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tamjk
2015-09-03 09:32:16
Mapping Safe Routes
Morning, Mr Walker.

I agree with you. It's not a responsibility of any state's Ordnance Survey Office to define safe mountaineering routes.
And in my message yesterday I never suggested that OSI per se act as the authority for the safety status of routes.
But rather that they include those routes that the appropriate state authority for such matters would so designate.
Since the authority here (Dept of Transport, Tourism & Sport) has decried responsibility in such matters to other equally evasive organizations, e.g. Mountaineering Ireland or the rescue service for the range in question, there are no routes for them to add to their maps.
As I have already said, OSI staff did seek guidance on this matter but could not identify any single authority or organization willing to offer such guidance. As such they did not proceed on their own authority to nominate any such routes. And I support their point of view in this.

As to a safe route. Let's take a common example - Carrauntuohill.
I think that the only generally safe route to the summit would be the Devil's Ladder.
It's well marked, not too vertiginous and the large boulders provide a number of (generally necessary to cover all ages) rests along the rise.
My only stipulation for this route would be that some protective headgear, e.g. a bike helmet, be worn against the risk of stones accidentally displaced by a party ahead falling dangerously on a party below them on the Ladder.
For sure I'd never advocate the Caher, Beenkeeragh, Heavenly Gates or even the Br O'Shea Gully routes for general day-trip climbing. I trust it goes without saying that the long Coimín na Péiste ridge route is unsuitable for general climbers.
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