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wicklore
2010-02-09 20:01:52
Quantity verses quality
I'm glad to hear Bray Head is a pleasant destination on a winters day -On a weekend in the middle of the summer it can be a nightmare. The area overlooking Bray is one of the few hills in Ireland where I've somewhat feared for my safety - not from dizzy drops or crumbling rock - rather from lager swilling gangs on a day out and having their version of fun, and leaving havoc in their wake.

In relation to the criteria MV uses to calculate prominence - I think we should hear from Simon on that one. I'm just happy to whip out the maps and check whenever someone raises a query about a hills' inclusion. Padodes raises the interesting point around applying a purely mathemathical approach. This indeed excludes many hiils that are far more deserving of inclusion than some of the boring larger hills. But if MV doesn't apply a formula, then what could they use to decide a hills inclusion? Lets hear from Simon!

The issue of finding the col between a hill and it's nearest higher neighbour does indeed throw up some crazy situations. Take Lugnaquillia -it's nearest highest neighbour is in Kerry. Slieve Donard looks to Lugnaquillia. Galtymore looks to either Kerry or Lugnaquillia. As padodes says, the nearest higher neighbour is not always in the immediate vicinity. Taken at it's extreme, Mount Everest is the only mountain on earth with no higher hill from which to calculate it's prominence.

But who can, and will, propose a system that pleases everyone and includes everyones choice? Perhaps one answer is that everyone has their own list of preferred hills, and simply uses MV to share this with everyon else?
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TommyMc a day ago.
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madfrankie a day ago.
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madfrankie a day ago.
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simon3 4 days ago.
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