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Monthly newsletter of MountainViews.ie for guestuser

May 2012




OSI, 1:25k maps, consultation report, Brandon map etc etc

Featured track in the Twelve Bens

Summits and tracks info for EAST, WEST, NORTH and SOUTH -- easier ways up the notorious Slieve Carr, hard ways around Wicklow and the Twelve Bens

Gear Review: Boots

Review: Scenic Walks in Kerry by Jim Ryan


Volunteering with MountainViews: A number of new faces, more wanted!.

In the last newsletter we asked for help on Track Reviews, Gear Reviews, Fund Raising/finance and committee membership. Recently also we asked for help with Book Reviews and Software Development. I am glad to tell you that a number of people have offered to help. Some of their efforts are immediately visible in this newsletter.
  • Track Reviews: Tom Condon and Peter Walker are sharing putting in reviews and discussions about the tracks members have uploaded. These tracks can contain valuable lessons and it is well worth holding out the best and discussing what's there.
  • Book Reviews: Aidan Dillon and Conor Murphy. A number of books are being published in various places at present such as by the Collins Press and we are delighted that people have come forward to review them.
  • Software Development: Neil Kenealy is getting involved with this. We hope to make the system more amenable to a group approach to development so that others with suitable experience can also help.
  • Gear Reviews: Tom Sweeney is providing us with gear reviews, starting with one on boots useable in Ireland this month.
This is all great and a substantial boost to our existing pool of around 6 or 7 volunteers and helpers. We would like to thank new, current and past volunteers.
However we could use help in some further areas of fund raising/finance. As a unique and valuable non-profit resource MountainViews can be expanded greatly but needs finance. It can attract sponsorship or find other ways of obtaining funding. We could use help in this area.

We could also use further resources for our committee to ensure adequate resources to organise functions and complete some specific tasks.

Perhaps some of our numerous lady members might also be interested in coming forward as a volunteer or joining the committee?
Email us at admin@mountainviews.ie

Ordnance Survey of Ireland looking for opinions, including yours.

We mentioned last month that OSI was running a consultation meeting on the proposed re-issue of their 1:25,000 maps. I went along to the meeting which had people from some selected organisations such as the Scouts, the National Trails Office and MI. In other European countries such as Britain or France the 1:25000 maps which cover the entire territories are the main recreational maps. And these maps contain considerably more surveyed detail than those in the Republic. Even Northern Ireland has a higher percentage of its area mapped at 1:25k than the Republic. So we were glad to hear that OSI would consider creating further 1:25k maps. Ideally of course these maps like other recreational mapping would draw on a wider range of sources such as accurate designation of roads in terms of private or public, or accurate representation of windfarms now a major feature of the landscape, or accurate forestry tracks. And dare we say it, we would love if the OSI could actually commission or organise on the ground checking of maps in recreational areas for features of interest to users.

However while we may and did ask about these goals, we are also aware that the Republic in general faces staggering debts and OSI themselves may be subject to some organisational change to be announced in the near future as happened in NI. There have also been large job cuts in the OSI workforce. So while never forgetting longer term goals about the quality of mapping, it is also definitely appropriate to discuss whatever minor improvements can be made at lower cost.

In that context we were glad to hear that OSI will consider approaches regarding summit names. Perhaps influenced by a fit of Ó Cuiv over-enthusiasm a 1:25,000 map of the Brandon area came out not including English/ anglicised names for summits. This was about the same time as the name Dingle was officially extinguished by government decision something that the majority of the local people opposed. As wikipedia has it 'In late 2005, Kerry County council approved the holding of a plebiscite for the change of name to the bilingual "Dingle/Daingean Uí Chúis" which took place in October, 2006. The result was announced on 20 October, and 1,005 of the 1,086 returned ballots (electorate: 1,222) favoured the change to the bilingual version'. This clearly shows a massive majority (92%) in the area in favour of a bilingual approach.

MountainViews has always promoted the inclusion of English/ anglicised and Irish names as is immediately obvious from our summit descriptions. It is a cultural loss when either the English/ anglicised or Irish names are suppressed. So we were glad that we were told that OSI will consider the suggestion to put the English/ anglicised names on to the 1:25,000 map of Brandon.
In our view it will become a matter of public controversy not to adopt a bilingual approach. If we can help, we will - certainly we have bilingual lists of summits for the area.

OSI also said they would consider the names in other maps. I asked our resident names expert Paul Tempan about this and he stated that the first obvious thing to do is to get An Brainse Logainmneacha (The Irish Placenames Branch) to officially check the names of summits and other features on maps such as the forthcoming 1:25,000 maps. There are some specific cases that could use correction where it appears that the Placenames Branch version and the OS version are not the same. MountainViews will help if we can.

What you can do? You can fill in the OSI poll Click here to fill in the poll that OSI are currently running.

WAI events in 2011/2012 - Winter Talks Series

The Walkers Association Winter Talks series 2011/2012 and other activities went out with a bang with the Modern Navigation course, the WAI Photography Day and a talk on the Coast to Coast walk in Britain with reminiscences from the astonishingly well travelled Pat Lynch all within an 8 day period.

The Walkers Association are interested in taking on new people for their committee to help run this series of very successful events.

More here: www.walkersassociation.ie

For a full list of Challenge Walks, visit here.

The WAI tell us that if you are interested in hosting such an event outside of Dublin, do get in touch at http://www.walkersassociation.ie/contact

WAI Photo Gallery - They would like you to upload some of your pictures (Ireland or abroad) to this?


20/15/2012 02/06/2012 17/06/2012 30/06/2012
15/07/2012 28/07/2012 12/08/2012 25/08/2012
09/09/2012 22/09/2012 07/10/2012 20/10/2012
04/11/2012 17/11/2012
More information at www.pathsavers.org

Alpine Views
Mayo contains some of the greatest views in Ireland. And what better place than from the diminutive Slieve Alp, very well positioned between the Nephin Begs and Achill Island. What you see here is just part of the huge 270 degree panorama of mountains, ridges, sea and islands. The pyramidal summit is Slievemore on Achill island, the nearer rounded summit partly obscured by the cairn is Bunmore, 243m.

In short: Discovery

WEST: Head in the clouds
Tully Mountain in the Twelve Bens offers stunning coastal and mountain views, but unfortunately kept it's head in the low clouds on the day our member made his ascent.
FilHil on Tully Mountain: In the clouds.
On 28.02.2012 most of Connemara was under a thick blanket of fog and low cloud, however, Tully Mountain looked just possible. Even so I had to wait till early afternoon for clouds to lift. I parked at the foot of an old quarry (room for 1 car on a slope) about 300m past the small quay which was rather busy with all kinds of maintenance activities. A short but steep stony track leads to a di ... Click here

WEST: Go West holy man, go West!
Age notwithstanding, weather is really the deciding factor ... good weather = Absolutely Superb, everything else = Enjoyable. While march-fixer encountered poor conditions, it did not diminish the thrill of tracking part of this original pilgrim route. Unfortunately, like the contention surrounding Uluru's sacred significance to the Aboriginals, locals are not happy that Croagh Patrick is seen as much a recreation destination as a traditional place of worship. To allay any irritation this trek was completed as part of a Good Friday pilgrimage!
march-fixer on Croagh Patrick Ridge Walk
Good Friday - Why not extend the pilgrimage and traverse the walk, Length:10.4km, Climb: 945m, Area: Croagh Patrick Far East Top, Croagh Patrick (Irel Click here

WEST: Grand title, good views, little challenge.
The ambitiously named Slieve Alp in the Nephin Beg range at least provides vistas to compare with it's much bigger brothers in Europe!
group on Slieve Alp: Grand title, good views, little challenge.
This summit can be reached most easily from the minor road at F85390 15197 for a round trip of about 2 hours. There is a private bridge here. Ask permission of anyone you see and in particular at the house that the bridge leads to and note that this is a sheep farm so dogs or large parties are most unlikely to be welcome. Reaching the summit is straightforward. See Track 1546. It would also b ... Click here

WEST: A last stop before the Next Parish
Some of the most satisfying days in the Irish hills are to be had on the islands off the west coast: beginning and ending with a boat trip adds a pleasant sense of adventure (even if in reality it's not that adventurous). Gerrym has made the short sailing from Roonagh to Clare Island where an ascent of Knockmore was the highlight of a leisurely day's exploration, and the track he has posted is backed up with an extensive description of the walk and its environment.
gerrym on A round of Clare
Starting point is Roonagh, where the ferry makes the crossin walk, Length:15.8km, Climb: 579m, Area: Knockmore, Achill/Corraun (Ireland) Knockmore Click here

WEST: I’m just going outside…I’ll now be less time than I would have been previously
Also way out in the west is the fabled peak of Slieve Carr, a summit often cited as the most remote and tricksome in the land. Simon3's track (together with his supplementary summit comments) provide routes that bring this fascinating hill within sensible reach for the majority of experienced walkers: hopefully this will solve the riddle of Slieve Carr without spoiling the enigma. For tougher operators with transport flexibility this would provide an excellent start or finish to a greater traverse of the Nephin Beg range. For others, they may provide a template for the creation of even more straightforward routes to the top: the possibilities are there.
simon3 on Slieve Carr from the East.
This track shows a possible way up Slieve Carr starting from walk, Length:18.7km, Climb: 668m, Area: North Mayo (Ireland) Slieve Carr Click here

WEST: Perilous Descent to Maumina
Negotiating cliffs, perilous ledges and crumbling handholds, Captain Vertigo tells us how not to descend from Benbaun in the Twelve Bens!
CaptainVertigo on Binn Bhán: Perilous Descent to Maumina
I had prepared properly for the Owenglin Horseshoe including taking heed of Wicklore's words of warning: "When on the summit of Binn Bhàn last year I contemplated whether there was a safe route down to Màm Eidhneach (Maumina col), between Binn Bhàn and Binn Dubh (Bencollaghduff) in the lower right of the photo. I didn’t take the chance, and looking at the mountain from Binn Bhraoin last week I cou ... Click here

WEST: More on The Twelve (Bens) Labours of Captain Vertigo
Back out in the west we have (slightly) adventurous and (highly) informative regular contributor CaptainVertigo on the ‘other’ horseshoe in the Twelve Bens in Connemara, surviving the adverse conditions both underfoot and overhead to bring us a nicely self-deprecatory commentary to his track (as well as some very useful navigational pointers): obviously an excellent trip for the more resilient hillwalker and summit bagger. (Please note the actual ascent as being c. 1700m rather than 875m...if that's not too much for you then further tops are accessible from this route for the tough/insane/insanely tough).
CaptainVertigo on The Owenglin Horseshoe
This challenging route (the actual ascent is circa 1700 metr walk, Length:18.7km, Climb: 875m, Area: Binn Bhreac, Twelve Bens (Ireland) Binn Bhreac, Click here

EAST: The track less travelled ...
A nice visit by djacobs and the Wayfarers to the quieter and more southerly reaches of the Wicklow Mountains. They chose to walk in from Clonroe Cross Roads through varied easy terrain to join the county border line on the way to summit Croghan Kinsella. Others may prefer to start from around Croghan Bridge, thereby affording the possibility of also claiming Slievefoore as part of their circuit.
djacobs on Croghan (Kinsella) from the other Wicklow gap (in Wexford)
Croghan or Croghan Kinsella, not to be confused with Croghan walk, Length:16.1km, Climb: 564m, Area: Croghan Kinsella, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Crogh Click here

EAST: Do it right, or not at all ...
This seems to be Mulciber's motto as another 38.6Km 'leg trembler' gets uploaded. A veteran of long marches, this well planned route spears 8 summits (with 2 more in reserve) in an anti-clockwise traverse of three beautiful Wicklow valleys. Significant height was only conceded at two locations over the entire route. A long haul over which good walking speed was maintained. Not for the faint hearted!
Mulciber on Glendalough Butterfly.....
A nice easy start along the Wicklow Way and on to Scarr, dow walk, Length:38.6km, Climb: 1350m, Area: Scarr, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Scarr, Tonelage Click here

EAST: Ireland's most isolated hill
What Croghan Hill lacks in height, it makes up in the panorama its isolation affords.
FilHil on Croghan Hill: Well worth a detour.
I enquired at the one and only shop at Croghan Demesne. Staff were very friendly and allowed me to park the car on their forecourt. There is additional parking further up the road near the school. Take the narrow tarmac road opposite the shop up to the water reservoir. Go through a metal gate and up a short section of stony and muddy track turning into a field, then through the adjacent fi ... Click here

EAST: A Hop, a Skip & a Jump!
If you are down south Dungarvan way, around Kilmacthomas or near Clonmel, why not take an hour out from the journey and pop up and visit Crohaun. This little jaunt by thomas_g could be easily extended if you follow the obvious path further to the south and then loop around back to the north, rather than following the fire-breaks through the trees. The summit provides nice panoramic vistas out over west Waterford and beautiful south coast.
thomas_g on Crohaun Quick Loop
A quick 30 minute loop which takes in Crohaun top and brings walk, Length:3.3km, Climb: 151m, Area: Crohaun, Comeragh Mountains (Ireland) Crohaun Click here

EAST: 1950's Wicklow air tragedy recalled
MV member malonesean supplies some background info on the plane wreckage that has often mystified walkers on Wicklow's Table mountain
malonesean on Table Mountain: Further information on the air accident
The aircraft was flown by a lt. Patrick Leo O'Connor. It crashed in bad weather on March 7th 1957. His family visited the site in September 2010 to place a plaque in his honour. Details of the visit were published in the Roscommon Herald, October 5th 2010. He was buried on his 21st birthday. Click here

NORTH: A Mournes panorama
The early bird (MV member muzag) catches a wonderful montage of 15 shots to capture the Mournes in all their glory
muzag on Slieve Bearnagh: A Mournes Panorama
Last Sunday I met up with a friend's group to do Slieve Bearnagh. The sun was shining and I was up and out early. Too early as it happened, so rather than wait in a car park I headed up above the Spellack slabs from where I could look down on the Trassey Valley (http://db.tt/g0Fd44oW) and see my group as they emerged from the Clonachullion Woods. We met up at the start of the climb to Hares' Ga ... Click here

NORTH: A soupcon of Sperrins
Slightly less energy and nerve (and navigation) will be required to follow gerrym’s track through the trees of Glenelly out onto the spacious Sperrin top of Carnanelly: an easy couple of hours that could be turned into a fuller day by the inclusion of its West Top and Mullaghbane.
gerrym on Goles Forest to carnanelly
A short walk of 2 hours with good parking, comfortable fores walk, Length:7.6km, Climb: 364m, Area: Carnanelly, Sperrin Mountains (Ireland) Carnanell Click here

NORTH: Do it now or be damned!
That's the advice of member Trailtrekker who recently ascended the diminutive Tievecrom in the Cooley/Gullion area, and found it a rewarding experience.
Trailtrekker on Tievecrom: Do it Now or Be Damned!
Reading through the other comments on this hill you would be forgiven for having a feeling of trepidation about tackling it! Indeed most who have stumbled around its lower slopes in the dark while completing the 100k Oxfam Trailtrekker will have cursed this sometimes unwelcoming hill as well. It is one that I had been on a few times before, but had never made an attempt on it’s summit until now. B ... Click here

SOUTH: Lots of view for little effort
Long Hill in the lesser known of the Comeraghs, as member thonas_g discovered, is short on efforts and long on reward.
thomas_g on Long Hill: Lots of view for little effort
Long hill can be reached from lay-by above Barravakeen (first right past Clonmel golf club) at S248193 with plenty of room for cars. Walk up the road, hop the fence and skirt across the top of the Punchbowl to reach the summit. There is also easy access from Glennagad, via the road up to the holy cross (S209207 - room for 4 cars). From this side there is a track up the mountain and then a quick t ... Click here

SOUTH: Bag a top in 20 minutes!
Our member may have set a record for the fast hill bag on Mountainviews as he 'conquers' Knockcraugh Hill in the Boggeraghs!
thomas_g on Knockcraugh: West End Boys
Expecting a horrid experience I was pleasantly surprised by the route from the west. There is a small road at W38850 83800 which turns into a rough forestry track, it's drivable in a normal car up to about W394 852 where there is space for about 2 cars to park. The road continues if you got something a bit more robust to a small boggy track at W39806 85448. This track brings you within 75m of the ... Click here

Sorry if we didn't mention what you posted .. there's a list of all contributors for the month later.


Mournes: Beauty avoids the Beastly
In a poignant outburst our contributor and public conscience describes what you can still do in the Mournes without being confronted by inappropriate development.
Ah, Dundrum, St Johns Point and on north. I know it a little from visiting my folks who retired to a little further north on this coastline, retired that is until sectarian cleansing pushed them out.
But I digress into past trauma .. let's stay with the present and do read this insight into a modern developmental issue, a product of people with too much money and too little understanding of what is valuable in the mountain environment .. Bleck Cra on SWITCH TRACK IN THE MOURNES
It’s like television. If something offends you, don’t look at it. The ghastly butchering of the Glen River track in the Mournes by the Mournes Heritage Trust ….. if you can’t face it, which I can’t, don’t look at it. … and so other routes and tracks, since many years untrammelled by interruption and untrod or never at all, open creaky doors and welcome you to their sumptious realms. Such is the ... Click here

A tragic warning we should all heed
Following the tragic death of a walker on Croagh Patrick, a pathologist warns of some of the risks associated with hill walking. CaptainVertigo on Irish Times -Inquest Coverage
I believe that the Irish Times continues have the best national coverage of hillwalking and environmental issues. Typically there is a good note of the recent Mayo Inquest into the death by heart attack of a regular Croagh Patrick walker. May I express condolences to the family of the deceased. "Inquest warning for climbers ANYONE WITH a history of heart problems or the lung disea ... Click here

Further reviewer wanted.
Would anyone be interested in reviewing "The Time Has Come: Ger McDonnell - His Life & His Death on K2" by Damien O'Brien. Let us know at admin@mountainviews.ie

Fame or at least infamy in the Irish Times
It's great to see that a major newspaper has noticed the Arderins. It's been a while since 2009 when we invented the list titles Arderin (and Vandeleur-Lynam) so we are glad people notice. simon3 on Irish Times on "Peak Bagging in south"
That august body, the Irish Times or at least a writer in its Sat April 21st 2012 Magazine, one Tony Doherty has noticed the "Arderin" bug. "I was lazily putting my boots on in a lay-by recently when a car zoomed up, screeched to a halt, disgorged three already kitted out climbers who shot off up the track calling out to the driver, 'See you on the other side around six'." "Upon inquiring of ... Click here

Travel discounts for community and voluntary groups by
Iarnród Éireann (Irish Rail) has launched a new community initiative to support organisations and groups in the voluntary, community, sporting and charity sector.

The initiative, entitled "The Journey's On Us", will provide up to €200,000 worth of group travel to organisations in the sector who apply for the scheme in 2012. They say "We know there are youth, sports, music, voluntary, charity and other groups in the community who would benefit greatly from being able to undertake initiatives which involve a travel cost, but have had to scale back."

Details at
- Online entry form at www.irishrail.ie/journeys
- Emailed entry forms to journeys@irishrail.ie

Let us know if you find out whether hillwalking groups can avail of this. The closing date for receipt of entries is Friday 25th May.
Thanks to Bernard Lennon for this one.

Discounts for walker-friendly places in Northern Ireland

www.WalkNI.com is offering big discounts on accommodation and restaurants for walkers coming to Northern Ireland. The accommodation providers and restaurants are all situated close to walking areas and are all walker–friendly, perfect for a walking break in Northern Ireland. Here are a few examples of the offers available on walkni.com:

The Mournes
· Tory Bush, self catering traditional cottages not far from the Trassey Track, is offering 2 nights for 2 people for €123
· The Burrendale Hotel, in the Mountains of Mourne always popular with walkers, is offering 30% off normal price.
· Maginns pub in Castlewellan are offering a walkers lunch from €4.10

The North Coast & Antrim
· Glenluce Lodge, situated at the start of the Causeway Coast Way, is offering 2 nights for only €36
· Bushmills Inn Hotel, a luxurious hotel in Bushmills, is offering 20% off
· The Cellar Restaurant in Ballycastle is offering a free glass of wine with a spend of €11.70

The Sperrins
· An Clachan Cottages in the Sperrins are offering 3 nights for the price of 2


BOOTS for Irish Bogs

For the Irish hillwalker boots are key. Unlike many countries we do not have neat consistent paths. Instead, we need to be ready and prepared for scree, rock, heather and deep deep bog.

Boots are often said to be the most important piece of kit to get right. Get your boots (and socks) right and you could then hike in the hills naked (apart from the Irish weather and the fact that it might be a little frowned upon).

Before we talk in more detail about boots I should mention my disclaimer that I am not an expert on boots or feet and don't know the science behind how the two go together. I don't know which brand has a wider fit or small fit or a deeper heel cup. These things can be important and certainly many of the staff in Irish outdoor shops are now well trained (cynically you would say overtrained) in boot fitting. Despite all this there is a lot to be said for trying the boots on a seeing what they feel like.

What type of boot is suitable for the Irish hills? Of course it depends on what type of hillwalking you do but I would recommend a full-leather 3 season boot with a waterproof membrane. You could go for a lighter fabric boot but I doubt it will keep your feet dry and doubt that it will last that long. You could go for a heavier 4 season boot but you're probably going to want a cooler boot for summer. My preference is generally towards stiffer boots.

The Scarpa Cristallo is one of the modern fabric boots but also has a significant amount of leather (suede) once you get above a large rubber rand. They feel remarkably light but still offer plenty of support and have a bit of a spring in the sole-flex. These are designed for scrambling and via-ferrata and they seem very suitable for the job. I've worn these extensively on trails in Europe. These would be great for the Irish hills when you know the ground will be dry. Otherwise, the fabric upper just doesn't handle the wet Irish bog that well. They will also take a C1 crampon, but remember B1 crampons are not intended for extended or technical use.

The Scarpa Manta is an absolute classic boot. Probably more popular and more of a classic in the UK due to its suitability as a winter hillwalking boot. This boot is quite stiff with a thick one-piece leather upper. The sole-unit is a little flat which makes walking on roads or tracks not so comfortable. The Manta takes a crampon very well. The downsides to the Mantas is that they are heavy and the thermal lining makes them too warm for summer use. But, if you're looking for 1 boot to take you anywhere in the mountains of these islands in any conditions (colder rather than warmer) then this is probably it. They also are rated for a C2 crampon, which makes them a great boot for hillwalking on snow or ice.

Scarpa SL is another classic boot and massively popular in the UK. The SL has been around for many years but the current model is a little higher and the sole is not as flat which makes it more comfortable, especially for walking on the flat. If the fit is right, then a great boot for the Irish hills.

The Meindl Island is a long time performer on the market and very popular among Irish hillwalkers. The popularity is justified and nearly everything about this boot is perfect for the Irish hills.

-- Tom Sweeney (MV Member)

A place for those interested in Summiteering, Bagging or Highpointing.

Scenic Walks in Killarney by Jim Ryan

Published March 2012 by Collins Press €9.99

There are many fine books about walking in Kerry. These range from Coleman and Mersey’s personal memoirs through pocket guides such as those by Higginson and MacMonagle to more strenuous hikes described by Herman and Hendroff. Indeed Jim Ryan has been here before with his excellent guide to Carrantoohil and the Reeks. So with his latest effort, “Scenic Walks in Killarney – A Walking Guide”, he was taking something of a risk insofar as one might think the subject well covered.

Perhaps unlike some of the earlier guides, in its style and appearance “Scenic Walks” is similar to Adrian Hendroff’s recent Guide to the Dingle, Iveragh and Beara Peninsulas, also by Collins Press – both are crammed with maps and attractive colour photographs. However, the nature of the walks themselves are from the gentler end of the spectrum. Many of those detailed by Jim Ryan are strolls, suitable for the family, along unchallenging terrain. Some are as short as 1 kilometre. However, that is not to say the walks are uninteresting. Ryan carefully selects his walks to take the reader past many of the most interesting sites in Killarney and its environs, such as the famous attractions in Muckross House and Ross Castle. However, the visitor who stays in the car will slip by woods containing Muckross Abbey and the Old Copper Mines at Ross Island, or Toureencormick battlefield on the shoulder of Mangerton, without ever catching sight of same. Not only does "Scenic Walks" take you to these places, usefully his book also contains interesting notes on the various sights, mixing history, geography, myth and geology where appropriate. Apart from the photographs, map and notes, the format of the book follows the popular style favoured by many writers, each walk starts with an overview setting out the length and duration, the difficulty and a brief note of the specific matters of interest.

The trails on the maps contain numbers which correspond with the paragraphs in the written analyses. These are clear and easy to follow, and like the notes on sights referred to above, very informative. Mr. Ryan clearly is not one for merely ticking off the miles, he stops to smell the roses along the way – the analysis of the flora and fauna reminds one of Kevin Corcoran’s guides. The book itself is light and suitable for use whilst walking. Importantly, it is priced at under €10.00, and accordingly within the budget of many who will spend a few days in Killarney and would like to get out and about for a few hours rambling. Perhaps with that very market in mind, there are walks which enable one sample some of Killarney’s famous methods of transport, a boat through the lakes, a jaunting car through the Gap of Dunloe or Muckross.

The book is not flawless (the photograph described as the Devil’s Punch Pool is surely a view from that area into the Horses Glen). I was somewhat surprised that the walk to Lough Nabroda underneath the wonderful rock formations at Benaunmore was omitted. However, that is a subjective call, and with 18 walks in the Killarney town, Muckross and Torc areas, and further afield around the base of the Reeks and Purple Mountain as well as to the summit of Mangerton, the author could easily contend that he has packed more than enough in this book. There are many fine books about walking in Kerry. This is an extremely good addition.

Conor Murphy (MV member)

This month.
Kudos to our contributors.

We welcome the following new members who enrolled this month. 2boots, aaronfarrell, alanlyttle, alanstapleton, AlexanderHoward, amcinroy, amdlon, And, andycallan, antonmamyko, Astrofizz01, a_walker, Ballyagran, beltany, benny_cake, bertashke, bjango, blaird, blexford, boache, brianf, brigidryan, cambogueno, carbar, carita, Carolinen, carolinerobinson, carraun, Cats112, Christopher13, clovis, cmckeon, cnocadoir, cobhwalker, concollins, connol22, curus_lulus, Cweed101, cwgatling, dalyl, damomc360, DavidBreda, davyd63, Debarra, declanmccarthy01, Deeper_Blue_00, derryos, dh, di22900, dmcbride, doctorborg, doddmarie, doirechoill, edmcardle, endam50, eoha, errigalo, FatimaKid, FinnCaffrey, fmazzotta, fmck, footrage, franka, FWheeldon, garrettd, gemmant, gerryk, gerryo, gerry_hill, gfmurphy101, Gide, gilliancollins, gorafferty, Graham-Forde, greidy1, grizzly_scounter, gsmiddy, hairymac, hanratty, helloingenious, Hillwalker70, JacksDaughter, jcock, jenfinn, jimc, jimmymac, jimnyland, JohnSheeran, karlquinn, Keeks, keith1, kfinnesatclear, Kielyja, kizhook, kkdamatic, knytha, laura7440, liamodonaill, LizzieMurray, llukass11, Lug032, Lutzi, magsligo, Marcie, Markdoc, Martin-Toye, marylongan, maryoscannail, Matt_Ryan, mgtmul, mickeysla, Mickmerc, mikeruss, momalley, mparkes, mpunch, msvalhalla, mujpost, Murphyj, Murpj, mylun, nansorb, nfpender, niall98, Nuala1, nualabannon, obsidionz, oharegreg, oliviamcg, patricks97, pcoakley, peterhurley0863, peteroregan, phil68, piotr, pmeldrum, Pookeen, ravit, raygray, razormamba75, rogmor, ronhog, Ruby, Ryan_mournes, sandytrilo, sarahgatley, SeanieD, sebz29a, sebz29ab, seneka12S, shay64, Simon-Glover, snowy393, SophieC, Sunday, swalsh1, tatari, tawalsh, terrimcgarry, thebourke, TomB, tomodub, tonyb, twoboots, vahanara, vigos, WildernessFit, wit444, wmmoyles, ymcenroe (170)

Our contributors to all threads this month: Bleck Cra (2), CaptainVertigo (11), Conor74 (2), Cweed101 (2), DesHoulihan (1), Dessie1 (3), EefaBee (1), FilHil (8), Geansai (1), Hilltop-Harrier (3), Moac (1), Mulciber (2), Pazapas (2), Peter Walker (2), PuterMan (1), Ryan_mournes (2), Simon-Glover (1), Tom Milligan (1), Trailtrekker (2), WildernessFit (2), ahendroff (2), aidand (1), corrynor (1), djacobs (1), dmcdevitt (1), fmck (3), gerrym (2), Communal summary entries (10), hbowman1 (1), jackill (1), joemountain (1), jop68 (1), kevin carroll (1), malonesean (1), march-fixer (18), martinvan (1), marzka (1), muzag (1), nkenealy (2), osullivanm (1), paddyhillsbagger (2), paulocon (1), sbender (2), shaunkelly (1), simon3 (23), sligobay (1), stendorado (1), taobear (1), thomas_g (10), travelbug (1), trekker (1), tyfan (1), volsung (1), wicklore (5), wwwalker (1)
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There were comments on the following summits Benbulbin, Binevenagh, Binn Bhán, Binn Shleibhe, Bothán, Brandon Peak, Bunmore, Caherbarnagh, Caherbarnagh NW Top, Camaderry Mountain, Carrigawaddra, Corrig Mountain, Croagh Patrick, Croghan Hill, Crohane SW Top, Cupidstown Hill, Glenbeg East, Hungry Hill, Inishturk, Killerry Mountain, Knockcraugh, Knocknabrone Hill, Knocknagowan, Knocknagree SE Top, Long Hill, Lugnagun, Maumfin, Nephin, Saggart Hill, Seahan, Seefin, Seefin E Top, Shanlieve, Slieve Alp, Slieve Bearnagh, Slieve Carr, Slieve Snaght, Slievecorragh, Slievemore, Table Mountain, Tievecrom, Tooreen, Tristia, Tully Mountain
and these tracks Baltinglass Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Benbeg, Breifne Ireland, Bennaunmore, Mangerton Ireland, Binn Bhreac, Twelve Bens Ireland, Brandon, Brandon Group Ireland, Carnanelly, Sperrin Mountains Ireland, Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Carrignabinnia, Galty Mountains Ireland, China, Gansu Sheng , China, Gansu Sheng , China, Hebei , Croagh Patrick Far East Top, Croagh Patrick Ireland, Croghan Kinsella, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Crohaun, Comeragh Mountains Ireland, Derryfanga, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Djouce, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Galtybeg, Galty Mountains Ireland, Hag's Tooth, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Knockmore, Achill/Corraun Ireland, Lobawn, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Nephin, North Mayo Ireland, North Mayo Ireland, Saggart Hill, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Scarr, Dublin/Wicklow Ireland, Skregmore, MacGillycuddy's Reeks Ireland, Slieve Alp, North Mayo Ireland tracks and these walks were created Black Hill ... Not like that ... like this!, Glendalough Butterfly

Thanks to all 1003 who have ever contributed summits or routes info and forums.

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Summary. MountainViews now has 5691 comments about 999 different hills & mountains out of the total in our current full list (1057). We need more comments, better comments and more balance for every summit as our rate for "data completion" now that the 150m summits have been added is currently around 49% There's plenty (58) of opportunities for you to be the first to comment on a summit. Listing summits in "Lists & Logs" (tick MV completion information) allows you to see what information we need to get more even coverage.


  • If you are contributing, please be careful to respect the interests of landowners. Suggest access routes well away from houses, gardens or that could conceivably impact farming activities. When walking, keep away from gardens or farm buildings. Use stiles or gates wherever possible. Never do anything that could allow animals to roam where the farmer did not intend. Ask permission where appropriate.
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    Report quads in national park area (in which they are banned). For Wicklow please phone the Duty Ranger: 087-9803899 or the office during office hours Telephone: +353-404-45800. Put these numbers in your phone, take regs etc. Let MV know of contact numbers for other areas.
  • If you have climbed some of the less well known places, we would appreciate a summit rating.We could use your help in making ratings for the unrated mountains which you have climbed, such as: Inis na Bró, Knockaghaleague, Bunmore, Knocknascollop NW Top, Cruach Leac Chonaill, Lettertrask, Coolsnaghtig, Cashloura, An Bheann Mhór, Cró Bheithe and some 11 others. and also GPS readings for summits.
  • If we can, let's make MV have more than one route up a summit so as to reduce the tendency for paths to appear. Your grid refs in comments for different starting points show up on MountainViews maps.
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