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simon3
2011-10-27 17:39:03
Re County Highpoints.
An interesting discussion indeed. It would seem reading kirerongribbon and others that there is more or less a consensus that the most interesting high feature in a county is the place that is highest. There seems less certainty regarding the name that should be applied to that place.

There is much to be learnt from GB in the general area of bagging for example in how to establish lists based on prominence, how to employ measuring systems to establish prominence etc. We are indebted to British volunteers for help received in the past and currently cooperating with various groups in Britain in various practical ways.

As Kieron says the discipline of bagging or summiteering is more popular in Britain. However it also has an extraordinary profusion of lists and definitions some of which are downright confusing. Some of the concepts in lists and nomenclature reflect historical roots which do not necessarily make sense here. For example there is even a website with a list of bagging lists, there are so many competing ideas. In a sense we are in a position to shape definitions and lists that make sense for Ireland since the discipline has so far less participants. MountainViews has done this in areas such as dual language support, the 62 areaname definitions, metrication and a family of lists that offer a consistent challenge to participants at different levels of interest.

There are two definitions for the place that's highest in a county. Logically there needs to be two terms. County Top seems to me to mean the highest Top in the county, because mountain top or hilltop usually means the highest point of a hill. County Highpoint surely is a contraction of County Highest Point and means exactly what it says: the highest point in the county regardless of whether it is a top.

For the last few years MountainViews has used the term County Highpoint (see Lists & Logs | Eight Lists | County ). I am glad to say that 59 MV users have already recorded doing at least half the County Highpoints. (59 out of the total of 1336 currently using MV to record their climbs) and that number is increasing quickly - see Community | Summiteers Hall of Fame.

The definition of the term Highpoint is, of course, slightly fluid however we believe the approach we have is reasonably logical. Certainly the way it is used in the US by the large and well organised Highpointers Club would be similar to MVs. I think that those of us interested in the development of the discipline in Ireland would help it best by reaching a consensus. So, if a new consensus is arrived at MountainViews will consider changing its usage.
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