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Cooley/Gullion Area   Slieve Gullion Subarea
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Tievecrom Hill An Taobh Crom A name in Irish
(Ir. An Taobh Crom [OSNB], 'the crooked (hill-)side') Armagh County In Binnion List

Height: 264m OS 1:50k Mapsheet: 29 Grid Reference: J02386 15356 This summit has been logged as climbed by 29 members. Recently by: Peter Walker, BleckCra, paddyhillsbagger, liz50, Fergalh, Onzy, FEARGALS, cerosti, millsd1, Geo, muschi, dmc, AntrimRambler, NICKY, Trailtrekker
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Longitude: -6.436558, Latitude: 54.077218 Prominence: 172m,   Isolation: 1.6km
ITM: 702311 815363,   GPS IDs, 6 char: Tvcrm, 10 char: Tievecrom

This peak offers a fine view north to Slieve Gullion and its satellites, and south to County Louth, but access is difficult due to dense undergrowth. A group of stones beside the triangulation pillar on the summit may be the Bohil Breaga of Tiffcrum (i.e. the false lad or shepherd) referred to by Michael J. Murphy in his book 'Mountain Year' (p. 40).   Tievecrom is the 1133th highest summit in Ireland.

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MountainViews.ie Picture about mountain Tievecrom in area Cooley/Gullion, Ireland
Picture: On reaching the edge of the forest head for the lone green tree
 
Do it Now or Be Damned!
by Trailtrekker  19 Apr 2012 Reading through the other comments on this hill you would be forgiven for having a feeling of trepidation about tackling it! Indeed most who have stumbled around its lower slopes in the dark while completing the 100k Oxfam Trailtrekker will have cursed this sometimes unwelcoming hill as well. It is one that I had been on a few times before, but had never made an attempt on it’s summit until now. Bolstered by three5four0’s encouraging comments, which I took with me, I made my attempt on the summit.

Having concerns about access from the Forkhill House side, I choose to approach the hill from the North. Kitted in old jeans, gaiters and a big stick, I parked up in Forkhill village. This is no hill to tear good walking trousers on and no area to be seen walking around with fancy walking poles! I walked the short distance out the B113 to J01867 16048 (Point A), where there is a lane leading up to the hill just before a small bungalow, I followed the track up into the forest. While you are on the hill it is worth taking the short detour onto the unnamed summit that stands at 188, just west of Tievecrom. There are the remnants of the old watchtower that used to watch over this once very troubled area, now claimed by a ragged Armagh flag that looks like its been up there since 2002. The smaller hill is easy to access from the wall along the forest.

I made for J022 151 (Point B) and struck uphill, soon finding the wall three5four0 had mentioned, the corner of it and indeed some grassy slopes. I tackled this on a perfectly dry day and found the ground underfoot to be good. As I saw the edge of the forest coming near I stopped suddenly on hearing voices! If there was one hill where I had expected to be alone, it was this one. I came to edge of the forest at J02352 15267 (Point C), there was no sign of an unsteady tree, but what was in front of me were a young couple, happily sliding down through the ferns in their tracksuits and with their dogs. Not MVers, but locals who visited the summit regularly. I asked their advice and they told me to head for the lone green tree sticking out of the rocks. The route between the edge of the forest and this tree was the only part of my walk that involved ferns, bracken or brambles and were fine to negotiate, they may not be so when summer growth kicks in. From the tree you scramble on to the rocks and it is five minutes to summit, watching out for some slippy underfoot conditions in areas where a thin coating of moss lay over rocks.

From the summit I retraced my steps to point J022 151 (Point B), from here I decided to follow the track back towards the lane along side Forkhill House, out on to the Captains Road, heading west to cross the Kilcurry Road and join the Gullion Way at J01854 14827 (Point D). This is a lovely walk which will bring you back into Forkhill. Anyone who follows this route should also take another detour and take in the beautiful old Urney Graveyard. For me I left the car where it was and walked up the road to Crosslieve.
Point A: J01867 16048 Point B: J022 151 Point C: J02352 15267
Point D: J01854 14827
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Tievecrom
by three5four0  25 Apr 2010 Arrived at the gates (J025146 (Point E)) mentioned by Wicklore, by following the minor roads and the Slieve Gullion Way from Croslieve, well prepared for my forth coming battle with Tievecroms infamous summit slopes.

Followed the track to the second set of locked gates, then to the forestry track turning left along this to Wicklores grid ref at J022151. This spot is easy to recognise, as the forest boundary breaks left, creating a corner in the field, on your left & there is a bank running up hill on your right, pay attention as this is the key.

Now follow this bank, on your right up hill, it turns into a wall and after a short distance it turns right creating a corner. From this corner strike up hill, first through short patches of brambles but more importantly good stretches of grassy hillside and wait for it, a faint path! As you reach the forests end, you will pass round a tree only being held up by its neighbouring trees, as its trunk has been severed. Try not to be around it on a windy day, past this a very faint path (other MVrs wanderings?) winds round the last of the trees and you arrive in area of dead bracken below the small out crop mentioned in previous postings. Here a small trench through the bracken has been created by those hardy souls seeking the summit, it makes straight for the rock band, where it ascends a gap in rock. This feels a bit insecure, due no doubt to the bracken, heather, on deer grass being attached to a light coating of soil on rock, now some more dead bracken, wind bush with some heather and a rock slab is negotiated before arriving at the summit. Return was by the same way, taking care through gap in the rock band (kick those heels in).

Harry Goodman called it right about this hill, as I had found on a couple of Donegal hills the week previous, climb now before the new plant growth starts for spring / summer and it will only be a mild inconvenience, leave till the summer and the route will be choked by brambles, bracken and other soul destroying thorny under growth. The choice is yours!
Point E: J025 146
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MountainViews.ie Picture about mountain Tievecrom in area Cooley/Gullion, Ireland
Picture: Tievecrom 264m. No easy way up! Gaiters essential. Seen here from Croslieve
by pdtempan  8 Jun 2009 Carrauntoohil - a doddle. Mweelrea - a piece of cake. Tievecrom? Probably even more difficult than Cairngaver. The first thing to say is that you should not feel obliged to climb this hill at all, unless you're an MV completist. A more enjoyable walk (and certainly much less masochistic one) is to circumnavigate the hill on the good forest track which loops round it at half height. However, if you must, then you must, but you should bear two pieces of advice in mind. 1) Gaiters are an absolute must, and a machete would be an advantage. This peak is surrounded by forestry with a dense undergrowth of bracken hiding brambles and no rides or paths through to the top. You will actually be relieved when you have fought your way through this and the brambles are replaced by waist-high heather! 2) You will save yourself some difficulty by starting from the end of the road at J028148 (Point F) near Forkill House. Do not be tempted to take what looks like a shorter route by starting from the Forkill village side, as this will only add to your misery. On the way up we tried an approach from the NE side, which has gentler slopes. As we were beating our way through the brambles and ferns, we were convinced we would emerge on the top and find some good path coming up from another direction, but no! On the way down we made a beeline for the circular forest track by taking advantage of a gap in the forestry on the steep SW slopes. There are slightly fewer brambles here, and to start with there are some slabs of rock which make progress much easier, but these disappear when you reach the forestry. Due to the steepness this is probably much more suitable for descent than ascent. So, in fact, it turned out that we probably had taken the best possible route, incredible as it seemed. The summit itself is pleasant, has a trig point and a 360 degree view of South Armagh and North Louth, with Slieve Gullion featuring prominently. Go enjoy!
Point F: J028 148
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MountainViews.ie Picture about mountain Tievecrom in area Cooley/Gullion, Ireland
Picture: From close to the summit, looking over to a snow capped Gullion - Camlough Mtn visible to the right
 
by dr_banuska  4 Jan 2010 This and neighbouring Croslieve are two hills I'd been relishing for a while, the Ring of Gullion holding a special place in my heart (despite being a Tyrone man), and encouraged by Harry's tip that winter is the best time to tackle this stubborn hill. I reached Forkhill by travelling south through Markethill and Whitecross, a route that provides a stunning aspect as you enter the ring dyke, with the higher peaks clearly topped with snow. Like previous posters I parked near Forkhill House - theres good parking along a verge at 028143 (Point G), then walked some distance back along the road to the double gate and path leading to the forest track described by Wicklore. I followed the track west as it rose and fell, until it ascends quite steeply up the northwest slopes as can be seen on Map 29. Once it began to descend again I could see that the track left the forest a little ahead. Before reaching this point I decided just to go for it and enter and scale the forest by the path of least resistance: the ground here was less steep than before where there was generally a bank to negotiate before getting onto the hill proper. I entered the forest therefore about 023157 (Point H). The going wasn't too bad at first but fallen trees blocked progress and then there were the almost impenetrable brambles! I lost count of the number of thorns I plucked from my hands (and legs!) and still have the scars to prove it. As Pdtempan says a machete would be a bonus but a thick branch helped somewhat. Also, because visibility through the trees is so poor I half feared ending up on some rival, false summit. I was relieved to finally exit the trees and took a well deserved rest. Here the view opened up to include Gullion, with Camlough Mtn beyond. Now the waist high heather guarding the final ascent was a doddle (looked like someone else had approached this way recently). I took another breather on the handy stone chair beside the trig point, enjoying the views which now took in Croslieve, the snow capped Cooleys, the plains of north Louth, Dundalk and its bay. I didn't hang around and picked out a clearing to the south with the remains of a stone wall, probably that mentioned by others. I aimed for this, carefully avoiding some stony sections, icy with the recent weather. On reaching the wall it was surrounded by more brambles and here seemed to rise again before descending, so I decided to attempt my way down via the most direct route. Again progress was soon hampered by more brambles and fallen trees. I was also careful to check for hidden drops. As with the summit, the welcome sight of the forest track came upon me quite suddenly. As others have said, this low hill poses quite a challenge but it was worth it for the lovely views and the satisfaction of bagging a peak that still has no established path to the top: looking back, I was amazed I had conquered this jungle-like hill! Again, it's one that's probably best tackled during the winter.
Point G: J028 143 Point H: J023 157
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MountainViews.ie Picture about mountain Tievecrom in area Cooley/Gullion, Ireland
Picture: Trig pillar, stone seat and Gullion beyond
by wicklore  15 Jun 2009 I read pdtempans post about Tievecrom with great interest. Having survived gruelling encounters with Collon Hill and Barranisky in Wicklow I felt suitably prepared for Tievecrom. As an MV completist I was due to climb it soon anyway.

As suggested by pdtempans I started near Forkhill House at a set of gates at J025 146. There is a rough area just next to these where it is possible to park off the road. Go over the locked gates, and follow the track to another set of locked gates at the end. This leads you out onto the forest track referred to by pdtempans.

I turned left on the track as I intended to tackle Tievecrom from the steep SW side. I followed the track and at approx J022 151 I headed up into the trees. pdtempan is spot on in his description – the going is very difficult. Overgrown brambles, ferns and fallen trees, mixed with the steep terrain make this quite a challenge. I was relieved to eventually scramble up on to the large granite protrusions near the summit. The summit area is clear of anything other than heather. Someone has put a few large granite stones together next to the trig pillar to create a nice seat from which to take a breather and admire the view. Just like Barranisky, Collon Hill & Carrick Mountain in Wicklow, I wondered how long it had been since the surrounding hill had been clear enough for the trig pillar to be built. It is certainly a jungle now!

Continuing to reverse pdtempans route I headed SSE. The brambles and ferns quickly become thick and almost impenetrable again. I found the remains of a large stone wall heading steeply downhill at approx J025 153 (Point I). Keeping to the right of this I was able to descend slowly and carefully to the forest track below. The ground is steep and tricky in places but manageable with care.

This hill is indeed only for purists. It requires a great investment of effort and patience, and all for just a 263m hill! Accidents could easily happen in these steep overgrown conditions. But I agree with pdtempan – the reward is the view from the top!
Point I: J025 153
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Access
by NICKY  12 May 2012 The owner of the farm at point a no longer or apparently never did like anyone using that approach.
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