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padodes
2009-08-04 06:17:52
"Not a sally in sight: Sally Gap from Carrigvore" from padodes Contract pics
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Changing names
Up to recently, the signposting at the Sally Gap in Wicklow gave the Irish name for this mountain pass as Bearnas na Diallaite (Saddle Gap), which always struck me as being quite apt, since it sits astride the head of the Liffey Valley to the NW and the Cloghoge River Valley to the SE. Indeed, it seemed far more appropriate than the English ‘Sally Gap’, given the absence of any obliging specimen of the willow family (Salix) in that whole area. Recently, however, the Irish name has been changed to Bearna Bhealach Sailearnáin (Gap of the Willow Grove Road) on new signs. At first I thought that perhaps some sensitive Wicklow county councillor who could no longer bear the disparity between the English and Irish names had decided to impose harmony, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. A look at the historical testimonies on the website logainm.ie shows that the newly given Irish name is in fact already attested in the 1655 Civil Survey and that the ‘Saddle Gap’ Irish variation would appear to be a later invention. That still leaves the botanical incongruity of the name intact, but I suppose vegetation can change over the years even more easily than names. It’s unusual, nonetheless, to find any coppice of trees or shrubs growing on open bogland in Ireland, though it is not uncommon in other countries.

I wonder if reverting to the older attested Irish name in this instance is the result of the ongoing work of the Placenames Commission? Perhaps we can expect to see other similar changes in the coming years.
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Beinn Ghobhlach
Peter Walker an hour ago.
Beinn Ghobhlach by evening lightWhen you're told that you can do a walk in the morning if you're quick because your o... walk, Len: 10.9km, Climb: 739m, Area: Beinn Ghobhlach, Loch Maree to Loch Broo

  
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Suilven
Peter Walker 19 hours ago.
I first read about Suilven when I was about 11. It was in some British geographical gazetteer, a stern washed-out pict... walk, Len: 24.0km, Climb: 1029m, Area: Lochinver to Ullapool (Britain) Suilve

  
Summit Comment
Slieve Elva: Fantastic scenery
Damian120 23 hours ago.
A stunning walk going up over Slieve Elva that you can begin and end end at Fanore Beach. Some great locations along the Caher River to stop and relax and watch the water gently flowing downstream...

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Maumtrasna Plateau via Dirkbeg and Buckaun Spurs
Onzy a day ago.
Route to the Mauntrasna plateau using the Dirkbeg spur for ascent and the Buckaun for descent. walk, Len: 10.8km, Climb: 535m, Area: Maumtrasna North-East Top, Partry/Joyce C...

  
Forum: General
Lough Oular From Tonlagee
tomlug48 a day ago.
A beautiful July day on the summit of Tonlagee. Gazing down at the beautiful heart shaped Lough Oular.Tom Barragry & the Lugs .

  
Summit Comment
Knockannavea: Nice views to be had
csd a day ago.
While not very challenging, recent felling means the views along the way and from the summit are pleasant enough. A nice spot for a lunchtime walk.

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Picos de Europa
peter1 2 days ago.
I can say with certainty three things: the ascent was not 3266m, given the peak is only 2503m; secondly, I will be back walk, Len: 13.9km, Climb: 3266m, Area: Spain, Cantabria ()

  
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Knocknabro East Top: Drought made difficult ground trek possible
Collaborative entry Last edit by: CaminoPat 3 days ago.
Knocknabro East Top is best climbed as part of a good loop walk, taking in the West and North-East tops of Knocknabro. This summit is best reached firstly via Knocknabro West Top and then onto the...

  
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Sail Mhor
Peter Walker 4 days ago.
After a week of blazing sunshine in the Peak District overwhelmingly spent swimming in the pool, lazing by the pool a... walk, Len: 11.3km, Climb: 833m, Area: Sail Mhor, Loch Maree to Loch Broom (Bri

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Knocknabro North-East Top: NE Top Revealed
Collaborative entry Last edit by: CaminoPat 3 days ago.
This summit is best reached via Knocknabro West Top. Park at laneway to old farmhouse now in ruin at W15905 83498. Room for 1-2 cars to park. Climb gate at entrance and follow post and wire fence ...

  
Forum: General
.Lough Oular from Tonlagee
tomlug48 2 days ago.
A beautiful July day on the summit of Tonlagee. Gazing down at the beautiful heart shaped Lough Oular.Tom Barragry & the Brothers of the Lug.

  
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Coastal Dublin - Donabate to Malahide
Onzy 4 days ago.
Circuit of Broadmeadows Estuary from Donabate to Malahide walk, Len: 12.9km, Climb: 115m, Area: Dublin Islands (Ireland)


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