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wicklore
2015-09-03 18:36:37
Many, many issues (Part 2)
Let’s see what others have to say about your various concerns/ suggestions. My own response to some of your points is as follows:

1. Yes OSI should provide better quality paper mapping with an accurate reflection of what is on the ground. Their 1:25 000 maps should cover all major upland areas and should also cease the practice of having maps split in the middle of major summits, so that two maps are needed. (Croagh Patrick being a prime example). We have made these suggestions to OSI about this in their consultation with us.

2. Safe routes – there is absolutely no such thing, and no one would or should ever say a route is safe. Even the well-established tourist/pilgrim route up Croagh Patrick is fraught with danger and results in countless injuries every year. However routes can be described as ‘easy’, moderate or ‘difficult’, or other descriptive forms that are designed to impart the level of fitness, expertise or challenge a route poses. I have followed well-worn paths on Errigal, Croagh Patrick, Carrauntoohil, Hell Fire Club (a low hill in Dublin), and a myriad of others and none are ‘safe’. Some might only require the ability to follow a Coillte track to the summit, but they all have hazards.

3. The Devils Ladder. Contrary to what tamjk says, The Devils Ladder is not a ‘safe’ or easy route and is actually a dangerous route, even for experienced walkers. It is considered a tourist route as it is heavily used and lies at the end of the magnificent Hags Glen. However it results in countless injuries every year as it is used by those unprepared folk who for some reason consider it ‘safe’. Summer time is a busy time for Mountain Rescue in the Hags Glen. Tamjk, I am surprised that you complain about those who ‘promote’ dangerous routes, yet you tell us in your post that The Devils Ladder a ‘safe’ route? I am astounded. I urge that only experienced hill walkers with a head for heights, narrow gullies, scrambling experience and manoeuvring on steep wet ground and rocks use it. The nearby zig-zags route provides a walking route with no scrambling/hands on rock, and is a better alternative for walkers. But even the zig zags require care as does any walking on high, steep, wet ground.

4. Boastful Bernardism –That’s a subjective view and if that’s what you feel about the site so be it. I have seen many members share the joy of their achievements here but I don’t recall many that I would consider boastful. They would swiftly be called to account and get short shrift from their fellow MountainViews members. (which does happen!) The ‘league table’ you refer to (Summitteers Hall of Fame) has 1812 members on it. It introduces friendly competition and a recognition of members achievements.
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ewen
ewen 4 hours ago.
Now living furth of Scotland and getting to know the Irish hills. If you come across a Scottish hill Walker with dodgy knees and walking sedately, stop and say hello.

  
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Knockroe: OMG - I forget to check the MV page!
Pepe 5 hours ago.
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Gortrumnagh: Drive or Walk
sandman a day ago.
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Ballynew: Coastal Hill
sandman a day ago.
Park at L6231659377 opposite a very modern designed house and follow the non tared track and as it turns right go straight up hill thru an old overgrown trail still used by some cattle on there ow...

  
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Murneen: Coastal Hill
sandman a day ago.
With views over Cleggan Harbour this small coastal hill has no access issues. Enter via the access road for the Cleggan Group Water Reservoir at L5989857914 and continue up past the compound and w...

  
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Streamstown East: Coastal Hill
sandman a day ago.
Parking at L6466853750 take the small farm track in by the side of the forest crossing a double gate which was padlocked hand rail the forest on your left and thru a second gate to the summit area...

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Bleantasour Mountain: A boggy but short ascent route
Collaborative entry Last edit by: simon3 22 hours ago.
Go to the forest entrance at S22452 09704. there is room here for a few cars.Walk down the forest track, crossing a ford and follow the track until you can see open ground.Walk south along the edg...

  
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A handy way up two western Monavulaghs.
simon3 23 hours ago.
Easy access to the ridge.Improved RouteUsing the hard won experience of others and new forest roads we found a relati... walk, Len: 6.5km, Climb: 263m, Area: Bleantasour Mountain, Comeragh Mountains

  
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Milk Hill: Carry on bagging
Collaborative entry Last edit by: simon3 22 hours ago.
Go to the forest entrance at S22452 09704. there is room here for a few cars.Walk down the forest track, crossing a ford and follow the track until you can see open ground.Walk uphill to the summi...

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dr_banuska
dr_banuska a day ago.
Tyrone based hiker who walks all over but especially in my locals, the Sperrins. Completed the County High Points in 2016 (after 8 years!). Enjoy longer trails as well e.g. did the Moyle Way (Co. ...

  
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Seefin: Fine day spoilt by Scramblers
ewen a day ago.
Started at the Coillte gate at 068145 where there is parking for 2 cars. I then followed the forest road around until the first turn off to the left. This takes you along to the fire break/path at...

  
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Local 97
marymac 2 days ago.
An abstract Artist, Charles Shaw, said "Real happiness consists in not what we actually accomplish, but what we think we accomplish." I moved house. So my Local 100 changed. The new list includes ...


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