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wicklore
2015-09-03 18:39:50
Many, many issues (Part 3)
5. MountainViews disallows dissent? Ė what evidence for this? Who has been blocked? People can say pretty much what they want within reasonable rules of decency on MountainViews. Perhaps the problem is that they donít always get a string of responses supporting them or debating with them. Maybe people just disagree or donít care enough to respond. Thatís their right. We donít block dissenters. Some famous MountainViews dissenters spring to mind and they have an open door whenever they want to take another shot at us for the failings in our entirely voluntary effort. In fact we have a continuous open invitation for more members to get involved in the myriad of tasks and projects we are involved in. We need the help, and there is a lot of work to be done.

6. Walking guides: I think the only place to get the kind of route guide tamjk is looking for is in the many walking guides available in book form. They cover all major upland areas and describe routes in detail. They also provide a guide to what type of walk each route is, and whether it is suitable for beginners, experienced walkers only etc. Every one will have a warning that hillwalking is only to be undertaken by those who are able. The reality is that some mountains are simply beyond peopleís ability. I know, because many are beyond my ability unless I go with more experienced friends.

Tamjk, the uplands are not suitable for anyone who is not prepared and able. There is hazard and danger, and wonderful rewards for those who know what they are doing. Inexperienced walkers should not be up there. I heard before that 90% of call outs for Wicklow Mountain Rescue are for inexperienced Ďday trippersí. That speaks for itself Ė Wicklow has lots of detailed 1:25 000 maps available, and it doesnít prevent endless call outs for Mountain Rescue. The best maps in the world wonít help if you canít read them. Or wear runners and jeans. Or are surprised to find that some hills are very steep. Or that some mountains have cliffs. Or that you are not fit enough for the undertaking. Or that you are afraid of heights. Or that phone coverage is patchy or non-existent. I donít know how many people Iíve bailed out over the years on the mountains Ė the common thread among them being ĎI bit off more than I could chewí.

Now before the debate ranges too far away, can we go back to some statements already made, that need your clarification. Who in OSI told you we are not interested in their 1:25 000 mapping? Also why did you call the Devils Ladder a safe route?
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