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Members Walk, "Scavvy 11"
Saturday Aug 30th - Comeraghs|
Moderate C+/B walk with A/Challenge opportunities. To take in high tops and a lake-cliff circuit.
11th of this popular twice-yearly social walk, attended by mountainviews.ie members, friends and others.
Informal apres-walk meal and pub.
(This event is organised by certain members for members, not by MountainViews or its committee.)
BleckCra on Scavenger Walk 11 Book Now!
Scavvy 11 - Comeraghs - August 30th
Advise me please at your earliest if you hope to be there.
We need to have rough numbers for evening meal and pub.
This is a summer Scavvy so things need to be booked well ahead - and if you are coming, you should think about your accommodation too.
This is not a commitment from you - just helps us with planning.
Soon as please.
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WALKERS ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND:
For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.
MOUNTAIN MEITHEAL: the following are upcoming work days for 2014:
10/08/2014 23/08/2014 07/09/2014
20/09/2014 05/10/2014 18/10/2014 02/11/2014 15/11/2014
We publicise Mountain Meitheal because they make practical repairs to some of the more popular areas we walk on, using a voluntary community based approach. (More information at their website.)
View from Inishark towards Tully Mountain in the Twelve Bens area. The stepped ridge in the distance on the right descends (r to l) from Letterbreckaun 40.01 km away in the Maamturks. Click for source comment.
Regions: MOUNTAIN COMMENTS - TRIP REPORTS - TRACKS - SUMMARIES
In short: Discovery
NORTH: Into the wide blue yonder
The Bluestacks offer many a fine hill, and none more so than Aghla with its characterful summit of rocks, loughs and ridges and views across Donegal, recounts Aidy.
Aidy on Aghla Mountain: Steep Ascent From The North
Parked at the GAA pitch at the western end of Lough Finn, and took an overgrown lane along the right hand side of the pitch to the foot of the mountain. I went straight up from there, heading for the highest point I could see, although the summit is hidden from this side, and lies well back to the south. It was a steep climb, but not too boggy today, and the ground is well grazed by sheep, so no ... Click here
NORTH: Short, sharp, stunning
So says member fatredline of Slieve Meelmore in the Mournes, which offers especially great views of the Ben Crom reservoir.
fatredline on Slieve Meelmore: short hike but amazing
Bypassed Newcastle for this one headed toward tullymore forest park then the mourne high scenic route which is on the left further on up the road there's a car park near fofanny dam its on the mourne activity map my new found bible I think the route goes through some private land but its easily enough navigated just walk your way up to the mourne wall you can see it from the car park near enough a ... Click here
WEST: Island of melancholic beauty
Multiple comments for Inishark off Mayo, which was part of Islands of Adventure 4. This beautiful, rugged isle was abandoned in 1960, but is still home to incomparable beauty.
group on Inishark Island: An Abandoned Island
Inishark was abandoned in 1960. There is no ferry service so private boat hire is the only access option.
Landing is possible on the old pier with the help of a local guide as the rocks do tend to shift about in winter storms.
On the Island the track from the pier leads up through the old village and on to the Islands summit crossing boggy fields and tumbling stone walls.
The highest point is n ... Click here
WEST: Diamonds on the soles of his...boots
Binn Ghuaire, and in particular the made path circuit leading to and from its summit from the Connemara National Park visitor centre, is either a laudable way of introducing folk to the wonders of the mountains, or a terribly artificial eyesore depending upon your outlook. onzy has approached it in pessimism but come away semi-impressed, and uploaded a track documenting the route. It is indeed a decent two hour introduction to the Twelve Bens in my humble opinion.
Onzy on Approved Route to Diamond Hill
I didn't have high hopes for this walk beginning from the vi walk, Length:6.6km, Climb: 393m, Area: Binn Ghuaire, Twelve Bens (Ireland) Binn Ghuaire Click here
WEST: Karst landscape at its finest
Exploring Abbey Hill in the fascinating landscape of the Burren, wicklore gets to know his grikes from his clints!
wicklore on Abbey Hill: Karst landscape at its finest
The Burren is a 300 sq km region of Co. Clare which is famous for its karst landscape. This manifests itself as magnificent endless exposed limestone plateaus, rocky hills and dramatic natural clean-cut steps and stairs and blocks of rock. Beneath lie breathtaking cave systems that are still being explored. While walking on the plateaus one encounters these ‘blocks’ of rock which are called ‘clint ... Click here
WEST: Small but tough
Kinknock Hill is but a pimple compared to its more famous near neighbour, Croagh Patrick, but it is among the best places to view the reek, recount sandman and wicklore.
wicklore on Kinknock Hill: Tough approach up the northern slope
The wooden gate at L8363681110 gives access onto an initially promising track that becomes tangled and overgrown in places. It eventually peters out at a dead end and there are some difficult briars and high heather to get through to reach the northern slope of Kinknock. This northern slope is difficult enough. The high heather intertwined with briars and new growth which all cover the remnants of ... Click here
WEST: Great views, easy long climb
Helpful locals farmers and a gently rising path helped ease the ascent to Nephin, a very fine summit – just don’t walk off the edge!
group on Nephin: Great views, easy long climb.
One point of access to the Nephin ridge is from the R312 beside a forest edge at about G083052, as recommended by Paddy Dillon. There was off-road parking near this spot. Follow the line of trees up the slope and cross a few fences before clearing the trees, heading roughly W to gain the shoulder spine of Nephin near G089054. From here the spine of Nephin is followed roughly NE all the way to th ... Click here
Scottish Highland Walk
This is one of our members walks to Slioch, a fine Munro near Kinlochewe and Loch Maree
Peter Walker on Slioch
This is the 'standard' route to Slioch, the huge mountain vi walk, Length:21.1km, Climb: 1190m, Area: Loch Maree to Loch Broom (Britain) Trig Point, Click here
Whatever the length or terrain covered, please do submit suggestions for this "Featured Track" spot in future at email@example.com
SOUTH: Finest views in Kerry?
Conor74 makes this brave claim for Eagle’s Nest in the Purple Mountain area!
Conor74 on Eagles Nest: Finest views in Kerry?
Yes, that's a brave comment, but think this has to be right up there. Followed ciarraiochs direction to the foot of the mountain, but instead of heading up the gully towards the summit we veered south to take a steeper gully to the dramatic "prow" of the mountain, the top of which is shown in ciarraioch's photo. We entered a wooded gully that starts near V92839 84013 and emerges near the top at ... Click here
SOUTH: International Man of Mystery...
wicklore's extensive programme of clumping round the South Midlands continues to spawn tracks for our delectation this month. Amongst them is his attempt to get us all to descend upon Ballynalacken Hill, where his exploration has found...something. He's not telling. Intrigued? Well, if not, there are plenty of other little tops nearby to make more of a day of it.
wicklore on Hidden history
Ballynalacken Hill will be easily and all too readily writte walk, Length:2.2km, Climb: 22m, Area: Ballynalacken Hill, South Midlands (Ireland) Bally Click here
SOUTH: The name's Lore. Wick Lore...
Having taken a few too many of those old Bear Grylls pills wicklore has managed to turn an ascent of lowly Carrigadoon into an rollicking escapade replete with thorny jungle crawling and quarry edge balancing...no surprise for those of us who have experienced his swagger at close quarters. A hill that doesn't link readily to anything else, but other low summits (and Slievenamon) are close by.
wicklore on A dangerous summit
Small it may be but if, like me, you approach this hill in w walk, Length:6.5km, Climb: 235m, Area: Carrigadoon Hill, South Midlands (Ireland) Carrig Click here
SOUTH: Heaven Can Wait (for the descent)
Scarcely unknown in outdoor circles are the facts that a) Carrauntoohil is Ireland's highest mountain, and b) the Devil's Ladder and the Heavenly Gates are two possible routes to its summit. But somehow 'up one and down the other' is a route as yet unrecorded on Mountain Views. Into the breach (and wearing shorts, probably) steps jackill, and if 'up the devil bit, down the heaven bit' seems theologically wonky, well, it's probably better to be looking up on the Ladder than looking down...gravity doesn't propel dislodged rocks upwards, after all. The descent also requires care in both location and execution.
jackill on Run with the scout leaders
classic Ballyhouras, walk, Length:10.1km, Climb: 383m, Area: Seefin Mountain W Top, Ballyhoura Mountains (Ireland) Seefin Mountain W Top, Seefin Mou Click here
SOUTH: Carry on Camping...if you must
mcrtchly and kernowclimber are continuing their laudable (but doomed, let's be clear about that) postulation that nights under the stars are somehow preferable to king-sized double beds, flat screen televisions and someone else cooking you a three-course meal. This month's evidence for the defence is a gloriously tough route over and beyond the wilderness surrounding Mangerton in the south-west; a substantial chunk of Paddy Dillon's suggested mountain marathon. Ten tops are covered, and the walk could be completed in a day by the determined (or the fit percentile of the determined); three or four more summits extend towards Moll's Gap at the conclusion; there are access issues in this direction but there's also a) Avoca, and b) their extensive cake selection. Just saying... [ Ed: jealousy will get a reviewer nowhere ]
mcrtchly on A traverse of the Mangertons
On the map our route across the Mangertons looked straightfo walk, Length:29.1km, Climb: 1681m, Area: Crohane, Mangerton (Ireland) Crohane, Crohane S Click here
EAST: The Lake of Guinness
Luggala is a popular spot in Wicklow, especially because of the spectacular views over the lake which borders the Guinness estate, recounts Wicklore.
wicklore on Luggala: Cliffs plunge to a brooding lake
I was surprised to discover that this particular wide view of Luggala (Fancy Mountain) taken from the north has not been added here before. It includes the famous “Guinness Lake” (Lough Tay) which resembles a dark pint with a creamy head to some. The photo was taken from the R759 road that links the Sally Gap and the R755 road to Roundwood and Glendalough. Several small gravel car parks are carved ... Click here
EAST: A hard won but memorable summit.
Dense forestry and multiple possible summits combined to make Carrick Mountain in Wicklow a tough ask, but as wicklore reports, the effort was well worth it.
wicklore on Carrick Mountain: Like Machu Picchu
Map & compass were heavily in use when I climbed Carrick Mountain today. Those who programme summit coordinates into GPS units and let it guide them would have completed this hike in half the time. As it was I spent a long time searching extremely difficult forestry for the elusive summit, which was hindered by the fact that Carrick Mountain actually has several rocky outcrops along the summit.
... Click here
EAST: Coming soon...
A blatant piece of advertising now for the upcoming Comeragh-based Scavvy extravaganza. This will be the eleventh of these shenanigans, and I'm sure all other veterans will vouch for the excellence of both the exercise and the craic. jackill has uploaded the proposed 'C' itinerary taking in Carrignagower from the Nire Valley to the west; the possibilities for extending this to further tops (such as the crowning Fauscoum) should be obvious from the map.
jackill on Up the Devils Ladder and down The Heavenly gates.
An interesting, if standard , route on Carrauntoohil walk, Length:10.1km, Climb: 605m, Area: Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks (Ireland) Carraunto Click here
MIDLANDS: Slow down and let history reveal itself
So advises wicklore, who along with katekat, this month discovered the delights of an apparently unremarkable Ballynalacken Hill in Kilkenny.
wicklore on Ballynalacken Hill: Slow down and let history reveal itself
Ballynalacken Hill will be all too readily written off as a brief stop on the way elsewhere. Despite its excellent views west it may appear to have little else to recommend it. An old ruin and a large metal tank as well as some piping in the ground adorn the summit field. The summit itself is merely a minute or two from the road. A peak-baggers dream one would think.
But there is always some ... Click here
MIDLANDS: South East gem
Clashabeema in Waterford is a diminutive little bump, but affords great views of the Comeraghs, report eamonoc and jackill.
eamonoc on Clashabeema: South East Gem
Climbed 11/7/2014. Started at S 54396 05118. Room here for one car. Crossed gate onto overgrown track, followed it uphill the track became less overgrown and more open. Higher up alongside track there is an electric fence, presumably to keep nearby cattle off the craggy top. Went to high point of the track, the top of Clashabeema is on the left of the path, ducked under fence into rough grassy thi ... Click here
BRITAIN: I wandered lonely as a...what was it again?
A veritable army of Irish hillwalkers invaded the English Lake District in late June, and the results of their (often impressively creative) endeavours are now uploaded to the site by user tonelagee (presumably a person rather than the entire Wicklow mountain). They completed a fair few far-from-obvious itineraries, but they also did what the late Alfred Wainwright considered to be the finest mountain walk in the district; ascending Scafell Pike (England's highest summit) via Esk Hause and descending via Sty Head Pass. This is indeed a route that showcases a lot of the district's unique appeal, from its ravishing sylvan valleys to the grey austerity of the Pike itself.
tonelagee on Scafell Pike
walk, Length:15.0km, Climb: 911m, Area: Lake District - Central & Western Fells (Britain) Scafell Pike, Broad Crag, Blunt Top Click here
Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.
East-West revised "Wicklow Mountains West"|
East-West mapping have brought out a revised version of their Wicklow Mountains West map, which has a 1:30,000 scale.
Like previous maps in this series this has great strengths for hillwalkers. These include:
a. Accurate forest roads, rides and paths. In our opinion the map is worth buying for this information.
b. Formal and less formal parking is shown and starting points (boots symbol).
c. Land coverage is somewhat shown, for example the stony ground SE of Tonelagee is shown - however this is not consistent, for example the boulder strewn ground around the Coffin Stone on Djouce is not shown.
d. Some people do not like intermediate scales like 1:30,000 or 1:40,000 however I think this often represents a reasonable compromise between coverage and detail.
e. There are interesting details such as "Bog worked in the emergency" (south of Sally Gap) or "air crash site" (Corriebracks)
f. Buildings are marked, lettering is carefully arranged not to obscure detail
g. The paper used is relatively durable and the map is very professionally put together
Features we do not think are appropriate:
a. East-West are continuing to promote an all numeric approach to grid references and deemphasising the usual Letter+digits approach. For example they say that Tonelagee can be represented as 308 201 (to 1 km accuracy). MountainViews and ALL other popular resources using the Irish Grid would refer to this as O08 01 (to 1km accuracy) or the usual 6 digit grid ref of O085 015 to 100m (MV goes further and shows a 1m accuracy value of O08503 01589).
The map does emphasise the correct grid square letters to the side, however they are NOT REPEATED on the map. Picture the scene while you are walking. You have a GPS which will tell you your grid reference. You want to see it on the map but your map is folded into a mapcase. In order to figure out where you are on the map you would have to unfold the map and of course the usual times you want to do this is when it is raining, windy and your party does not want to hang around. So East-West please repeat the grid square letters so that they can be read on a folded map.
b. East-West includes a lot of names that do not appear on other maps. They say "The names appearing on these maps should not be regarded as fully definitive – hopefully they are a better representation than that which has appeared heretofore but there is always scope for improvement." and also "In some cases the location & attribution of names to certain features is educated guesswork". They believe it is important to retain names and this is better than getting some wrong.
One thing I would refer to in East-West mapping is the need for clarity by hillwalkers. On a previous version of this map Silsean and Moanbane were reversed. This is confusing and in rescue situations downright dangerous however the map now has changed so that Moanbane is back where it is on the OS if the spelling is different. Another example is the issue of Mullaghcleevaun East. According to East-West this should be called Stony Top because the local farmers call it this. And further calling it Mullaghcleevaun East "..has all the hallmarks of a ‘bureaucrat’ who didn’t know the name and just added East to the name of the main summit."
In my view this sort of dialogue is not helpful. The main people visiting the area are recreational users such as hillwalkers not farmers and it is entirely reasonable for them to create names for important summits where none are clear. When doing so the names need to be non-confusing. There already is an established "Stony Top" about 4k to the south beside Tonelagee. It is dangerous and confusing to call Mullaghcleevaun East by the same name as somewhere else nearby. See map section to the left for the double helping of Stony Top. As for the pejorative bureaucrat label: the well established name of Mullaghcleevaun East Top is what Joss Lynam and others called this summit as early as 1952. Lynam and the others were people who wanted to give a distinctive name to the place in the absence of any other authoritative source. Bureaucrats? Get real.
As far as I am concerned placenames in Ireland are a considerable mess and there is no totally correct answer from a cultural or historical point of view. To rectify this I think that there should an active, unpoliticised authoritative body to which we could all refer. In the absence of this, I am reluctant to include or change names for which there isn’t an academic or official consensus. However one aspect that is clear is that the hillwalkers of Ireland need maps with unambiguous names.
We recommend this map because of the hugely useful and recently updated detail it has. The Ordnance Survey will not find it easy to source this level of detail in their planned and ambitious 3 map (six page) 1:25,000 series for the Dublin Wicklow area. At present however there is little choice other than East-West if you want good detail.
East-West commentary. www.eastwestmapping.ie/placenames-heritage
PDF, 1952 List: mountainviews.ie/features/names/List1952/vandeleur_lynam_1952list_copy.pdf
MV articles on mountain naming: mountainviews.ie/resources/
Can we end on a positive note, East-West and MountainViews now cooperate in various areas even if we may differ on some. MV is mentioned on East-West's website and on the map. MV heights - some surveyed - are used on the map and Arderins are denoted with a blue height figure. We are indebted to East-West for bringing to light the 1952 listing created by Joss Lynam and others. We support competition between suppliers which will benefit us all.
-- Simon Stewart.
Revised Settings Page
In order to have a better understanding of the membership MV has added various fields to the Settings page. We are also interested in finding out what club or clubs people are in, if you are in one. Please do fill in these details. Settings are accessed at the top right of any MountainViews page when you are logged in.
simon3 on New feature: Settings Page additions.
Over the years many thousands of people have registered on MountainViews, which is great. Some of the more active members know some of the other active members but really nobody knows as much as would be desirable about the membership in general.
If the committee and the publisher know a bit more about the membership we can have a better go at providing relevant services. In 2012 we published ... Click here
Organising Videos: Request for Help
Various MV members produce videos and we would like to organise our references to them etc. This would be a task that could be described as "continuing but light" and if you would like to help get in touch with firstname.lastname@example.org
Kudos to our contributors.
We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month.
anekk11, astroheights, atlantic73, barryhoban, benbulbinjoe, bjsmyth, brendank35, BrianCopley, CaitNi, careybrian1, chuckie, civilience, cmcgov, cmyk, conorc57, cspring, Damedoris, david64, davidsmyth, dechogan, dermot57, dh1, ebirch, elsehonig, fatredline, firefox, fpeters, Gman1, gpjg55, grehango4xxxx, gringottsgoblin, hugh_oc, iblet, idc537, JakeG, jcincork, jimmcgee, John-Lynch, john75, jumboon, kmacgrianna, kylemalco, k_mcdermott, larkindeclan, lauren721, lennonr2, mac1, mankboy, mardon, Marty_47, mike27, mikeod, misako, mooneyj, mylesduffy, najdnera, Nat, PadraigT, Patcallaghan53, pblenn, pillar, qwerty1976, Ravenheart, raygreene, rhodevans, rosesmith, SaoirseK, sean-evelyn, shanekathois, Sprentice, tamuz_o, TipsyDempy, victordelrosal, Vincent1966, Vinni, wbmaree (76)
Our contributors to all threads this month:
(1), Aidy (3), BleckCra (4), CaptainVertigo (2), Colin Murphy (1), Conor74 (3), David-Guenot (2), DenisMc (1), Fergalh (3), Onzy (5), Patsy (1), Pepe (1), Peter Walker (3), Trailtrekker (2), astroheights (1), atlantic73 (1), bsheils (1), conormcbandon (1), eamonoc (6), exaisle (1), fatredline (2), garrettd (2), geohappy (1), Communal summary entries (21), jackill (8), katekat (2), kernowclimber (2), madfrankie (3), markwallace (1), mcrtchly (4), millsd1 (1), mlmoroneybb (1), nkenealy (1), osullivanm (1), peter1 (1), raygreene (1), sandman (2), shaneanddearbh (2), simon3 (11), tonelagee (7), vecnyhlad (1), wicklore (20)
For a fuller list view Community | Recent Contributors
There were comments on the following summits
Abbey Hill, Aghalion Hill, Aghla Mountain, Arderin, Ballynalacken Hill, Baltinglass Hill, Beenarourke, Ben Goram, Binn Bhreac, Binn Dubh, Bleanbeg, Bunnacunneen, Cahernageeha Mountain, Callahaniska, Carrick Mountain, Carrigoona Commons, Carrowmore Hill, Clashabeema, Corraun Hill, Corraun Hill East Top, Croagh Patrick, Croaghnamaddy, Cruach Eoghanach, Donnell's Hill, Dromavally Mountain, Eagles Nest, Falleennafinoga, Fauscoum, Feede Mountain, Inishark Island, Inishturk, Kinknock Hill, Knockadullaun, Knockanes, Knockanore, Knockanuarha, Knockaviltoge, Knockmaa, Knocknaskereighta, Krinnuck, Letter South, Lettershinna Hill, Luggala, Mount Foley, Nephin, Slieve Donard, Slieve Meelmore, Slieveanard NE Top, Slievecarnane, Slievemaan, Tower Hill, Tully Mountain
and these tracks Achillbeg Island S Top, Achill/Corraun Ireland, Achillbeg Island S Top, Achill/Corraun Ireland, Ballinacorbeg, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Ballynalacken Hill, South Midlands Ireland, Been Hill, Glenbeigh Horseshoe Ireland, Binn Ghuaire, Twelve Bens Ireland, Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Carrigadoon Hill, South Midlands Ireland, Carrignagower, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Carrignagower, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Catstye Cam, Lake District - Eastern Fells Britain, Corraun Hill East Top, Achill/Corraun Ireland, Crohane, Mangerton Ireland, Faranaree Hill, South Midlands Ireland, Fossy Mountain, South Midlands Ireland, Galtybeg, Galty Mountains Ireland, Hell Gill Pike, Southern Cumbria Britain, High Snab Bank, Lake District - Central & Western Fells Britain, Inishark Island, Mayo Islands Ireland, Inishark Island, Mayo Islands Ireland, Inishark Island, Mayo Islands Ireland, Inishturk, Mayo Islands Ireland, Knockshanahullion, Knockmealdown Mountains Ireland, Lake District - Central & Western Fells Britain, Lake District - Central & Western Fells Britain, Loch Maree to Loch Broom Britain, Seefin Mountain W Top, Ballyhoura Mountains Ireland, Slieve Elva, West Clare Ireland, Souther Fell South Top, Lake District - Northern Fells Britain, St Raven's Edge, Lake District - Eastern Fells Britain, Temple Hill, Galty Mountains Ireland, Tonelagee NE Top, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, W Limerick/N Kerry Ireland tracks and these walks were created Bangor Trail - High Level.
Thanks to all 1138 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.
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MountainViews now has 7020 comments about 1268 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1384). We want to get a good gps track showing each of the major ways up every summit in Ireland. If you see an option to add a "Short Summary" then do please consider creating one since another objective is to have a short summary for every summit in Ireland. There's a few (116) opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit.
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