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Paps/Derrynasaggart Area

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Maximum height for area: 694 metres

Summits in area: 18

OS Map(s): 79, 85, 86 for all tops

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Caherbarnagh Mountain	Cork County
An Chathair Bhearnach A name in Irish	(Language)
(Ir. An Chathair Bhearnach [OSI], 'the gapped fort')
Height: 681 metres	OS 1/50k Mapsheet: 79 for top
Grid Ref: W19161 87175	Latitude: 52.031195 Longitude: -9.178595
ITM: 519128 587233	Prominence: 361m Isolation: 0.6km
See Máire MacNeill, 'The Festival of Lughnasa' (pp. 211-12) for details of the festive assembly which took place on Caherbarnagh on Latiaran Sunday in late July. Caherbarnagh is the third highest mountain in the Paps/Derrynasaggart area and the 135th highest in Ireland. Our data has reached 77% of the goal for this summit. (Details)

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Access via 'new' Duhallow Way

by shaunkelly 5 Aug 2011 I walked in this area on 16/07/11. In the light of Redtape's comment it appears the way I went may be the easiest to access this mountain. My map is OS79 second edition 2003 so there may be a newer more accurate map available. It appears the Duhallow Way has changed quite a bit since this map was printed seeminly because of the access issues mentioned by Redtape. The section of the DW shown between about 190886 (Point A) and 219993 (Point B) as far as I can make out is gone. There is now a sign from the road from about (no GPS!) 193892 (Point C). Parking here fro one car. The sign pointed us up a freshly mowed lawn type area alongside a bungalow. Then there is another sign alongside a fence directing walkers up the field. I wasn't happy to so blatantly cross someones fence so knocking at the bungalow we were told by the farmer that we "had his permission to cross his land" Having crossed his land we joined the DW at about 192886 (Point D). I would recommend that anyone using this route get the farmers permission.

We then walked past Lough Murtagh and ascended Caherbarnagh via Caherbarnagh NW Top (Glanaprehane) which is a pleasant walk with wonderful views to the North. We walked West after that to 143852 (Point E) and returned to the car along the road. It is worth noting that while I can't be sure, it did seem like the Western end of the DW is moved to the road.

Point A: W190 886	Point B: W219 993	Point C: W193 892
Point D: W192 886	Point E: W143 852	(turn area map On)

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Access Problems?

by redape99 2 Aug 2011 Went walking here on 31/7/11 but encountered a very angry local farmer on the way down from Stoukeen. First of all found that the track to Gortavehy Lake has a sign saying "No unauthorised access" so looked at the map and the track starting at 236 879 (Point F) up to Curracahill and Stoukeen looked promising so chose that way. After an hour and a half came across another sign on a gate right under the cairn on Stoukeen displaying "PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING, NO HILLWALKING". There's no way of seeing this sign until you're on top of it, without binoculars anyway even if it wasn't misty! This sign is also on both sides of the gate so it's unclear whether the Curracahill side is private or the summits or both. At first the farmer refused to let us back down to the car insisting we go back up the hill in the direction he'd seen us coming from. After saying I'd add a note to MV about the signs he eventually let us carry on. Met another local farmer at the car (this time much more ameniable) who told us a few sad tales of the big increase in the thefts in the area recently.

Point F: W236 879

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by patd 23 Aug 2011 Unfortunately- the below route now appears inaccessible without prior permission from landowners. See comment posted by Redape99 also.

A superb walk, with a great range to all views. I started out for Caherbarnagh from south of Ballydaly on the track to Gortavehy Lake,which is shown on the OS Map. Once up to the lake I followed the Duhallow way signs east and once 500m east of the lake I headed south climbing up to the ridge of the hill. (follow the rocky path up to the ridge). I chose this route to ease the climbing gradient! The surface conditions were very slippery coming towards the ridge. Once on the ridge I proceeded west for Caherbarnagh. From Caherbarnagh I back tracked westwards along the ridge to the Cairn shown on the OS map and made the descent from there down the gravel surface. Visibility wasn't great on the day but I could still make out the Dingle Peninsula and 'Reeks to the west and much brighter weather to the South! and into West Cork. I'd imagine views of Ballyhoura Mountains could be taken on a better day. Overall this took me 2:30hrs at a good pace and was c7km in length.

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Statement from MI re access.

by simon3 1 Dec 2011 Following the access comments of redape99 MV passed on details of the issue to Mountaineering Ireland for the purposes of keeping other hillwalking interests informed. MI investigated the issue and have issued a statement as below which is useful in that it specifies more exactly where the problem is.

The good news is that Caherbarnagh, Caherbarnagh NW and other neighbouring summits Curracahill and Ballyvouskill can all be reached without any known access difficulties.

Stoukeen ridge and Duhallow Way
Mountaineering Ireland has been advised that the owners of a mountain area south west of Millstreet are no longer allowing access to their land. The closure affects a large area to the east of the summit of Caherbarnagh, taking in Lough Gortavehy, Coomacheo, Stoukeen and the ridge to the south east of Stoukeen as far as the broad saddle south of Kippagh Lough. Mountaineering Ireland has met with the landowners involved, but unfortunately could not achieve a resolution to the issue at this time.
Walkers should also note that the Duhallow Way in the Gortavehy area has been re-routed and no longer follows the line that is marked on Sheet 79 from the Ordnance Survey’s Discovery Series mapping. This will be updated on the third edition of Sheet 79 which is due out at the end of 2011. Marker posts are in place along the revised route.

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by SDillmore 27 Feb 2005 Figures I wouldn't remember my camera on this gorgeous summit. Climbed up from Knocknagowan, a rather easy slog, basically a straight line except for having to steer east of a ravine. Lots of peat cutting, and very boggy terrain. Lucky that the ground was frozen. The views all around, as pdtempan remarked, are fantastic. We were fortunate to have high visibility, and saw the snow-covered rolling Mangerton and jagged, forbidding Reeks beckoning far to the west. Perhaps the reason this is climbed so little. Anyhow, after taking in the western view, Glenaprehane and the flatlands north, we headed at a SW bearing to a fork in the Glashanasharragh Stream (177 854 (Point G)). There are plenty of rocks to help passage, but the banks get very steep south of here. Continued SW over the peak at 448m (170 848 (Point H)) and to the small trailhead on the OSI map at 166 842 (Point I). This requires another stream crossing, and takes place over very boggy and uneven terrain. Wouldn't go this way again. Taking the trail south, we hit the road and went 900m east to the car at 173 838 (Point J).

Point G: W177 854	Point H: W170 848	Point I: W166 842
Point J: W173 838	(turn area map On)

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Picture: Caherbarnagh from Glanaprehane Expand pics.

by Lynchieboy 1 Feb 2008 A dark but beautiful day. Parked in a field supplied by a friendly farmer. He recommended that we leave it there with the keys as he might want to go to Baile Bhuirne for Porter. He seemed genuinely disappointed when we informed him that there was very little left. Left car at W195 892 (Point K) and went for Stoukeen. There is a stoney path which was helpful as the ground was quite wet. Lovely pull up here all the same. This mountain looks deceivingly easy. Its majesty is most apparent from Croohigs crossroads near where O Sullivan Beara and his men once camped out (Hence the reason for all the local O Suileabhains) or even up further towards Macroom. From the peak at Stoukeen its a lovely stroll across to Caherbarnagh and Glanaprehane. Not all the pictures came out as I am still learning to use my camera but views extended from the Reeks ridges to Musheramore and beyond.

Point K: W195 892

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