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2013-11-12 21:44:55
Following the first half from CaptainVertigo
"The word “generally” in the rules is presumably there to mean: do this except when it is obviously stupid. What could be more obviously stupid than forcing relatively poor small farmers to expend thousands of euro they can’t afford, along with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, just to ruin walks and views and thereby damage tourism?
For walkers, the fencing causes problems where there were none before. There’s the problem of getting around or over fences though, in reality, an extra layer of absurdity is added by the fact that, in these exposed places, the fences tend to fall down anyway. More seriously, the fences create unnecessary tensions between walkers and farmers: once a mountain has been fenced farmers fear that they have become liable for insurance claims and walkers become “trespassers”.
This is a situation that calls for nothing more than common sense but common sense turns out to be vanishingly rare. In Northern Ireland, which operates under exactly the same EU rules, officials decided that there is no need to force hill farms to put fences up mountains. In the Republic, however, the Department of Agriculture has been withholding payments from farmers who don’t do it. This has devastating consequences: I’ve come across one case of a man who was inspected in 2011, found not to have put fences on the mountain and had three years’ payments totalling €90,000 withheld.
Farmers are rightly furious, so how do we solve the problem? By applying common sense? No, by appeasing the irate farmers with public money. In September, Minister for Agriculture Simon Coveney announced funding of “at least €1.5 million” for “the erection of certain types of sheep fencing in mountainous areas”. A farmer can get up 40 per cent of the cost, up to a maximum of €10,000. We can’t afford respite care for the parents of autistic children but we can spend “at least” €1.5 million putting barbed wire across the top of the Blue Stacks and Magillicuddy’s Reeks. Presumably when they all blow down, we’ll announce sheep fence refurbishment grants of at least the same again.
This is the kind of craziness you get when officials answer to nobody and Ministers unthinkingly obey the bureaucracy. The Minister could cut this mountain of madness tomorrow. Mr Coveney, tear down these fences."

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eflanaga an hour ago.
I came to hillwalking relatively late (2004) after being introduced to its pleasures on the remote island of St Helena by a South African friend who worked as an anaesthetist there, and it is now ...

Caha Mountains: Tooreennamna
Onzy a day ago.
Route taking in Tooreenamna, an outlier to the west of the Cummeenageera circuit and a highly rated hill.Shoulder peak... walk, Len: 4.5km, Climb: 439m, Area: Tooreennamna, Caha Mountains (Ireland) T

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Tooreennamna: False Summits abound
Onzy a day ago.
This summit, at least on the approach from Glenbeg Lough, is characterised by the number of false summits that emerge as you gain height.

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Mountaineering Ireland consults on mountains
simon3 2 days ago.
Mountaineering Ireland (MI) is attempting to build a consensus on what hillwalkers value in the Irish mountains. It is a very logical step prior to advocating on behalf of hillwalkers to first det...

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Tooreennamna: Orphaned Outlier of Cummeenageera
Onzy a day ago.
Tooreennamna lies just west of the Cummeengeera circuit above Ardgroom, As it it is tricky to include in that circuit, it is probably best included as a circuit of Glenbeg Lough or climbed by itse...

Lake District: Scafell and Scafell Pike
Onzy 2 days ago.
Route from Wasdale over Scafell Pike and Scafell, Ill Crag, Broad Crag and a couple of other peaks. Route includes 4 ... walk, Len: 12.8km, Climb: 1471m, Area: Lingmell, Lake District - Central & Wes

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Torc Mountain W Top: Big brother ....
hivisibility 5 days ago.
Here's a picture of Torc itself from Torc West Top. Approx 600m between the two summits.

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Barnahowna: Fine-weather photo
bryanmccabe 6 days ago.
Thought a fine-weather photo of Barnahowna summit was needed!

Castle Hill
Onzy 2 days ago.
Up and down Castle Hill. Essentially a duplicate of track 2048, but substantially shorter as I parked blocking a gate wi walk, Len: 4.8km, Climb: 398m, Area: Slieve Mish (Ireland)

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Maumtrasna North-East Top: Worth a visit!
Collaborative entry Last edit by: bryanmccabe 6 days ago.
Maumtrasna NE top, approximately 2km NE of Maumtrasna, is worth a visit in its own right. The most direct access is via the steep ridge up to nearby spot height 542. One possible starting point is...

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Cable Car to the Hellfire Club - 20/10
cave-dweller a week ago.
Hello, There is a meeting being held in the Yellow House Pub in Rathfarnham in Dublin 14 tomorrow night at 8 pm about some proposed "redevelopments" in and around the Hellfire Club/Montpelier Hill...

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Crossderry: Summit No 2 of a fine ridge walk.
hivisibility 6 days ago.
Here is another view of Crossderry taken from Mothillín. You can see the twin peaks at the summit area. The summit proper is the one on the right. Knocknabreeda in the background.Its pretty rugged...

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