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Straight off, Capt.. by march-fixer   (Show all posts)
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2012-09-16 14:44:37
Re Keepin Ireland Clean
There seems to no end of views as to what constitutes '"an improvement" or "remedial action" to a mountain area/track. Some see it as making it safer and/or more accessible for all users while others see it as messing about with nature.

I am going to stick my neck out here with my possibly controversial view that a person should not enter areas which they are not capable of safely traversing. That is a Natural Law and it is a decision or value judgement that only they can answer honestly. There is no accounting for or alleviating stupidity.

If you want to "mess about" with things, then build a complete track to the summit or as scannerman mentions, someone might even wish to put in a cable car, so as not to interfere with the intervening landscape! That way everyone has safe and easy access and hopefully no one gets injured or lost?

Improving areas/tracks to the extent of putting in steps (except in very exceptional cases - with full consultation) is futile. Mountain Walking = rugged terrain walking = if you are not capable, then do not go there. There are so many other areas you can enjoy at your leisure and safety. Take the recent case of the lady who unfortunately injured her leg at Lower Lake Glendalough. How much more benign could the terrain there be and yet an injury was sustained? What more could be done in this area to avoid such a re-occurrence?

Improvements or remedial action to mountain areas/tracks should surely only be done to the extent of saving the area/track from further erosion - at ground level only. With all of our technical ability, surely it must be possible to stabilise the area/track without making it highly obvious that such action has been taken?
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Lake District: Scafell and Scafell Pike
Onzy 8 hours ago.
Route from Wasdale over Scafell Pike and Scafell, Ill Crag, Broad Crag and a couple of other peaks. Route includes 4 ... walk, Len: 12.8km, Climb: 1471m, Area: Lingmell, Lake District - Central & Wes

Forum: General
Mountaineering Ireland consults on mountains
simon3 11 hours ago.
Mountaineering Ireland (MI) is attempting to build a consensus on what hillwalkers value in the Irish mountains. It is a very logical step prior to advocating on behalf of hillwalkers to first det...

Castle Hill
Onzy 12 hours ago.
Up and down Castle Hill. Essentially a duplicate of track 2048, but substantially shorter as I parked blocking a gate wi walk, Len: 4.8km, Climb: 398m, Area: Slieve Mish (Ireland)

Caha Mountains: Tooreennamna
Onzy 13 hours ago.
Route taking in Tooreenamna, an outlier to the west of the Cummeenageera circuit and a highly rated hill. walk, Len: 4.5km, Climb: 439m, Area: Tooreennamna, Caha Mountains (Ireland) Too...

Hart Walk
GSheehy a day ago.
{First off, I wasn't with the lads. Just sharing the info.}What?s not to like reading about the trials and tribulation walk, Len: 115.7km, Climb: 3215m, Area: Dublin/Wicklow (Ireland) Cloghernagh,

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Barnahowna: Fine-weather photo
bryanmccabe 4 days ago.
Thought a fine-weather photo of Barnahowna summit was needed!

Ott Mountain to Slieve Meelmore
Aidy 5 days ago.
Started at the Ott/Blue Quarry car park on the Moyad Road, and took a route taking in six summits, going over Ott Mou... walk, Len: 10.9km, Climb: 730m, Area: Ott Mountain, Mourne Mountains (Ireland)

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Torc Mountain W Top: Big brother ....
hivisibility 3 days ago.
Here's a picture of Torc itself from Torc West Top. Approx 600m between the two summits.

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Maumtrasna North-East Top: Worth a visit!
Collaborative entry Last edit by: bryanmccabe 4 days ago.
Maumtrasna NE top, approximately 2km NE of Maumtrasna, is worth a visit in its own right. The most direct access is via the steep ridge up to nearby spot height 542. One possible starting point is...

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Crossderry: Summit No 2 of a fine ridge walk.
hivisibility 4 days ago.
Here is another view of Crossderry taken from Mothillín. You can see the twin peaks at the summit area. The summit proper is the one on the right. Knocknabreeda in the background.Its pretty rugged...

Glenbeigh to Galway's Bridge
GSheehy 5 days ago.
I?m putting this one up because it was a club walk and I was thinking about the other day. There aren?t too many clu walk, Len: 40.5km, Climb: 917m, Area: Glenbeigh Horseshoe (Ireland)

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Mothaillín: Fabulous views to the west from the summit.
hivisibility 5 days ago.
Fine view towards Broghnabinnia and Caher from Mothillín summit.

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