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2007-04-23 13:26:05
Re: 400m Mountain List

You're exaggerating. Listen .. sea level is rising at 3cm / decade so the number of 100m summits will not be anything like 25,873 summits long before you get halfway and will be even further down before you're dead.

What's the value of a list anyway? Really it's a suggested agenda to visit some interesting places. Not a purgatorial pilgrimage or an end in itself. Looking at Ireland and what makes sense for lists I'd say the 3000 footers (914m) don't make an interesting list. There aren't any north or west of Wicklow.

The 600s are reasonably interesting but for some people there's too many. The trouble with the 600s is that many interesting summits aren't included (for example the only quartzite mountain in Wicklow, the Sugarloaf). But if you include the 500s you get too many for most people. I only know of one person who has done them all. And so it goes.

So MountainViews is moving in the following direction .. we have introduced various new lists. MountainViews can use its database and also the huge amount of information that as a social-networking site we have gathered for these new lists.
The 750m list is a straight height based list for people to try. Currently this includes 76 summits, reasonably well distributed around the island.

Then we have the 100 Nearest. It does what it says on the tin. The list is personalised for the position you have given yourself (in Settings). The advantages are that it minimises your travel and helps you get to know your own part of the world.

We've introduced a 100 Best. This is based on the thousands of ratings people have put in for summits. The advantage is that it will bring you to the most interesting places in Ireland according to MV users and that could be very useful. It turns out that many of the highly rated places are in Connemara interestingly enough - there's quite a high consensus between different raters incidentally. A disadvantage we are working to minimise is that as further ratings come in this list will change.

We've also got the 600, 500 and 400m lists. You can customise these if you are visiting an area and get a rough map showing where they are. Useful for planning or to fill your life if you retire at 45.

We've included the 914m or 3000ft for old time sake though it doesn't make much sense.

Reviewing the various lists published for Ireland you can see a whole lot of UK imports such as Hewitts etc. The classification systems which are mostly non-metric don't seem to me to be entirely appropriate except the relative hills type listing. This is where you provide a list based on relative height or prominence. The summit has to have a drop on all sides of a given limit, often 150m.
In due course MV will introduce a list like this for Ireland. It'll have the MV look of course - with ratings, comments, name origins, photos.

So I hope you aren't quite so depressed Jaak. Lismacaffrey Hill looks interesting.

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Summit Comment
Mothaillín: Fabulous views to the west from the summit.
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
Fine view towards Broghnabinnia and Caher from Mothillín summit.

Ott Mountain to Slieve Meelmore
Aidy 15 hours ago.
Started at the Ott/Blue Quarry car park on the Moyad Road, and took a route taking in six summits, going over Ott Mou... walk, Len: 10.9km, Climb: 730m, Area: Ott Mountain, Mourne Mountains (Ireland)

Summit Comment
Mothaillín: Summit area as seen from Crossderry.
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
Mothillín summit from Crossderry.

Summit Comment
Crossderry: Towards Knocknabreeda and Stumoa Dúloigh
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
The view towards Knocknabreeda fro Crossderry summit. Stumpa Dúloigh in the background. Knocknabreeda summit is located over to the far left of the ridge.

Glenbeigh to Galway's Bridge
GSheehy a day ago.
I?m putting this one up because it was a club walk and I was thinking about the other day. There aren?t too many clu walk, Len: 40.5km, Climb: 917m, Area: Glenbeigh Horseshoe (Ireland)

Forum: General
Cable Car to the Hellfire Club - 20/10
cave-dweller 3 days ago.
Hello, There is a meeting being held in the Yellow House Pub in Rathfarnham in Dublin 14 tomorrow night at 8 pm about some proposed "redevelopments" in and around the Hellfire Club/Montpelier Hill...

Summit Comment
Crossderry: Summit looking East.
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
Summit of Crossderry with view back towards Mothillín.There are 2 similar heights at the summit area. The summit is the one nearest the Eastern Reeks.

Peak bagging in The Sperrins in autumn
peter1 2 days ago.
Again, the use of a mountain bike is highly recommended for this route, if you are a solo walker. I left my bike in a... walk, Len: 16.2km, Climb: 1048m, Area: Mullaghclogha, Sperrin Mountains (Irela

Summit Comment
Stumpa Dúloigh SE Top: Fine views to the East...
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
The view to Knocknabreeda, Crossderry and Mothillín as seen from the aooroach to Stúmpa Dúloigh SE Top. Torc in the centre with Mangerton rising over to the right.

Summit Comment
Knocknabreeda: View of Carrauntoohil from the summit.
hivisibility 15 hours ago.
Carrauntoohil from Knocknabreeda summit.

Forum: General
Quad bikers in the Mournes
mcrtchly 2 weeks ago.
Whilst out in the Mournes on Sunday 2nd Oct, at about 8.30am we were shocked to see a group of half a dozen quad bikers powering up the track from the Banns Road towards Lough Shannagh (below Doan...

Slieve Foye
Onzy 6 days ago.
Sunday route over Slieve Foye and along the ridge for a bit... walk, Len: 9.9km, Climb: 439m, Area: Slieve Foye, Cooley/Gullion (Ireland) Slie...

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