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Bleck Cra
2012-09-19 21:40:38
INFESTED WATERS - POISONED MOUNTAINS
Kevin for all your coyness – I am glad you are back into this, because like myself, you are a zealot – and for what it is worth, I have endless time for people who believe completely and wholeheartedly in something.
We shall not ever agree though. I am sure wearily you dive back in amongst the sharks – and so do I.
First you write that the technical ability doesn’t exist to “fix” the hills without leaving them in a mess (I paraphrase of course).
Then Kevin if we can’t do it, we should leave it alone. Do you get a man along to fix your roof – who can’t? You do not.
You also write “the biggest problem we face is providing a sustainable track that fits in with the surroundings and isn’t an absolute eyesore.”
Yes – but it is implicit in what you write that it can’t be done. In the circumstances why would anyone just fire on with such work when they know it will be an eyesore – and so why would you be surprised many of us hate it. and you and your mates get it in the neck? This is not rocket science.
Also why are the sleepers “dreaded”? They are not dreaded by me if the alternative is ripping the thing out and filling it in with hardcore.
You write that you are willing to learn but you wax facetious. You are not or we would not now be having this conversation.
A couple of weeks back I met an outbound type of leader taking a swarm of kids into Mournes. We talked about the construction work ongoing and he closed with “will they never learn?”
No they will not but if anyone bothered to ask marchfixer (from all the detractors whom you snipe at) or any of the regular users before the diggers came in they just might. I am not accusing you Kevin but the whole thing lacks ….. manners – Oh and endless commonsense.
Lastly – and I am sure you are pleased to read that ….. the Belfast Hills Partnership used the noggin and put down – yup EEK – plastic matting.
I love it because it lets us across an otherwise impenetrable bog to view fabulous panoamas of Belfast. To do this there simply was no option.
For anyone to tell me that there was no other option on Binnian, the Fofanny River or the Glen River track than the awful things that now stand there, well …..
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