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march-fixer
2012-12-09 16:27:51
Why? - Answers on a postcard(s) please!
Question: You are a walker, or even a hill-walker. What do you know about mountaineering? Come on ... surely you have an opinion? (Well, on mature reflection - why should you?)

Question: You are browsing the magazine racks. Would you pick a mountaineering magazine as reading material? (Why not?)

Question: You are amongst a group of mountaineers. They try to inspire and inform you about walking/hill-walking. How would you feel about it? (Teaching your granny to suck eggs?)

Walking, hill-walking and mountaineering, derive from the same source: getting out on terra firma (or not so firma!). In a simplistic way, you could say that as you move higher from walking the fields and valleys, you start hill-walking and where that becomes overly difficult, then you start mountaineering. While walkers may not have done any mountaineering, conversely, mountaineers most likely have done hill-walking at some stage.

The Difficulty: walking and mountaineering occupy totally different media spheres. True mountaineering is an exotic and thrilling activity. Conversely, while walking does not provide the same adrenaline rush, it is no less enjoyable and exhilarating.

So, why in the name of all that is sane and reasonable, should Mountaineering Ireland (MI) be the organisation developing a national culture for walking in Ireland? Why even bother to venture outside their main sphere of interest? How many oars are in the water now? Too many cooks spoiling the broth? Why should MI bother to represent the escapades of walkers in their august Mountain Log (ML) magazine. The sheer buzz of mountaineering achievement enthrals a totally different audience than does the report of a spell binding new walking circuit. Do not expect to read a walking report any time soon, not matter how many may be submitted! Is ML going to be the official mouthpiece for Orienteering groups as well? Why not?

Summing up - there is too great a dichotomy between mountaineering and walking/hill-walking to be represented in the same media sphere (ML) or indeed by the same organisation (MI). Nature always finds its own level or peer group. Walkers like to proceed at their leisure, converse amongst their peer groups and post their reports where there is a reasonable probability that their effort (literary at least) will be seen and even appreciated.

Home Exercise: List how many organisations, formal, informal, governmental, non-governmental, funded, non-funded, etc., are involved in outdoor pursuits and I guarantee that you will be amazed, just before you are truly shocked. Shocked ... because notwithstanding all this extensive activity, such a large resource of funds and effort as has been, and is being expended, it does not seem to be having anything like the desired effect. Disjointed is a term that comes readily to mind!

(Don't shoot the messenger ... it might be more productive to dispatch some of the many cooks instead?)
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Summit Summary
Doughruagh South Top: Twin of Doughruagh main top
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 a day ago.
Located behind Kylemore Abbey, it has been reported that access from the grounds is no longer allowed. It is possible to park in a small lay-by at L77637 58711 and walk approx 30m along the road t...

  
Summit Summary
Currywongaun: Rough and Rocky
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 a day ago.
Park off road in a small lay-by at L72134 59157 and ascend the spur in a roughly Easterly direction to the summit. Usually climbed en-route to its larger neighbor Doughraugh.

  
Summit Summary
Doughruagh: Rocky summit with access issues from Kylemore Abbey
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 a day ago.
Located behind Kylemore Abbey, it has been reported that access from the grounds is no longer allowed. It is possible to park in a small lay-by at L77637 58711 and walk approx 30m along the road t...

Summit Summary
Raghtin More: The smallest Inishowen Arderin
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 2 days ago.
The easiest approach is to park at Urrismenagh viewpoint carpark C317 443 and follow the track to its highest point. From here you can avoid Crockmain and carry on towards Raghtin More to the Nort...

  
Track
Forbidden Keadeen
CaptainVertigo 3 days ago.
Please DO NOT attempt to gain access to Keadeen from the road by following my route. The owner, who is a very decent ... walk, Len: 7.2km, Climb: 487m, Area: Keadeen Mountain, Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland

  
Summit Summary
Crockmain: An uninspiring summit with great views
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 2 days ago.
The easiest approach is to park at Urrismenagh viewpoint carpark C317 443 and follow the track to its highest point before heading north over heather to the summit. Alternatively from Mamore Gap c...

Track
Meentog South East Top
Onzy 3 days ago.
Route to Meentog SET from west. Parking is in a farmyard (with permission) and a helpful track leads up to around 540m walk, Len: 4.1km, Climb: 336m, Area: Glenbeigh Horseshoe (Ireland)

  
Summit Summary
Knocknanacree: Views to Slieve Mish and the Dingle Peninsula
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 2 days ago.
Summit can be approached from the West by parking near Minard Castle V556 992 and following a rough track uphill past a quarry and onto the summit ridge.A shorter steeper approach is possible from...

  
Summit Summary
Teeromoyle Mountain: A summit in the middle of a classic Horseshoe walk
Collaborative entry Last edit by: liz50 2 days ago.
This summit is usually accessed whilst walking the Glenbeigh Horseshoe. A shortened version taking in the 4 central 600m summits in the centre of the horseshoe Teeromoyle, Coomacarrea, Mullaghnara...

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Bruse Hill: Bruse
Nekarsulm 4 days ago.
Track up from the quarry is overgrown. I partially walked up a small stream, as it at least cuts its way through the whins. Climbing straight upwards, you will see places where some earlier climbe...

  
Track
Doolieve
caiomhin a week ago.
walk, Len: 3.5km, Climb: 48m, Area: Doolieve, South Cork (Ireland) Doolieve

  
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Irish Times - Post Mortem on Hillwalker
CaptainVertigo 5 days ago.
According to the Irish Times a postmortem examination is to be carried out on the remains of a man found during the search for a hillwalker in Connemara who went missing during a St Patrick’s day ...


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