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simon3
2007-04-23 13:26:05
Re: 400m Mountain List
Jaak:

You're exaggerating. Listen .. sea level is rising at 3cm / decade so the number of 100m summits will not be anything like 25,873 summits long before you get halfway and will be even further down before you're dead.

What's the value of a list anyway? Really it's a suggested agenda to visit some interesting places. Not a purgatorial pilgrimage or an end in itself. Looking at Ireland and what makes sense for lists I'd say the 3000 footers (914m) don't make an interesting list. There aren't any north or west of Wicklow.

The 600s are reasonably interesting but for some people there's too many. The trouble with the 600s is that many interesting summits aren't included (for example the only quartzite mountain in Wicklow, the Sugarloaf). But if you include the 500s you get too many for most people. I only know of one person who has done them all. And so it goes.

So MountainViews is moving in the following direction .. we have introduced various new lists. MountainViews can use its database and also the huge amount of information that as a social-networking site we have gathered for these new lists.
The 750m list is a straight height based list for people to try. Currently this includes 76 summits, reasonably well distributed around the island.

Then we have the 100 Nearest. It does what it says on the tin. The list is personalised for the position you have given yourself (in Settings). The advantages are that it minimises your travel and helps you get to know your own part of the world.

We've introduced a 100 Best. This is based on the thousands of ratings people have put in for summits. The advantage is that it will bring you to the most interesting places in Ireland according to MV users and that could be very useful. It turns out that many of the highly rated places are in Connemara interestingly enough - there's quite a high consensus between different raters incidentally. A disadvantage we are working to minimise is that as further ratings come in this list will change.

We've also got the 600, 500 and 400m lists. You can customise these if you are visiting an area and get a rough map showing where they are. Useful for planning or to fill your life if you retire at 45.

We've included the 914m or 3000ft for old time sake though it doesn't make much sense.

Reviewing the various lists published for Ireland you can see a whole lot of UK imports such as Hewitts etc. The classification systems which are mostly non-metric don't seem to me to be entirely appropriate except the relative hills type listing. This is where you provide a list based on relative height or prominence. The summit has to have a drop on all sides of a given limit, often 150m.
In due course MV will introduce a list like this for Ireland. It'll have the MV look of course - with ratings, comments, name origins, photos.

So I hope you aren't quite so depressed Jaak. Lismacaffrey Hill looks interesting.


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Forum: Suggestions
Addition of "All Irish features" list etc
simon3 an hour ago.
A new list and total has been added which shows All Irish features visited. So if you mark as visited any summit, coastal summit, coastal feature, island feature then this total will go up. You ca...

  
Summit Comment
Illanmaster: Watching Over.
sandman a day ago.
This hill watches over Illanmaster Island and although its summit is nothing of note its cliffs are fantastic. As described previously this can be part of a coastal walk or for direct accent park ...

  
Summit Comment
Corraduff Hill: Coastal Hill
sandman 2 days ago.
Corraduff Hill as seen from the Benwee Loop Walk.

Track
Mweelrea Mt via Ben Lugmore
marzka a day ago.
A very nice walk with amazing views and small bit of scrambling which can be avoided.Dificulty: Medium- ascending via... walk, Len: 13.4km, Climb: 1111m, Area: Ben Lugmore East Top, Mweelrea Mountain

  
Track
Bencorrbeg - Binn an Choire and Binn Dubh
marzka a day ago.
Very nice walk with a bit of scrambling.And this GPS track involve that mentioned part of scrambling - but if you want... walk, Len: 10.4km, Climb: 944m, Area: Bencorrbeg, Twelve Bens (Ireland) Benco

  
Summit Comment
Benwee NE Head: Coastal Hill
sandman 2 days ago.
It is easy to reach the area i took the photo from just a slight detour off the Benwee Loop Walk F8220244947 it is the next bit that the problem arises. Definitely an Ian Miller summit.

Track
Teermoyle and Been Hill
marzka a day ago.
Very nice walk with goregous views.Dificulty: Medium- a bit wet terrain, mostly grassy- some small part of walk on th... walk, Len: 13.2km, Climb: 843m, Area: Keamconneragh, Glenbeigh Horseshoe (Irel

  
Summit Comment
Doonvinalla W Top: Coastal Hill
sandman 2 days ago.
The Stags of Broad Haven just one of the fantastic photo opportunities from this summit which is easily accessed from the Benwee Loop Walk the easy option from the pier at Portacloy F8395844259.

  
Track
Mangerton via Stoompa and Horses Glen
marzka a day ago.
Lovely walk with stunning views.Dificulty: Medim- wet terrain as crossing the Owgariff river- very steepy descending w... walk, Len: 13.6km, Climb: 673m, Area: Stoompa, Mangerton (Ireland) Stoompa, M

Summit Comment
Doonvinalla E Top: Coastal Hill
sandman 3 days ago.
Easy access from the pier at Portacloy F8395844259 follow the Benwee Loop walk and branch off where appropriate . The photo shows views across towards Benwee Head in the background .

  
Track
Carrauntoohil via central guy and dawn via oshea-gully WINTER WALK
marzka a day ago.
This is a winter climb, therefore the winter equipment is needed and extra time should be added while planning that r... walk, Len: 10.6km, Climb: 779m, Area: Carrauntoohil, MacGillycuddy's Reeks (Ir

  
Summit Comment
Doonvinalla N Top: Coastal Hill
sandman 3 days ago.
Looking across to Doonvinalla N Top from E Top i decided it was above my pay grade to attempt the summit climb today . But to the right of the photo a route to the top seemingly exists so another ...


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