 days ago.
A very pleasant circuit although some difficult ground between Duff Hill and the return to start of hike. walk, Len: 17.3km, Climb: 792m, Area: Black Hill, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Blac...

  
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An Alp for OAPs...
Colin Murphy 4 days ago.
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Scrabo Hill: Hill with a tower on top
Wilderness 6 days ago.
The hill on its own is 160 meters high and the tower is 40 meters high. The tower is closed during the winter months.The hill can be climbed from the car park just below the Golf Clubhouse at J475...


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